http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ As I transcribe from the book: 'Landowners in Ireland 1876' [Out of copyright, but local Library may have] These records were compiled to replace 'lost census' in the 1860's and 1870's - submitted to the Crown in 1876 / Owners of an acre or more - [Hoping some records exist of those owners under an acre/and a list of renters somewhere out there] For now a winter project in Cold SW VA that began w/my search of my Byrnes-Burns/O'Neil[l]s with two unrelated lines Oneils/Oneal / Ireland to Quebec to VT - ca 1850's - Maternal Grand parents - My Mom's Irish ancestry. Records central to PA as many came to the Coal Mines. If you have a 'we bit O' Irish Ur genes' it pays to look around above site These counties are done: U don't need the county name to srch as great srch engine home page [url above] Click on County - then 'Census substitutes' for the finished documents. When U SRCH the letter M - they are primarily split for size - check all. ARMAGH CAVAN CLARE CORK CORK/City DUBLIN DUBLIN/City FERMANAGH GALWAY GALWAY/Town KERRY KILDARE LEITRIM LIMERICK LIMERICK/City LONDONDERRY LOUTH MAYO ROSCOMMON TIPPERARY TYRONE WICKLOW ******************************************************* Mimi Taylor -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2468 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Hey, I wanted to thank everyone who sent me suggestions and did some research on my behalf.  I got MANY responses to my initial inquiry.  Thank you so much to everyone who responded.   There were several people who said that they had found the Revolutionary War papers for Absalom Timms and offered to send them to me.  I appreciate the offer.  But I do have them already-- I also found them at Heritage Quest.  (By the way, if you didn't know, Heritage Quest has made available the Revolutionary War pension files free of charge.  Check them out!)   Thanks again everyone!   Brian

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SKBarrus Surnames: Reed Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/80.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am interested in this family. I have an ancestor, Aquilla Reed from Juniata County who had a brother, David, in Centre County. Thanks! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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I made a very quick check of some things I have here. Aldrich's History of Clearfield County (1887), at page 76-77 records the proceedings of the first session of court held in Clearfield County after it was detached from Centre County. This was in Dec. 1822. A true bill was presented by the grand jury against Absalom Timms for keeping a tippling house. A nolle prosequi was entered. This was the only reference I could find to him in Aldrich's History or Row's 1859 History of Clearfield Co. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:38 PM, Chris Staats <cstaats@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > Brian - > > I'm not sure if you have access to the pension file you referenced, but it > is on Footnote.com (subscription required to view the documents). I took a > quick read through the papers: on 29 Nov 1820, at age 61, he resided in > Bradford Twp, Clearfield County, PA. At that time he had (get this) a "wife > aged 27 years, nine children, of whom but three reside with me, aged eleven, > seven and two years respectively." The filings were handled through Centre > County, which according to the file, handled the judicial matters of > Clearfield County at that time. The initial claim in 1818 was filed in > Armaugh Twp, Mifflin County. > > Absalom also shows up on the list of 1835 PA Pensioners, so assuming this > to be the same Absalom Timms, he would have died sometime after 1835, > although it doesn't list a county, so I don't know if he was still in > Clearfield county at that time or not. > > This is all I had time to check - hopefully it helps focus your search > some. > > Chris Staats > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Brian, We will be glad to help direct you if we can. Where was he living in the 1820 and 1830 censuses? Tax records may help. We can direct you to the appropriate resources if you can give us a few more details. Justin On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Brian <rhinehartroots@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello. I am new to this list, and I am hoping that someone here may be > able to help. I am researching who I believe to be one of my ancestors who > lived in Pennsylvania. > > His name was Absalom Timms, and he was born about 1760. After serving in > the Revolutionary War, he moved to Pennsylvania. I don't know exactly when > he died, but I'm guessing it was sometime around 1830. I know it was after > 1820, because he filed a pension application then. I didn't find him in the > 1840 census, so it was sometime in that 20 year time period. > > What I am hoping to find is a will or estate record that lists his > children. The problem is, I don't know where he died either. He bounced > around a lot between several different counties in PA. > > I would like to be able to order the LDS film that might have his papers, > but I don't know when or where they were filed. Is there an index available > that might have him listed? If so, could someone tell me if he shows up (or > anyone with that last name) in the index? I'm not looking for someone to > necessarily track down his will, but I am hoping for some clue as to when > and where to look. An index would help with that. > > Could someone help me out? > > Thanks so much! > > Brian > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Brian - I'm not sure if you have access to the pension file you referenced, but it is on Footnote.com (subscription required to view the documents). I took a quick read through the papers: on 29 Nov 1820, at age 61, he resided in Bradford Twp, Clearfield County, PA. At that time he had (get this) a "wife aged 27 years, nine children, of whom but three reside with me, aged eleven, seven and two years respectively." The filings were handled through Centre County, which according to the file, handled the judicial matters of Clearfield County at that time. The initial claim in 1818 was filed in Armaugh Twp, Mifflin County. Absalom also shows up on the list of 1835 PA Pensioners, so assuming this to be the same Absalom Timms, he would have died sometime after 1835, although it doesn't list a county, so I don't know if he was still in Clearfield county at that time or not. This is all I had time to check - hopefully it helps focus your search some. Chris Staats

"Memories of the Great Depression" A panel discussion with folks who experienced it. Several members of our Society, some folks from the Centre County Historical Society and some Foxdale residents will share their memories. From the "Blue Skies" that Ella Fitzgerald sang of in 1928 to Amos & Andy, Groucho Marx, Greta Garbo and Rudy Vallee, the nation moved to a crash and depression that affected almost all nations in the world. Join us to learn what our parents and grandparents may have experienced through the memories of those who experienced it. Thursday, November 5, 2009 7:30 p.m. Foxdale Village Auditorium 500 E. Marylyn Avenue State College, PA At 7:00pm just prior to the monthly program, the CCGS is offering Tips for Climbing Your Brick Wall CCGS Members will share their expertise - let us know your brick wall problem and someone will try to help! Contact Nancy Lee Stover<mailto:nstover@gotmc.net?subject=Centre%20Co.%20Genealogical%20Society> in advance of the meeting if you have a specific question to be addressed. Cindy Lorenzo Centre County Genealogical Society 814 353-0355 cxl1@psu.edu<mailto:cxl1@psu.edu>

Hello.  I am new to this list, and I am hoping that someone here may be able to help.  I am researching who I believe to be one of my ancestors who lived in Pennsylvania.     His name was Absalom Timms, and he was born about 1760.  After serving in the Revolutionary War, he moved to Pennsylvania.  I don't know exactly when he died, but I'm guessing it was sometime around 1830.  I know it was after 1820, because he filed a pension application then.  I didn't find him in the 1840 census, so it was sometime in that 20 year time period.    What I am hoping to find is a will or estate record that lists his children.  The problem is, I don't know where he died either.  He bounced around a lot between several different counties in PA.    I would like to be able to order the LDS film that might have his papers, but I don't know when or where they were filed.  Is there an index available that might have him listed?  If so, could someone tell me if he shows up (or anyone with that last name) in the index?  I'm not looking for someone to necessarily track down his will, but I am hoping for some clue as to when and where to look.  An index would help with that.   Could someone help me out?   Thanks so much!   Brian

-----Original Message----- From: rhiannon@centrefurnace.org [mailto:rhiannon@centrefurnace.org] On Behalf Of Centre County Historical Society Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:52 AM To: info@centrecountyhistory.org Subject: Reminder: Railroad Lecture "The Big Fill" - Wednesday at 7:00 p.m. THE BIG FILL: EMIGH'S GAP WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2009 at 7:00 p.m. http://centrecountyhistory.org/eventsexhibits/bigfill.html Please join us for a special presentation by "King of the Hobos" Luther Gette. The Big Fill is not a mass grave; it is Centre County's own Horseshoe Curve located up the escarpment of the Allegheny Front to 2046-foot Emigh's Gap. Using a power point presentation that includes numerous photos, Luther Gette will tell the story of the many wrecks that occurred on or near the Big Fill. A song about the Irish laborers on the T&C and a poem about the Big Fill itself will round out the talk. Rhiannon McClintock Program Coordinator Centre County Historical Society Centre Furnace Mansion 1001 East College Avenue State College, PA 16801 814.234.4779 http://www.centrecountyhistory.org ************************************************************************************ The Centre County Historical Society respects your privacy and will never sell or share your personal information to any third parties or provide you with any unsolicited message or information. If you no longer wish to receive electronic updates from the Centre County Historical Society, please reply to this email with the subject "REMOVE" and we will unsubscribe you from our mailing list.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ebock Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1880.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wish I had read your posting a few months ago. We were traveling through Centre County and went to the Egg Hill Cemetery. Some of my ancestors, I think, are buried there. John and Susannah Strohm and John, their son. I have pictures of their stones, but I could have taken pictures or all the stones because it is a very small cemetery. We also took pictures of the church in its disrepair. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jirish15 Surnames: Hennigh, Musser Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1880.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I was reading your reply about Egg Hill Cemetery. My great great great grandmother was Barbara Anna Hennigh married last name Musser is buried there with her two children. HOw are you related to Hennigh family? I have been working on Hennigh family tree for few years but I am searching for lost cousins who might be related to Hennigh lineage. Thank you Jennifer (Boone) Roberts Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: julieam52 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1844.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm searching for Frank Sylvestor Moss, Born 1871 in Indiana, Died 1907 in St. Louis, Mo. Death records say he was Widowed. Also that parents were from KY. Possible father to Frank S. Moss, born Nebraska 1901 (grandfather to my husband. Thanks, J. Moss Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

how big is it, Justin? perhaps I can do it. I'm busy, but could put time into it, if you don't require anything really fancy. I've transcribed a book and indexed several others. I type faster now than when I did them so it might be something I could finish relatively quickly, though it does depend on how many tombstones are there and how you want it done. I would ask for a look-up or two in return, since I'm in Oregon and cannot travel. regards, Cornelia

Hi Sara, Thanks for asking the question because this has led us all to this source of records for German immigrants from 1785 to 1831 which may prove to be invaluable. As to Centre County, I don't know of any such records that were kept separately. We have several records of Slave Births that were kept from 1803-1820 and are available on the County website, having been digitized, but not of indentured servants. Some of these indenture contracts may have been recorded in the county miscellaneous docket, or perhaps even in the deed books, which are on file in the Recorder of Deeds office and can be viewed for a fee online. These records, however, like all Centre County records, do not begin until 1800-1801 (the county was organized Feb. 13, 1800). I have seen contracts for children to take care of their parents in their old age recorded in these books. The old newspapers also sometimes contain records of servants running away, which may be somewhat helpful. Tax records that early usually do not indicate if a person was a servant to someone else. In Lancaster County I know that the Trinity Lutheran Church records in Lancaster City have lists of people who took communion there in the 1700s and these lists often mention that someone was an indentured servant, and whom they were serving at the time, which is a great resource. Justin On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:28 PM, eric sanders-buell <mseevirginia@cox.net>wrote: > Justin, > A researcher at the National Archives suggested I start investigating > redemptioner records in order to pin-point my German immigrant ancestor's > arrival in the U.S. This led me to a book by Farley Grubb entitled "German > Immigrant Servant Contracts Registered at the Port of Philadelphia, > 1817-1831. In the book he mentions that after the revolution the > Pennsylvania German Society convinced the State of Penna to keep a register > of all German immigrant contracts. Apparently there are 3 book (A spans > 1785-1804, Book B spans 1805-Nov. 4, 1817 and book C which spans Nov. 5, > 1817 - 1831). I was able to order a micro film of this document from the > LDS library. The Researcher at the National Archives also suggested I ask > at the local level if records were kept in the county courthouses. > Subsequent to my email to the list I got an answer from the Adams County, > PA (my ancestor worked off his ship's passage in Adams County to a Mr. > Deardorf beginning in 1795) Historical Society saying thy did not think that > Adams County, PA had any such records. > > I was secretly hoping that you Justin would know just where to find these > types of records squirreled away somewhere in Centre County! > > Sara > > > On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Justin Houser wrote: > > I have never heard of such a record and, in fact, would be interested to > know where the records that you speak of are kept. > > Justin > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM, eric sanders-buell <mseevirginia@cox.net>wrote: > >> Does anyone know if Centre County and other PA counties kept records >> in the local courthouses of German Immigrant servant contracts? I >> understand the Pennsylvania German Society persuaded the state of PA >> to register all German Redemptioners after 1784 upon arrival at the >> port Philadelphia but wondered if the buyer and redemptioner had to >> also register at a local level. >> >> Sara Sanders-Buell >> Centre County lines: Twitmyer, Haner, Evans, Reese, Gephardt >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > >

Justin, A researcher at the National Archives suggested I start investigating redemptioner records in order to pin-point my German immigrant ancestor's arrival in the U.S. This led me to a book by Farley Grubb entitled "German Immigrant Servant Contracts Registered at the Port of Philadelphia, 1817-1831. In the book he mentions that after the revolution the Pennsylvania German Society convinced the State of Penna to keep a register of all German immigrant contracts. Apparently there are 3 book (A spans 1785-1804, Book B spans 1805-Nov. 4, 1817 and book C which spans Nov. 5, 1817 - 1831). I was able to order a micro film of this document from the LDS library. The Researcher at the National Archives also suggested I ask at the local level if records were kept in the county courthouses. Subsequent to my email to the list I got an answer from the Adams County, PA (my ancestor worked off his ship's passage in Adams County to a Mr. Deardorf beginning in 1795) Historical Society saying thy did not think that Adams County, PA had any such records. I was secretly hoping that you Justin would know just where to find these types of records squirreled away somewhere in Centre County! Sara On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Justin Houser wrote: > I have never heard of such a record and, in fact, would be > interested to know where the records that you speak of are kept. > > Justin > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM, eric sanders-buell <mseevirginia@cox.net > > wrote: > Does anyone know if Centre County and other PA counties kept records > in the local courthouses of German Immigrant servant contracts? I > understand the Pennsylvania German Society persuaded the state of PA > to register all German Redemptioners after 1784 upon arrival at the > port Philadelphia but wondered if the buyer and redemptioner had to > also register at a local level. > > Sara Sanders-Buell > Centre County lines: Twitmyer, Haner, Evans, Reese, Gephardt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

This is very interesting. I never heard of any from the colonial days but, then again, I didn't know about these, so who knows? Perhaps someone can enlighten us about that. On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:07 PM, geniebugged <geniebugged@cox.net> wrote: > Sounds like a lot packed into few [146] pages - > > > Title German immigrant servant contracts registered at the port of > Philadelphia, 1817-1831 > Author Farley Ward Grubb > Publisher Genealogical Pub. Co., 1994 > ISBN 0806314168, 9780806314167 > Length 146 pages > Subjects German Americans > Horror stories > Indentured servants > Juvenile Fiction / General > Juvenile Fiction / Horror & Ghost Stories > Reference / Genealogy > Ships > > ©1994-2009 Mimi Taylor > Generation Gap Specialist™ > for HALL-PRATT-TAYLOR + PIERCE > "From Pierce-Arrows 2 Straight Arrows"© > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pacentre-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacentre-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Justin Houser > Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:12 AM > To: eric sanders-buell > Cc: PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] German immigrant servant quetion > > I have never heard of such a record and, in fact, would be interested to > know where the records that you speak of are kept. > > Justin > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM, eric sanders-buell <mseevirginia@cox.net > >wrote: > > > Does anyone know if Centre County and other PA counties kept records > > in the local courthouses of German Immigrant servant contracts? I > > understand the Pennsylvania German Society persuaded the state of PA > > to register all German Redemptioners after 1784 upon arrival at the > > port Philadelphia but wondered if the buyer and redemptioner had to > > also register at a local level. > > > > Sara Sanders-Buell > > Centre County lines: Twitmyer, Haner, Evans, Reese, Gephardt > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. > We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. > SPAMfighter has removed 2458 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Professional version does not have this message > >

Sounds like a lot packed into few [146] pages - Title German immigrant servant contracts registered at the port of Philadelphia, 1817-1831 Author Farley Ward Grubb Publisher Genealogical Pub. Co., 1994 ISBN 0806314168, 9780806314167 Length 146 pages Subjects German Americans Horror stories Indentured servants Juvenile Fiction / General Juvenile Fiction / Horror & Ghost Stories Reference / Genealogy Ships ©1994-2009 Mimi Taylor Generation Gap Specialist™ for HALL-PRATT-TAYLOR + PIERCE "From Pierce-Arrows 2 Straight Arrows"© -----Original Message----- From: pacentre-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacentre-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Justin Houser Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:12 AM To: eric sanders-buell Cc: PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] German immigrant servant quetion I have never heard of such a record and, in fact, would be interested to know where the records that you speak of are kept. Justin On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM, eric sanders-buell <mseevirginia@cox.net>wrote: > Does anyone know if Centre County and other PA counties kept records > in the local courthouses of German Immigrant servant contracts? I > understand the Pennsylvania German Society persuaded the state of PA > to register all German Redemptioners after 1784 upon arrival at the > port Philadelphia but wondered if the buyer and redemptioner had to > also register at a local level. > > Sara Sanders-Buell > Centre County lines: Twitmyer, Haner, Evans, Reese, Gephardt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2458 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Googled books - Farley Ward Grubb - Babes in Bondage? Debt Shifting by German ... He is the author of German Immigrant Servant Contracts Registered at the Port of Philadelphia, 1817–1831 (Baltimore, 1994); "The Circulating Medium of ... muse.jhu.edu/journals/journal_of_interdisciplinary_history/v037/37.1grubb_f.html St. Louis Public Library - Passenger lists German immigrant servant contracts registered at the port of Philadelphia Mimi Taylor -----Original Message----- From: pacentre-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pacentre-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Justin Houser Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 8:12 AM To: eric sanders-buell Cc: PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] German immigrant servant quetion I have never heard of such a record and, in fact, would be interested to know where the records that you speak of are kept. Justin On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM, eric sanders-buell <mseevirginia@cox.net>wrote: > Does anyone know if Centre County and other PA counties kept records > in the local courthouses of German Immigrant servant contracts? I > understand the Pennsylvania German Society persuaded the state of PA > to register all German Redemptioners after 1784 upon arrival at the > port Philadelphia but wondered if the buyer and redemptioner had to > also register at a local level. > > Sara Sanders-Buell > Centre County lines: Twitmyer, Haner, Evans, Reese, Gephardt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2458 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Maybe a reference to "Apprenticeship" records - some states have these or it may be noted in some census - Mimi Taylor I have never heard of such a record and, in fact, would be interested to know where the records that you speak of are kept. Justin On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM, eric sanders-buell <mseevirginia@cox.net>wrote: > Does anyone know if Centre County and other PA counties kept records > in the local courthouses of German Immigrant servant contracts? I > understand the Pennsylvania German Society persuaded the state of PA > to register all German Redemptioners after 1784 upon arrival at the > port Philadelphia but wondered if the buyer and redemptioner had to > also register at a local level. > > Sara Sanders-Buell > Centre County lines: Twitmyer, Haner, Evans, Reese, Gephardt > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 2458 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message