Good evening folks, especially Justin. The Halderman side of my family lived in Centre County in the 1st half of the 1800's. My ggggrandfather Joseph Halderman moved to Rockland Twp/Venango County and is listed there in the 1850 US Census. In the Ancestry copy he is listed at the bottom of page 18/34 of that census. Just above him (next farm) is his son Samuel & wife. Top of the next page 19/34 lists some very young children, presumably living in the same household as Joseph, age 64. The names do not fit Halderman family patterns. If one goes to page 15/34, same census book, the TOP of the page starts with 3 Halderman young adult males Jacob, Daniel, and Benjamin who are the sons of Joseph, plus a grandson of Joseph's, George W Stover, and a female resident Catharine 18 yrs. old. All living in the household of an unrelated family listed at bottom of page 14. If one would swap the pages indicated as 15 and 19 (by Ancestry) the family and neighborhood naming patterns make much more sense. I contend that someone, somewhere, sometime swapped these pages. Assuming that, the real household of Joseph Halderman consists of him, wife, the three named sons, one grandson (Stover) (probably by daughter Susannah who died in 1847), and the young woman Catharine Rose(?). The reason I place a question after Rose is that the image on line is unclear. The Ancestry index calls her by Rose. I have been searching for years for a relative named Catharine Rife. Question of the day is: "does anyone out there have access to a clearer copy of that census page or other Rockland/Venango records of the names in that household?" I know this is not strictly Centre County stuff, but Halderman researchers in Centre County are probably interested anyway. Thanks, Robert Grover