Yes, my uncle "Buss" Bilger was also very adept at dowsing and marked out a number of wells in his lifetime - including our own. Dad said just today that Buss would even "shiver" when he crossed over a good water supply. I was hoping that those on the list who knew of pow-wow practitioners in the region would help in the compilation of a list of names of folks involved. Randall Stover in Aaronsburg is one of the most prolific dowsers in the county. He is far advanced in years but is a very, very interesting gentleman with an extensive knowledge of such things. Justin At 08:05 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote: >I've hear of pow wow - I believe there are (or were) a number of folks in >the Spring Mills area who did it. I've heard that my grandmother would go >over there to see people (possibly relatives) about it. There was a woman >who worked at a department store where I worked as a kid who did it, but I >don't remember much else - I never saw it or anything. > >On dowsing - that's a really interesting subject. We were at a family >reunion one year, and my uncle mentioned dowsing - not for water but for >electrical lines and such. There was a metal pipe running under the parking >lot of the picnic area, and he showed us how he does it. Finding it unusual, >we asked a lot of questions, and he said he'd show us how. He said "some >have the power, some don't"... Many of us tried it, and about half were >able to get the brass rods to swing when walking over the pipe. I could, and >I tried it at home, looking for my utility lines before digging in fence >posts. I found them, but not being 100% confident called the 'call before >you dig' folks to have them mark the utilities. Pretty cool - I was right on >all of them. You hold the bent metal rods loosely, and walk slowly- the rods >start to swing on their own over the pipes and lines. After my experiences >with dowsing, I wouldn't be surprised if there were tools to use the same >way to find water. I think Hickory is often mentioned as the material to >use. > >Deb >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Justin Kirk Houser" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:19 PM >Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] longevity and pow wow > > > > Arline, > > > > I don't know if I would class it theologically in terms of > > 'Miracles.' Those who practice it generally associate it with a > > naturalistic or spiritual phenomenon, as with dowsing for water, > > etc. It has its roots in "folk culture" more than anything else. > > > > The early people here who believed in it and practiced it were > > generally adherents Lutheran and Reformed, and later of the > > Evangelical and United Brethren faiths, the traditionally German churches. > > > > Justin > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Father could get rid of warts, it was a phrase and a passage in the Bible. He refused to call it a Pow Wow. Also said the gift of use could be passed from male to female and from female to male, but would not wok for the person if passed to the same sex. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Kirk Houser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] pow wow and dowsing > Yes, my uncle "Buss" Bilger was also very adept at dowsing and marked > out a number of wells in his lifetime - including our own. Dad said > just today that Buss would even "shiver" when he crossed over a good > water supply. > > I was hoping that those on the list who knew of pow-wow practitioners > in the region would help in the compilation of a list of names of > folks involved. > > Randall Stover in Aaronsburg is one of the most prolific dowsers in > the county. He is far advanced in years but is a very, very > interesting gentleman with an extensive knowledge of such things. > > Justin > > At 08:05 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote: >>I've hear of pow wow - I believe there are (or were) a number of folks in >>the Spring Mills area who did it. I've heard that my grandmother would go >>over there to see people (possibly relatives) about it. There was a woman >>who worked at a department store where I worked as a kid who did it, but I >>don't remember much else - I never saw it or anything. >> >>On dowsing - that's a really interesting subject. We were at a family >>reunion one year, and my uncle mentioned dowsing - not for water but for >>electrical lines and such. There was a metal pipe running under the >>parking >>lot of the picnic area, and he showed us how he does it. Finding it >>unusual, >>we asked a lot of questions, and he said he'd show us how. He said "some >>have the power, some don't"... Many of us tried it, and about half were >>able to get the brass rods to swing when walking over the pipe. I could, >>and >>I tried it at home, looking for my utility lines before digging in fence >>posts. I found them, but not being 100% confident called the 'call before >>you dig' folks to have them mark the utilities. Pretty cool - I was right >>on >>all of them. You hold the bent metal rods loosely, and walk slowly- the >>rods >>start to swing on their own over the pipes and lines. After my experiences >>with dowsing, I wouldn't be surprised if there were tools to use the same >>way to find water. I think Hickory is often mentioned as the material to >>use. >> >>Deb >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Justin Kirk Houser" <[email protected]> >>To: <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:19 PM >>Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] longevity and pow wow >> >> >> > Arline, >> > >> > I don't know if I would class it theologically in terms of >> > 'Miracles.' Those who practice it generally associate it with a >> > naturalistic or spiritual phenomenon, as with dowsing for water, >> > etc. It has its roots in "folk culture" more than anything else. >> > >> > The early people here who believed in it and practiced it were >> > generally adherents Lutheran and Reformed, and later of the >> > Evangelical and United Brethren faiths, the traditionally German >> > churches. >> > >> > Justin >> > >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dave, My Mother told me that same story and she always hoped my grandfather would pass it on to her. He didn't! I think it went with him to the grave. Arline Dave Wallace wrote: >My Father could get rid of warts, it was a phrase and a passage in the >Bible. He refused to call it a Pow Wow. Also said the gift of use could be >passed from male to female and from female to male, but would not wok for >the person if passed to the same sex. >Dave >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Justin Kirk Houser" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 9:07 PM >Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] pow wow and dowsing > > > > >>Yes, my uncle "Buss" Bilger was also very adept at dowsing and marked >>out a number of wells in his lifetime - including our own. Dad said >>just today that Buss would even "shiver" when he crossed over a good >>water supply. >> >>I was hoping that those on the list who knew of pow-wow practitioners >>in the region would help in the compilation of a list of names of >>folks involved. >> >>Randall Stover in Aaronsburg is one of the most prolific dowsers in >>the county. He is far advanced in years but is a very, very >>interesting gentleman with an extensive knowledge of such things. >> >>Justin >> >>At 08:05 PM 1/27/2007, you wrote: >> >> >>>I've hear of pow wow - I believe there are (or were) a number of folks in >>>the Spring Mills area who did it. I've heard that my grandmother would go >>>over there to see people (possibly relatives) about it. There was a woman >>>who worked at a department store where I worked as a kid who did it, but I >>>don't remember much else - I never saw it or anything. >>> >>>On dowsing - that's a really interesting subject. We were at a family >>>reunion one year, and my uncle mentioned dowsing - not for water but for >>>electrical lines and such. There was a metal pipe running under the >>>parking >>>lot of the picnic area, and he showed us how he does it. Finding it >>>unusual, >>>we asked a lot of questions, and he said he'd show us how. He said "some >>>have the power, some don't"... Many of us tried it, and about half were >>>able to get the brass rods to swing when walking over the pipe. I could, >>>and >>>I tried it at home, looking for my utility lines before digging in fence >>>posts. I found them, but not being 100% confident called the 'call before >>>you dig' folks to have them mark the utilities. Pretty cool - I was right >>>on >>>all of them. You hold the bent metal rods loosely, and walk slowly- the >>>rods >>>start to swing on their own over the pipes and lines. After my experiences >>>with dowsing, I wouldn't be surprised if there were tools to use the same >>>way to find water. I think Hickory is often mentioned as the material to >>>use. >>> >>>Deb >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Justin Kirk Houser" <[email protected]> >>>To: <[email protected]> >>>Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 6:19 PM >>>Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] longevity and pow wow >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Arline, >>>> >>>>I don't know if I would class it theologically in terms of >>>>'Miracles.' Those who practice it generally associate it with a >>>>naturalistic or spiritual phenomenon, as with dowsing for water, >>>>etc. It has its roots in "folk culture" more than anything else. >>>> >>>>The early people here who believed in it and practiced it were >>>>generally adherents Lutheran and Reformed, and later of the >>>>Evangelical and United Brethren faiths, the traditionally German >>>>churches. >>>> >>>>Justin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >