FYI, anyone researching DILLEN,DILLON, or DILLAN in either Clearfield or Centre counties: The 1850 census index does not list all of the Dillen/Dillon/Dillans who lived in these counties. Having just finished searching all of Clearfield and part of Centre for 1850 I wanted to pass along those I found: Clearfield, 379 Beccaria - George and Eliza and children, John, Jesse, George and Hannah " " " - John and Hannah and children, Elizabeth, Margaret, Rebecca, George, Sarah, John, Clearfield, 404 Morris - George R. and Catherine and children, Eliza, Sarah, James, Miles, Austin, Emeline Centre, 247 Huston - Hays and Catherine and children, Hannah, Susan, Elizabeth, Frances, and Mary J. " " " - John, no wife, and children, Susannah and James A. " , 269 Patton - James and Mary and children, Stanford,John,Wilson, Levina, Eliza, Benner, Mary, James The Beccaria Twp. Dillens were born in Ireland, the others all in PA. Hope this is helpful. Nancy

The following item is available on E-Bay. I believe the Pennsylvania 7th Cavalry (Civil War) was primarily made up of men from Clinton & Centre Counties, including some who settled in Union County. 1911 7th Pa Cavalry Reunion Ribbon Item # 1008969033 You are bidding on a beautiful original reunion ribbon from the 1911 reunion of 7th Pennsylvania Cavalry held at Williamsport, Penna. This ribbon is offered in memory of the men, women, and children who lost their lives on September 11th and to the "Heros" who gave their lives to save others. All proceeds go to honor them and to help their family's. Thank You This is an Auction for America listing. eBay will forward the winning bidder's payment to the The September 11th Fund. Ends Sep-29-01 16:22:16 PDT First bid $10.00

Corneilia Warner was asking for info on the surname, Wyrough in Germany and Alsace, France, also John Weihrauch. Then he mentions Jacob Wyrouck, b. 1832 in Bellefonte, Centre County, Pa. This is just a long shot, but maybe something to consider. I wonder if you ever thought to check , "Alsace Twp. Berks Co. Pa." My g. grandmother, Sarah, was b. 1815, Alsace Twp. Berks Co. Pa , d/o John & Elizabeth (Rapp) Haberacker. She married, 1834, in the Lutheran Reformed Church, to James Kennelly. They lived in Gregg Twp, a few miles south of Bellefonte, Centre Co. Pa. They had 8 children, later moving to Mill Hall, Clinton Co. Pa. in the 1840's. Hope this may be a helpful lead. Dorothy Cote

Found the following site on the USGenWeb "Daily Uploads". Hope it helps. Marybeth Corrigall http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/centre/cemeteries/blackoakcem.txt

when I asked for a church look up, I forgot to mention which faith. they were Catholic.

can someone check church records for Bellefonte in 1831/32 for this family, please? also, does anyone have access to state-wide indexes for naturalizations? or intentions? I couldn't find them naturalized in Blair county, where they eventually moved to (there by or before 1849), so wonder if they were naturalized in Centre or Cambria. or somewhere else. thanks for any help. John WEIHRAUCH Birth: in of Alsace,France Marriage 1 Mary Children Caroline WYROUGH b: 1814 in ,Germany Magdelene WYROUGH b: MAY 1816 in Alsace,France Michael WYROUGH b: 23 MAR 1823 in Alsace, Germany Francis John WYRUCK b: 27 APR 1826 France/Germany Jacob WYROUCK b: 23 SEP 1832 in Bellefonte,Centre,Pennsylvania Francis is my great grandfather.

Friends, All of us have been absolutely engulfed with grief over the tragedies of the past week in New York City, Washington, D.C., and rural SW Pennsylvania. We here in Minnesota have even learned that it has affected one other Centre Countian among us here -- a prominent figure on our Twin Cities sports scene. The following is from the sports section of today's (9/20) Minneapolis STAR-TRIBUNE: "The Twins lost 6-2 on Wednesday night to Detroit, further hindering their playoff chances even before Cleveland can come to town for a big weekend series. "The Twins failed to hit knuckle-baller Steve Sparks, missed out on the few scoring chances they had, committed a baserunning blunder and didn't look like a team that had beaten Detroit 12 of 14 times this season coming into the game. Now the Twins are 7 games behind Cleveland. "And none of it mattered afterwards. "Several players and coaches went over to Eric Milton's clubhouse stall to try to console the lefthander. Milton had just revealed to the media that his thoughts were with an old friend and high school teammate from Bellefonte (Pa.) High who was a victim of last week's terrorist attack at the Pentagon. " 'I had a high school classmate of mine who's among the presumed dead, or not accounted for, in the Pentagon [attack],' Milton said. 'So that's all I think about. I played high school basketball with him, and baseball with him growing up. He was one of my good friends and I graduated with him from high school.' "Milton sighed and put a hand to his forehead, and reporters respectfully walked away. "His friend, Jonas Panik, a 26-year-old Navy lieutenant, was confirmed dead on Tuesday. "A few players said they had been unaware of what Milton was going through. "Brian Buchanan, Milton's friend since their days in the Yankees organization, walked over, sat down next to Milton and patted him on the back. Doug Mientkiewicz sat down on the other side of him. The Twins clubhouse already had been quiet because of the loss [meaning 'the game with Detroit,' not Panik's death]. Now, players eager to leave quickly to rest up for today's noon game, remained to express concern for their teammate. " 'It kind of puts things in perspective,' one player said. "Moments before Milton mentioned his friend, he was asked about trying to catch-Cleveland in the A.L. Central. An athlete's focus and concentration levels are expected to be at full-throttle, especially in important games during September. "While Milton hit 97 miles per hour on the radar gun, the fact he was willing to start under the circumstances was a bigger accomplishment. " 'It's hard to think about being in a playoff race right now,' Milton (14-6) said. 'I know my head is not in the game. Sitting on the bench, I try to think about the game, but my thoughts are somewhere else. And it's tough to concentrate. And with the layoff, it's tough to get back into it.' "A home run by Bobby Higginson -- his first since July 19 -- and successive doubles by Tony Clark and Shane Halter gave the Tigers a 2-0 lead in the first inning. Milton gave up two runs in the third and was replaced after the 5th inning and 82 pitches, so he can start on Sunday against Cleveland on 3 days' rest. " 'Eric left a few balls up in the zone,' Twins manager Tom Kelly said. 'And they didn't miss them.' "Jacque Jones homered in the bottom of the third to make the score 4-1. Otherwise, Sparks (11-9) shut down the Twins with his knuckleball, a pitch Kelly said he thinks moves more in domed stadiums because of the air pressure. "After the game, players initially talked about trying to hit the fluttering knuckler and trying to catch Cleveland, which lowered its magic number to clinch the division to 10. "But their challenges soon became insignificant." ================== Jonas M. Panik and Eric Robert Milton graduated in 1993 from Bellefonte Area High School, Bellefonte, Centre County, PA. Possibly both of them are cousins to many of you. Eric is my 4th cousin/twice removed through common Etters / Etris and Loesch ancestry. Some of his ancestral surnames are MILTON, RICHARDS, HOUSER, CORMAN, KING, FOGLEMAN, ROTE, MILLER, HAZEL, WHITE and SHUEY. I don't know much about Jonas Panik or his ancestry, but do know that his mother was the former Linda E. Gentzel who grad. BAHS 1966, married to one Martin Panik, Jonas' father. Fred Houts, Brooklyn Center MN (native Centre Countian)

Hi Bill: I just found a nice description of weaving and the use of flax and wool in a 1976 booklet called the History of Salona, Clinton county, PA. I will write it up and e-mail it to everyone. It may take a few days as I have to take a business trip tomorrow thru Sat. Nancy Neuman ----- Original Message ----- From: "W.R. Hubler" <bill@hubler.com> To: "Nancy Neuman" <neuman@jdweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Weavers > Nancy, > > Thank you for your help. I called Andrea, but she did not have information > except in reference to the PRIESTLEYs; however, she referred me to the Union Co. > Historical Soc., and I have emailed them. That is because my ancestor, Abraham > Hubler, lived in New Berlin from 1800 until 1820 and was a weaver. He left very > little paper trail--only a few (3) listings on tax and census records where he > was identified as a "weaver." So, I began to look at weaving as an occupation > and found some references on weaving in Europe and American Indians but nothing > about weaving in 19th century PA. Do you have any ideas? > > Bill > > Nancy Neuman wrote: > > > My weaver friend tells me you should get in touch with the new head of > > textiles for the Joseph Priestley Museum, which is in Northumberland, PA. > > Her name is Andrea Bashore. The Priestley Museum number is: 570-473-9474. I > > don't have an e-mail address for her. > > > > In the Pennsylvania Archives Third Series are tax rolls for various counties > > in the 18th century. The name of the property owner is listed along with > > acreage, number of horses, cows, and SHEEP. > > > > When I looked up the tax assessments for Bald Eagle area from 1800-1816, > > people whose occupations were NOT farmer had their occupations listed and > > paid tax on them. You may find weavers listed that way. FYI--We still pay > > occupation taxes here in Union County. > > > > I noticed in a will I have for a John TEMPLETON who died in Centre County in > > 1809 that he is identified as "weaver." > > > > Nancy Neuman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "W.R. Hubler" <bill@hubler.com> > > To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 12:28 PM > > Subject: [PACENTRE] Weavers > > > > > Does anyone have a link or information about the occupation of weaving > > > in 18th and 19th century PA. I have an ancestor who was a weaver then. > > > I understand that flax and wool were both used. Were there many sheep > > > raised then? > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > > > Ideas for new projects to get Centre County data online? E-mail the > > listowner! Also visit our Centre Co. GenWeb archives page: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/centrez.html > > > >

----- Original Message ----- From: <joeorrison@home.com> To: <PAINDIAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:38 PM Subject: [INDIANA] Re: Researching Family > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UaB.2ACE/281.45.298.360.1 > > Message Board Post: > > I HAVE FAMILY IN PA.THEY LIVED IN AND AROUND > STATE COLLEGE AND BELLEFONTE. MY GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHERS NAME WAS GEORGE MCCLELLAN AND MY GRANDFATHERS NAME WAS HERBERT. HAD ONE BROTHER SAMUEL,SISTERS WERE: ANNE OR ALICE,MARY AND CARRIE. IF I CAN HELP LET ME KNOW. CEIL > > > > ==== PAINDIAN Mailing List ==== > NEW - July 1, 2000 > The Indiana Co. Branch of the Church of Jesus > Christ of Latter-Day Saints now has a web presence. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~paifhc >

Bob, If you are ever able to learn where those records are, I'd appreciate knowing it. Thanks for sharing that info. They would undoubtedly be a valuable resource for Howard area research. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Craig, These are the BATHURSTs from this record: 3 Mar 1872 BATHURST, Coffin for Child, $7 3 Mar 1872 BATHURST, James Coffin for Child, $7 25 Jan 1877 BATHURST, James Coffin for Son, $15 5 Jan 1881 BATHURST, John Coffin for Daughter, $20 13 May 1912 BATHURST, John, Estate. Attendance at funeral Rachel Jane Bathurst, b 3 Oct 1855, bur 28 Apr 1923 at Curtin; d/o John and Clara (Sennet) Streaster (perhaps Treaster?) Mirtle J. Bathurst, b 13 Jun 1921, bur 1923 Schencks Cem, d/o Edward & Mirtle (Shay) Bathurst. Ibra W. Bathurst, b 3 Jul 1882, bur 9 Mar 1926 at Curtin, s/o Austin & Jennie (Treaster) Bathurst. Robert M. Bathurst, bur 20 Dec 1933 at Curtin, s/o Ibra & Marie (Leathers) Bathurst. I trust this is useful. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

My great grandfather, Henry Clay Holter was also an undertaker in Howard around 1890. Unfortunately, I don't have any idea whether any of his records still exist or not. Bob

Sabrina, you said: << Does anyone have an idea where I could locate information listing the undertakers of the above mentioned areas from about 1880s - 1950s ????..... and who might now have their old records ??? Thanks !! Sabrina Marie Robb Ocala, Florida >> The Neff Funeral Home in Howard, PA has operated from 1853 to the present. With the permission of W. Robert Neff I was able to transcribe some of the older records, in the possession of Harry Glossner, and place a copy in the library in Bellefonte. Jerry McCloskey indexed the same. I have a copy of the transcript here at home and would be glad to look something up for you. The Neff Funeral home covered most of the valley. There were other funeral homes in the Blanchard area. The only one whose records have survived (that I know of) is the Bechdel Funeral Home, which operated out of Beech Creek (just over the line), from about 1900 to 1981. Those records are in the Ross Library in Lock Haven, PA. Let me know the name(s) you are hunting and I will look it up in the records I have. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Sharon, Unfortunately counties were not required to keep death certificates in PA before the year 1893. Some did, but they were few and far between. You will need to check estate files, obituaries, church records, etc., in the county of interest to get the info you seek. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

I am trying to find a death certificate for my ggrandfather, who followed the mines and died between 1866 and 1879. From what I can determine from Ancestry's Redbook, his death certificate could be in Philadelphia (the address I got from the Redbook and from the website was returned marked "not deliverable as addressed--unable to forward"), Northampton County, Shuylkill County, Lycoming County, and 2 other counties that haven't returned my letters and checks yet. All are stating that their death certificates don't go back as far as I am searching, yet the Redbook states that I should need to write to the county where the death occurred for a certificate during that time frame. Can anyone tell me what I need to do? Thanks for your help! Sharon in Ohio

Figure some listers will be interested -- September 8, 2001 Ghosts of Ellis Island The Ellis Island Immigration Museum recalls a time when this deserted patch of earth in New York Harbor was teeming with immigrants waiting to be processed and sent ashore as Americans. The two million people who visit the museum each year spend an hour or so among the exhibits and then leave, unaware that they have seen just one of 33 buildings that make up the sprawling but largely forgotten Ellis Island complex. The hospital buildings on the south side of the island were fenced off long ago to protect tourists from falling bricks, collapsing timbers and passageways that were knee-deep in dangerous debris. Temporary repairs have gotten under way. But until permanent restoration is undertaken, these magnificent buildings and the stories they have to tell are in danger of being swept away. The most startling part of the world inside the fence is the psychiatric hospital, to which government officials dispatched immigrants who were — or at least appeared to be — mentally ill. The sun porch of what was called the Psychopathic Ward is enclosed by a rusting wrought iron cage right out of a prison camp. The rooms are still eerily fitted with rusting beds and have cages over the doors, windows and even over the electric fans that were used to cool the place. The 29 buildings in this complex are mainly hospitals where new immigrants were sent to give birth, to be treated for curable illness or to die of illnesses that had no cure. The deaths and sickness are hardly surprising given that many immigrants arrived here after weeks at sea in steerage, the cramped, windowless bottom section of the ship. The typical accommodation was a space with several hundred beds no more than two feet wide, crammed so tightly together that there was barely room for the passengers to stand. With no ventilation, and sanitary facilities inadequate, the air quickly became foul and stayed that way. As a presidential report said in 1911, the filth in steerage compartments made it "a marvel that human flesh [could] endure it." Despite the deterioration, the hospital complex remains a handsome example of the golden age of public architecture, with copper gutters, skylights clad in terra cotta and interior doorways trimmed out in marble. Walking these ghostly hallways, from the nursery to the operating room to the morgue, one feels vividly the terror of immigrant people who had traveled thousands of miles in hardship only to be confined here for weeks while the government decided whether they would be sent back or allowed in. After decades of neglect, stabilizing repairs will keep the buildings standing while the National Park Service develops a restoration plan, and a not-for- profit group, Save Ellis Island, raises the money to finance it. With the cost estimated at $300 million, that effort has a long way to go. But the story of immigration is at the core of the American identity, and the buildings that help tell this chapter should not be lost.

Does anyone have a link or information about the occupation of weaving in 18th and 19th century PA. I have an ancestor who was a weaver then. I understand that flax and wool were both used. Were there many sheep raised then? Bill

Hi Does anyone have any info on a Daniel HICKS and Mary MILTNEY married March 16, 1833 in Bellefonte, Pa? (Centre Co.) Anyone researching Miltney out there? Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

Good evening list, A list member kindly forwarded the following on to me: "Hi Justin, Thought I would let you know there are many articles for sale on ebay that include old papers and booklets from Centre Daily Times, The Sentinel in Lewistown, Huntingdon Daily News, Philadelphia, Harrisburg, Sunbury. Some include Kennedy Murder and Agnes Storm of 1972. Thought the list would be interested." Those who are interested can view www.ebay.com. I have no personal involvement in this sale whatsoever. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

I believe that someone was asking about Jacob SHEARER on this list within the last week or two. There is a SHEARER Bible Record on the Franklin County GenWeb site posted by Carolyn K. Shearer that Justin Houser wrote me about recently. It can be found on the USGenWeb Archives at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/franklin/bibles/s660001.txt> or you might try <ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/franklin/bibles/s660001.txt>. Good luck. Diane in Michigan