I have nothing concrete to offer, Fred, but I think the Dershems originally came from Union County. Just a recollection. On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:30 PM, <HoutsRFred@aol.com> wrote: > Can anyone tell me anything further about this name (or names)? > > Centre Co. Mar. records show -- > Barbara Deschemier - m. 21 Nov 1839 Adam Waltenberger (misspelled in mar. > index as Walterberger) > This was Adam Waltenberger's 2nd mar. His 1st mar. was to Anna Maria > "Polly" Rishel (1789-1838). > > Per Amber Rishel Keene's book on the RISHEL Family (p 13), Anna Maria was > the dau. of Martin Luther and Catherine (Derscherman) Rishel. > > I'm wondering if these surnames (Deschemier / Derscherman) are corruptions > of something else. I cannot find any other Centre County Families that > they would seem to fit into. Do any of you have any clues or factual > knowledge for me on these people? > > There are other Dershem marriages in Centre Co., but none preceding the > mid 20th century. > > There are also Derschems buried in the St. John's (Union) Cem, at Farmers > Mills, Gregg Township, Centre Co., near the Waltenbergers. It seems > likely these are kin, but I'd like proof (or "strong clues"). > > Can anyone help? > > Fred Houts, Minn. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone tell me anything further about this name (or names)? Centre Co. Mar. records show -- Barbara Deschemier - m. 21 Nov 1839 Adam Waltenberger (misspelled in mar. index as Walterberger) This was Adam Waltenberger's 2nd mar. His 1st mar. was to Anna Maria "Polly" Rishel (1789-1838). Per Amber Rishel Keene's book on the RISHEL Family (p 13), Anna Maria was the dau. of Martin Luther and Catherine (Derscherman) Rishel. I'm wondering if these surnames (Deschemier / Derscherman) are corruptions of something else. I cannot find any other Centre County Families that they would seem to fit into. Do any of you have any clues or factual knowledge for me on these people? There are other Dershem marriages in Centre Co., but none preceding the mid 20th century. There are also Derschems buried in the St. John's (Union) Cem, at Farmers Mills, Gregg Township, Centre Co., near the Waltenbergers. It seems likely these are kin, but I'd like proof (or "strong clues"). Can anyone help? Fred Houts, Minn.

There has been a change in the hours that the Pennsylvania Room in Bellefonte will be open according to a recently posted sign. The hours are 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Monday through Friday, and it will be closed on Saturdays. It will reopen for Saturday hours on September 11, the Saturday after Labor Day. Ellen

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: suerenkert Surnames: Stover Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1868.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I believe I have information on Lewis Harper Stover. It is in my older computer which I don't have access to at the moment. I'll try to remember to look it up when I can. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: otterwatcher Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1868.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm also trying to find some relatives from the Haines Township. I'm looking for the parents of Lewis Harper Stover, I think it is Thomas Wolf Stover, but have no historical evidence of that. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gummybear54 Surnames: Packer, Confer, Dow, Haines, Linnes Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1683.4.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Jesse P. PACKER was born ABT 1799 in , Chester County, Pennsylvania, and died 9 Sep 1874 in , Centre County, Pennsylvania. He was the son of 44. Jesse PACKER and 45. Catharine WILLIAMS. 23. Sarah SWISHER was born ABT 1807 GER, and died 2 Dec 1884 in , Centre County, Pennsylvania. She was the daughter of 46. Joseph SWISHER and 47. Elizabeth LINNES. Children of Sarah SWISHER and Jesse P. PACKER are: i. Michael PACKER was born Jul 1823. ii. Joseph PACKER was born 25 Nov 1826. iii. Nancy PACKER was born 11 Aug 1828. She married James P. HAINES, son of John HAINES and Jane PACKER. He was born ABT 1829. iv. John PACKER was born 16 Aug 1831. v. Catherine PACKER was born 29 Aug 1834. She married James M. PACKER 25 Sep 1852, son of Jehu PACKER and Sarah DOW. He was born 2 Jan 1824 in Marsh Creek, Curtin Twp., Clinton County, Pennsylvania, and died 27 Mar 1900 in Howard Twp., Centre County, Pennsylvania. vi. Roland PACKER was born 27 Jun 1837, and died 15 Jun 1851. 11. vii. Charity Ann PACKER was born 18 Aug 1840 in Howard Twp., Centre County, Pennsylvania, and died 26 Nov 1914 in Boggs Twp., Centre County, Pennsylvania. She married Ezekiel CONFER 8 Dec 1859 in Howard Twp., Centre County, Pennsylvania, son of Philip CONFER III and Margaret WANTS. He was born 30 Jun 1839 in Howard Twp., Centre County, Pennsylvania, and died 15 Aug 1915 in Boggs Twp., Centre County, Pennsylvania. viii. Jane PACKER was born 30 Jul 1843. ix. Susan T. PACKER was born 8 Aug 1846. She married Ira PACKER. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bmartha Surnames: Classification: obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/3242/mb.ashx Message Board Post: NIAGARA FALLS - Mary J. Czerniak of Niagara Falls, NY, passed away on Tuesday, June 15, 2010. She was born in Philipsburg, Pennsylvania, where she attended local schools and was the daughter of the late George and Mary (Bartko) Slipko. On November 22, 1951 she married her late husband, Edward Czerniak, at Saint Mary's Ukrainian Roman Catholic Church. She worked for Carborundum for 15 years and was a former member of Holy Trinity Roman Catholic Church. Mary enjoyed cooking, baking, gardening, and listening to Polka music.She is survived by her daughter, Laurene M. Czerniak of Niagara Falls, NY; her sisters-in-law, Anne (late Theodore) Slipko, Sr., Ann (late Stanley) Chervinsky, Natalie (late Casimer) Warszawski, all of Niagara Falls, NY; many nieces, nephews, great-nieces and great-nephews. Besides her parents and husband, she was predeceased by her brothers, George (late Mary) Slipko, Joseph (late Helen) Slipko, Alexander Slipko, Theodore Slipko, Sr., and Nicholas Slipko; an! d her sister, Veronica (George) McKedy; and her sister-in-law, Jessie (late Al) Copia. Friends may call Thursday, June 17th from 2-4 and 7-9 PM at ZAJAC FUNERAL HOME, INC., 319-24th Street, cor. of Welch Avenue, Niagara Falls, NY where funeral services will begin 9:30 AM Friday, followed by a Mass of Christian Burial at 10 AM at Divine Mercy Parish, 24th and Niagara Street, with Reverend Jacek Mazur officiating. Burial at Holy Trinity Cemetery Lewiston, NY. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Cornelia, I don't remember seeing separate Administrator's Bond books as I have other places, but you could check directly with either the PA Room (paroom@centrecountylibrary.org) or the Register of Wills (row@co.centre.pa.us). I checked the Family History Catalog to see if they had microfilmed any, and they have not. The PA Room does, however, hold all of Centre County's original probate packets. Most of the packets I have copied include the administrator's bond, but not all. These packets are indexed in a card catalog at the PA Room. I don't believe they charge to look up a name for you - just for copies, but you would have to ask to be sure. I know that doesn't directly answer the question, but I hope it at least points you in the right direction! Chris Staats ________________________________ From: "fenenga@connpoint.net" <fenenga@connpoint.net> To: pacentre@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:28:52 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] question do administration bonds for the period of 1845-1850 exist for Centre Co.? are they indexed, and does someone have the index for a look-up? Cornelia

do administration bonds for the period of 1845-1850 exist for Centre Co.? are they indexed, and does someone have the index for a look-up? Cornelia

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kimbersplace4320 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1804.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Centre County Historical Society has a website, and can also be reached through US Genweb I think. Google centre co, pa genealogy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 87mountaingirl Surnames: Poorman, White Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1804.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Where do you find contact info/addresses for Centre Co. Historical Society and church records?? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Good morning Cora, Thank you Cora for volunteering to pick up the award at Contentental Congress in July. As to sending the postage bill to our Chapter Treasurer for any of this fascicle, I really do not wish to burn our fragile chapter finances with this matter, which I feel can be spent on better projects. I have once again learned a valuable lesson about the political nature of DAR, and will be more careful in the future . I understand that Marianne Hughes is probably a volunteer and not paid for you work, but that doesn't account for the unprofessional way she handled her position or her treatment of me or my possession. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: PACENTRE@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 12:53:15 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Centre County Birth Records This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dtgardner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1804.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply. I have since moved on from the time I placed that query. Don Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dtgardner Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1804.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply. I have since moved on from the time I placed that query. Don Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kimbersplace4320 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1683.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, I am a descendent of a different branch of the Swisher family. I do know there is more than one family of Swishers. My question is about your Isaac. Can you tell me his dob, wife etc? I'd like to try to link him to my Swishers and maybe I can be of some help in return. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Kimbersplace4320 Surnames: Poorman, Treaster, Stover, Weaver, Shank, Womer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/1804.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This part of Pennsylvania did not have formal birth records until much later. There is the possibility that he may turn up in church records though. Centre Co. has a really good genealogy society, and fairly complete church records. I would think they could help you. Good luck Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have some info on Geo Wash Smith and Ada Royer Smith. Dave dwallace@kcnet.org

Quick note----I will reply next week, am going away for a few days..... Elizabeth ============================================ On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:49 AM, Justin Houser <jkhouser84@gmail.com> wrote: > Elizabeth, > > You should contact the Centre County Library in Bellefonte, > paroom@centrecountylibrary.org, and have them do a search of the obituary > index. Please let us know the results. > > Also, what is the full, exact text of the article that you have? > > Justin > > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:29 AM, elizabeth <newintr@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sue......I searched online for an 1890 PA mortality schedule and did not >> find any, but I appreciate the suggestion. >> >> Justin......I do not know what newspaper the article was in nor the twp, >> borough, or even if it happened in Centre Co. The clipping was just part of >> a family file with nothing but the date on it. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> Elizabeth >> ================================================= >> >> >> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Justin Houser <jkhouser84@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> In which newspaper did this appear? In which township or borough did the >>> death occur? >>> >>> For your other question I would recommend contacting the York County >>> Historical Society. >>> >>> Justin >>> >>> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:32 PM, elizabeth <newintr@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I am seeking some advice as to where to look for my ancestor. >>>> >>>> According to his tombstone, my ancestor, Martin ZEIGLER (ZIEGLER, >>>> ZEGLER, >>>> etc) was born 1778-1779 and from census records, that he was born in PA. >>>> The >>>> earliest record I have of him is in Latimore Twp, Adams Co, PA. in 1807. >>>> I >>>> know that Adams Co came from York co in 1800. >>>> >>>> He migrated to Newport, Oliver Twp, Perry Co, PA about 1820-1830 and >>>> died >>>> there. Many years ago someone in my family had found a mention of my >>>> ancestor's grandson somewhere in a Centre Co newspaper article (I have >>>> their >>>> notes) but I have no further information. >>>> >>>> The article they found was very brief and just stated that a son of >>>> Solomon >>>> Zeigler and his wife (Harriet McGarvey) died at three weeks of age. The >>>> date >>>> of the newspaper was Aug 19, 1889. It said his name was Mark and that he >>>> was >>>> a twin. (Solomon was a grandson of my ancestor Martin mentioned above. >>>> Solomon's father was also named Martin.) >>>> >>>> I would LOVE to find out more about these twins!!! >>>> >>>> Where was Mark buried? What happened to the other twin?? Would the death >>>> of >>>> a stillborn or infant that died prior to this Mark be reported in the >>>> same >>>> newspaper?? Neither of these twins appear in any census records. >>>> >>>> But I am wondering why this article would be found in Centre County if >>>> they >>>> lived in Perry Co??? >>>> >>>> Where would an infant who died at 3 weeks old be buried?? He is not in >>>> Newport where the mother is buried. (The father, Solomon still remains a >>>> mystery to me but he had migrated to Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA about >>>> 1900 >>>> after he and Harriet divorced.) >>>> >>>> Can anyone shed some light on why they would be mentioned in Centre Co? >>>> >>>> Where would be the best place to search records for a situation like the >>>> death of the twins in 1889? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Can anyone tell me the best place to go to search records for the 1700's >>>> for >>>> the area of York Co that became Latimore Twp? >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Elizabeth >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >> >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: andy4539 Surnames: brooks Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.centre/3241.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks for your quick reply. You gave me the answer I was looking for, that Gertrude A. Brooks is not the same one I was looking for. I don't know how Elsie came about, but there seems to me some mixup when the 1910 census was translated for ancestry. Elsie is not with the family of T. Cloyd and Gertrude. Don't know what happened, but it's not a first. I've run into it before. Thanks again. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I think you've mis-read the census page. I just looked at it and find Elsie Cummings, as a sister in home of Harry M. and Sadie Cummings. The household of J. Cloyd Brooks is further up the same page but does not include a dau. (or sister) named Elsie Cummings. Fred H., Minn.

Elizabeth, You should contact the Centre County Library in Bellefonte, paroom@centrecountylibrary.org, and have them do a search of the obituary index. Please let us know the results. Also, what is the full, exact text of the article that you have? Justin On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:29 AM, elizabeth <newintr@gmail.com> wrote: > Sue......I searched online for an 1890 PA mortality schedule and did not > find any, but I appreciate the suggestion. > > Justin......I do not know what newspaper the article was in nor the twp, > borough, or even if it happened in Centre Co. The clipping was just part of > a family file with nothing but the date on it. > > > > Thank you, > Elizabeth > ================================================= > > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Justin Houser <jkhouser84@gmail.com>wrote: > >> In which newspaper did this appear? In which township or borough did the >> death occur? >> >> For your other question I would recommend contacting the York County >> Historical Society. >> >> Justin >> >> On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:32 PM, elizabeth <newintr@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am seeking some advice as to where to look for my ancestor. >>> >>> According to his tombstone, my ancestor, Martin ZEIGLER (ZIEGLER, ZEGLER, >>> etc) was born 1778-1779 and from census records, that he was born in PA. >>> The >>> earliest record I have of him is in Latimore Twp, Adams Co, PA. in 1807. >>> I >>> know that Adams Co came from York co in 1800. >>> >>> He migrated to Newport, Oliver Twp, Perry Co, PA about 1820-1830 and died >>> there. Many years ago someone in my family had found a mention of my >>> ancestor's grandson somewhere in a Centre Co newspaper article (I have >>> their >>> notes) but I have no further information. >>> >>> The article they found was very brief and just stated that a son of >>> Solomon >>> Zeigler and his wife (Harriet McGarvey) died at three weeks of age. The >>> date >>> of the newspaper was Aug 19, 1889. It said his name was Mark and that he >>> was >>> a twin. (Solomon was a grandson of my ancestor Martin mentioned above. >>> Solomon's father was also named Martin.) >>> >>> I would LOVE to find out more about these twins!!! >>> >>> Where was Mark buried? What happened to the other twin?? Would the death >>> of >>> a stillborn or infant that died prior to this Mark be reported in the >>> same >>> newspaper?? Neither of these twins appear in any census records. >>> >>> But I am wondering why this article would be found in Centre County if >>> they >>> lived in Perry Co??? >>> >>> Where would an infant who died at 3 weeks old be buried?? He is not in >>> Newport where the mother is buried. (The father, Solomon still remains a >>> mystery to me but he had migrated to Harrisburg, Dauphin Co, PA about >>> 1900 >>> after he and Harriet divorced.) >>> >>> Can anyone shed some light on why they would be mentioned in Centre Co? >>> >>> Where would be the best place to search records for a situation like the >>> death of the twins in 1889? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Can anyone tell me the best place to go to search records for the 1700's >>> for >>> the area of York Co that became Latimore Twp? >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Elizabeth >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> PACENTRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >