As I've exhausted all leads and have practically worn out my welcome on a couple of other lists (!), am seeking this lists' help in determining the parentage of my great grandmother, Alzada ROSENKRANS (various spellings do apply!). Here is what I've got on her, her husband and children... 1. Ralph4 MILLER, Sr. (Emory G.3, David C.2, (David?) Christian1) was born 02/09/1877 "of" Paradise, Clearfield Co., PA, and died 11/20/1940 in Clearfield, Clearfield Co., PA. He married Alzada ROSENCRANS 10/23/1895 in Clearfield, Clearfield Co., PA by Rev L.M. Brady. She was born 09/13/1877 "of" Lawrence Twp., Clearfield Co., PA, and died 02/09/1942 in on her farm on "Guinea Hill", Clearfield Co., PA. More About Ralph MILLER, SR.: Religion: Lutheran Residence: farm located on Guinea Hill, outside of Clearfield, Clearfield Co., PA More About Alzada ROSENCRANS: Burial: 02/12/1942, Crown Crest Cemetery, Clearfield Co., PA Cause of Death: Cerebral Hemorrhage Marriage Notes for Ralph MILLER and Alzada ROSENCRANS: According to the Application for Marriage License, they both were *of* Lawrence Township., Clearfield Co., PA, but does not state exactly where they were born. ============= William LeRoy Erhard (now deceased) submitted information to the LDS web site, showing Alzadea's name as "Belinda Alzadea Rosencraus", but that is incorrect as her marriage application/license shows her name was Alzadea. However, there are 2 places on this document that spell her last name "Rosencrans" and "Rosenkrans". There is another document that shows her last name was "Rosenkrans" and that is on her daughter Berva Miller's marriage license to Ernest Erhard. ============= I have reason to believe the name of the minister that performed the marriage was Lyons Mussina Brady, pastor of West Side Methodist Church, Clearfield, PA from Mar. 1893 to Mar.1898. SOURCE: Clearfield County Miscellaneous Items (http://www.geocities.com/dancenshout/clearfieldcountymisc.html) Children of Ralph MILLER and Alzada ROSENCRANS are: i. Berva Eleanor5 MILLER, b. 10/06/1896, Lawrence Township, Clearfield Co., PA; d. 11/06/1961, Trout Run, Lycoming Co., PA; m. (2) Ernest Edward Erhard, Sr.1, 07/16/1919, Portland, Chataqua Co., NY; b. 04/24/1897, New Millport, Clearfield, PA; d. 12/17/1947, Chicago, Cook, IL; m. (3) Bruce "Slim" STINESPRING, Aft. 1927; b. 05/02/1901; d. 02/1979, Lycoming, PA. More About Ernest Edward Erhard, Sr.: Burial: Oak Hill Cemetery, Curwensville, Clearfield Co., PA Cause of Death: black lung disease Occupation: Embalmer at the time of his marriage to Berva Miller ii. Jesse Emery MILLER, b. 03/29/1899, Clearfield, Clearfield Co., PA; d. 03/09/1941; m. Irene Poole; b. Abt. 1901. iii. Agnes Armita MILLER, b. 11/20/1901, Clearfield, Clearfield Co., PA; d. 03/1943; m. Arthur Gerold NELSON; b. 08/31/1899; d. 09/1977. iv. Blaine MILLER, b. 12/16/1902; d. 04/1981. v. Lloyd Edward MILLER, b. 04/18/1904, Clearfield Co., PA; d. 10/20/1941; m. Lena; b. Abt. 1904. vi. Elizabeth MILLER, b. Abt. 1905; m. Leonard; b. Abt. 1905. vii. Ethel Levada MILLER, b. 04/23/1907, Clearfield Co., PA; d. 02/25/1975, Morrisdale, Clearfield Co., PA; m. Fred PELTON, Abt. 1927; b. 02/19/1909, Morrisdale, Clearfield Co., PA; d. 07/19/1962. viii. Florence E. MILLER, b. 10/26/1909, Clearfield, Clearfield Co., PA; d. 06/19/1945; m. "Byke" THOMPSON; b. Abt. 1905. ix. Helen MILLER, b. Abt. 1911; m. Gary HAWKINS; b. Abt. 1910. x. (James) Ralph MILLER, Jr., b. Abt. 1913; m. Sarah LAZEAR; b. Abt. 1913. xi. Roy MILLER, b. Abt. 1915; m. Irene; b. Abt. 1915. xii. Alzada "Toots" MILLER, b. Abt. 1917; m. Robert CLARK; b. Abt. 1910. I have looked for Alzada on the 1880 census to no avail and of course, she was already married by the time the 1900 census rolled around. It is not known if she had siblings, or if "Alzada" is her 1st name or middle name. As my folks and I lived a great distance from PA, I never really knew these relatives and only met them once -- at my grandmother Berva's funeral in 1961. As I was a child at the time, I vaguely remember one of Berva's sisters -- my great Aunt Ethel -- as she and her husband had 13 children as to me, an only child, that was amazing! Anyway, if you have any information regarding Alzada, I'd appreciate it if you would share it with me. Thanks in advance for reading this rather long posting... Best regards, Jacquelyn Erhard Bean jebean@ccape.net