Hello Barbara Rosnagle, I have an ADAMS family, but no David : They appear to be later than yours. Jacob Asher ADAMS (son of James H. ADAMS who lived at 243 High Street in Bellefonte Borough) married Alma Avilla SHEFFLER b. 1867 - d. 1930. Jacob was a brakeman. Their children were: 1) Marcella D. b. 1887, 2) James R. b. 1890, 3) Earl A. b. 1893, 4) Frances M. b. 1894, 5) J. Clyde b. 1896, 6) Alma Irene b. 1900, 7) Mildred Arlene b. 1907 - d. 1910 and 8) Pauline b. 1911 My information is from family files. No documentation. Regards, Paul

To Justin, I am happy that you are the owner of this list. You have been "out of your way" helpful to so many people (including me) who are looking for information. You are wonderfully knowledgeable about Centre Co. and surrounding area. I'm sure everyone appreciates the "extra mile" that you go. Thank you and God Bless, Arline

I agree. I've asked questions on other county sites with no response from the list manager. Even the answer "I don't know" would be courteous and also satisfy me. Thank you again Justin! Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ayde" <surchr@att.net> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 11:07 AM Subject: [PACENTRE] thanks > To Justin, > I am happy that you are the owner of this list. You have been "out of > your way" helpful to so many people (including me) who are looking for > information. You are wonderfully knowledgeable about Centre Co. and > surrounding area. I'm sure everyone appreciates the "extra mile" that > you go. > > Thank you and God Bless, > Arline > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > The PA Room at the Centre County Library in Bellefonte will answer brief lookup requests. Their email: Paroom@centrecountylibrary.org >

Thank you, Justin. Death Certificate of Sudie (Bartley) PEESE indicates her burial at Meyer Cemetery. It was signed 15 Dec 1951, the day before the burial. Obituary appearing in the Centre Democrat indicates Trcziyulny Cemetery. I'm guessing that she is actually at Trcziyulny Cemetery since the obit appeared after the burial. Also, her husband, Joseph V. Peese, was buried at Trcziyulny in 1962. Thanks so much for your help - and all you give to the list. Colette

Sue and list, I have Thomas Stover (1797-1833) married c1821 to Abigail Frantz (1802-1864). Their children were: Mary Ann Stover--born 1820-25 Rachel Stover--born 1820-25, married Jacob Frederick Susan Stover--born 1825-30 Lewis Harper Stover--born 12 Feb 1829 Thomas is buried in the Stover Cemetery and Abigail is buried as " wife of Thomas Stover" in Aaronsburg Lutheran Cemetery. Pat Stover Fair pstoverfair@juno.com Stover Genealogy Page http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/8220

Colette, Meyer Cemetery is in Benner Township. Trcziyulny Cemetery is in Boggs Township. There is no relationship between the two. I have gravestone listings, though, for both, so if you send me the name and dates I will try and see which is correct. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

I have a death certificate that states a relative was buried at Meyer Cemetery. The obituary of this same person states burial was made at Trcziyulny Cemetery. Can someone tell me if there is a relationship between the two cemeteries? Or are they alternate names for the same place? Thanks for any help, Colette

In a message dated 02/10/2002 11:40:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, brosnagle@home.com writes: > 2/10/2002 > My ggggrandparents, JOHN AND LETITIA MORROW, evidently moved from > Chester to the Bellefonte area around 1800+. One source says they were > among the early settlers in the Bellefonte area. Later they lived in Rush > T. He died after 1820. She a decade later, and she is buried in the Mud > Church graveyard in Philipsburg. One of their daughters married a SIMLER. > I am descended from LETITIA who married DAVID ADAMS. > > Can anyone tell me more about them, their children, where they > lived, when they came to the U.S., married in Ireland or here? I will be > happy to share info with anyone who can help me out with JOHN MORROW. > Hi Barbara I'm not related or researching this family but I found this info listed in my books on Centre Co., Pa: "Centre Co. Pa Marriages 1800 - 1850" 1814 Feb. 1814 ~ Charles SIMLER and Sallie MORROW (no residences listed or who they were married by) Ref. source: Comm. Biographical Record of Central Pa 1838 Oct. 14, 1838 ~ Richard ATHERTON and Mary Ann MORRELL (MRS. MORROW) no residences listed, m. by Samuel WAY. Ref. Source: Central Democrat 10/15 and Spangler Coll: 174:14 (no MORROW's listed) "Centre Co. Newspaper Deaths, 1821 - 1869" 1823 SIMLER, Sarah (Mrs.) Wed., Dec. 25, 1822 at Philipsburg. Consort of Henry SIMLER. Her age was three score & 7. Bellefonte Patriot Jan. 15, 1823 "Centre Co. Death Records, 1852 - 54 and 1893 - 1905" SIMLER, Elizabeth, f age 32, married, b. Brookville, d. Jan. 19, 1897 at Nineth St. of Inflammation of Bowels, Interred at Philipsburg, Pa. SIMLER, Mary E. ~ f age 9, Parents: William & Elizabeth, b. Phillipsburg, d. April 1, 1897 at Nineth St., of Diptheria, Interred Philipsburg. SIMLER, George B., male age 83, married, b. Philipsburg, occupation: Carpenter, died: Oct. 2, 1904 at Philipsburg of Kidney Disease, Interred at Philipsburg. (No MORROW's listed) Hope this helps! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl Researching: Hughes, Hicks, Lamborn, Nearhood, Westbrook, Simpson in Centre Co. Pa.

Justin - Thanks for responding to my post so quickly. I knew it was just a matter of time that there would be some connection with you, no matter how loose. The OSWALTs were in that area for many years, and quite a few generations. Of the suppositions you make about Maude FETZER, either scenario could be valid. The OSWALTs I listed were all born in Clarence, and James and Mary OSWALT lived there until their deaths. The females in this line mature very early and never lack for suitors. Although I have never heard of a child out of wedlock, there are a lot of seven-month first children. This, in spite of the fact that morality and spiritual values are emphasized among all that I have known or met. I guess the next thing is to look for a 1st marriage between Ellen and a Fetzer. Thanks for correcting the name, it was hard to read on the census. Regards, Jan Leigh Strange, CCHT, RM Ask me about hypnotherapy for enhanced self esteem, pain management, self healing, spiritual emergence, past life regression, or Reiki treatment using healing universal energy.

Hello Sue Renkert, I visited the TRCZIYULNY (Milesburg), OLD METHODIST/LUTHERAN (Pleasant Gap) and CENTRE HALL cemeteries in '99 and I know I saw some BRILLHART grave stones. Since it was my first cemetery hopping trip and I wasn't looking for them, I didn't record which cemetery they were in...(newbie mistake). Of the three I visited, I tend to think it was the Old Methodist/Lutheran cemetery...? Possibly someone on the list can clear that up for us...? Regards, Paul

Pat, Here is the obit of Rachel: Her obituary in the DEMOCRATIC WATCHMAN of 19 June 1925 reads: "Mrs. Rachel K. Stover, widow of the late Noah Stover of Haines township, Centre county, died at the home of her son, Charles, in Altoona, on Sunday morning, aged 85 years. Her husband has been dead for some years but surviving her are two sons and one daughter: Charles H. Stover, of Altoona; Harold C., of Millheim; and Mrs. Harry Rohm, of Lancaster County. Mrs. Stover was a member of the Lutheran church all her life. The remains were taken to Wolf's Store where funeral services were held in Wolf's Chapel on Wednesday afternoon, burial being made in the cemetery adjoining the chapel." NOTE: Wolf's Chapel is in a different valley than Wolf's Store. Apparently the writer of the obituary was confused. Wolf's Chapel was located near Aaronsburg, Haines Twp., Centre Co., PA. Wolf's Store is a village in Miles Twp., Centre Co., PA. She was Rachael SHIRK, b abt 1839 in Union Co, PA, d 14 Jun 1925 in Altoona, Blair Co, PA; bur 17 Jun 1925 in Stover (Wolfs Chapel) Cem, Haines Twp, Centre Co, PA. Her parents were Jacob SHIRK (b 8 Aug 1804 in PA; d 8 Sep 1872 in Hartley Twp, Union Co, PA; bur in Keister Cem, Hartley Twp) and his wife, Elizabeth --- (b 18 May 1813 in PA; d 4 Dec 1886, bur with husband). His parents were Abraham SHIRK (b c1760-70 in Lebanon Co, PA; d abt Jun 1848 in Hartley Twp, Union Co, PA; likely bur Keister Cem, no gravestone), and his wife Magdalena GINGRICH, who d pre-1840. She was a d/o Michael GINGRICH Jr. (1753-1838) and Catharine KAUFFMAN (1763-1839). Michael's father was Michael GINGRICH Sr. (d 1785), and his stepmother was Magdalena FOULKE (see below). His parents were Abraham SCHERCK (b abt 1746 in Bethel Twp, Lebanon Co, PA; d 1829 in East Hanover Twp, Lebanon Co, PA) and his wife, Margaret LENTZ. His parents were Casper SCHÜRCH (b c1700-10, prob in Germany of Swiss parentage; d 1770 in Bethel Twp, Lebanon Co, PA; bur Wolfs Union Cem, Lebanon Co); and his wife, Magdalena FOULKE, who d 1796 in Bethel Twp. Casper was the immigrant of 1732 on the ill-fated voyage "Love and Unity," and arrived in Philadelphia on the "Norris." His first wife and child died at sea. He is listed as "Code H" in the records of the Schürch Family Association of North America. Magdalena FOULKE remarried to Michael GINGRICH Sr. (d 1785) after the death of her husband. You'll note that he was the grandfather of Abraham SHIRK's wife! Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Jan, I suspect that Maude FITZER age 16 is really Maude FETZER. I believe that she is the same woman who married Omar ETTERS, my relative, as Maude was from Clarence, which is in Snow Shoe Township. Here is Omar's obituary: His obituary in the CENTRE DEMOCRAT of 20 Sep 1956 reads: "Omar F. Etter, retired, who resided in Pitcairn, Pa., died at his home Wednesday, Sept. 19, 1956. He was 71 years of age. Mr. Etter, born in Pine Hall, Centre County, was the son of Reuben and Salena Carson. He was married to the former Maude Fetzer of Clarence who preceded him in death. Two brothers and one sister survive. They are Ralph of Williamsport, Harry of Snow Shoe and Mrs. Velda Gillen of Bellefonte and Largo, Fla. Funeral services will be held on Saturday with interment in Pitcairn." Pitcairn is in Allegheny County, near Pittsburgh. Omar's parents were really Reuben and Salena (Carson) Etters (with an "s.") Whether he dropped the "s" or the obit just misprinted I can't say. I am also a direct descendant of the FETZERs in Centre Co. (earliest one in line was Andrew FETZER, c1750-1804.) I don't know how Maude fits in, though. Whether she was Ellen's daughter to a prior husband OR whether Ellen had her out of wedlock with a Mr. _______ Fetzer I can't say. Hopefully this gives you some clues and if you learn any more about Maude or this elusive Mr. Fetzer, I would be most interested in knowing about it! Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

2/10/2002 Hi List: My brick wall is the parents and siblings of DAVID ADAMS, b. ?? Penn Valley 1798, who married LETITIA MORROW in Rush T. in 1822. They later moved to Clearfield. I need to move sideways and backward on DAVID, esp. his parents. Can anyone help? Thanx, Barbara

2/10/2002 My ggggrandparents, JOHN AND LETITIA MORROW, evidently moved from Chester to the Bellefonte area around 1800+. One source says they were among the early settlers in the Bellefonte area. Later they lived in Rush T. He died after 1820. She a decade later, and she is buried in the Mud Church graveyard in Philipsburg. One of their daughters married a SIMLER. I am descended from LETITIA who married DAVID ADAMS. Can anyone tell me more about them, their children, where they lived, when they came to the U.S., married in Ireland or here? I will be happy to share info with anyone who can help me out with JOHN MORROW. Thanx, Barbara

--part1_51.18d98d08.2997d491_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_51.18d98d08.2997d491_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <PABLAIR-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-za03.mx.aol.com (rly-za03.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.99]) by air-za02.mail.aol.com (v83.35) with ESMTP id MAILINZA21-0210074615; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:46:15 -0500 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com (lists5.rootsweb.com [63.92.80.123]) by rly-za03.mx.aol.com (v83.35) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA38-0210074555; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:45:55 1900 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g1ACj0L07917; Sun, 10 Feb 2002 05:45:00 -0700 Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 05:45:00 -0700 X-Original-Sender: RJWNLW65@aol.com Sun Feb 10 05:44:59 2002 From: RJWNLW65@aol.com Message-ID: <8a.13cfcfa9.2997c545@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:44:53 EST Old-To: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10555 Subject: [PABLAIR-L] Obits~Blair and surrounding areas Resent-Message-ID: <UK4MCC.A.h7B.MtmZ8@lists5.rootsweb.com> To: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/2669 X-Loop: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: PABLAIR-L-request@rootsweb.com I have the following obits, if you would like a scanned copy please email me offlist and include the date and name. (some roll call names on this list) Mrs. Martha Alice Enyeart Cook, 1934 (Clover Creek), daughter of Benjamin and Catherine Spealman Enyeart, married John H. Cook. Harry Monroe Christian, 1934, son of Jonathan and Mary Christian, married Lillian Sweet Shively. Mrs. Mame Pelaggi Fonner, 1934 (Clover Creek), married Theodore Fonner. Leonard Vanderpool, 1934, son of Leonard and Beatrice Kerr Vanderpool. Walter E. Fluke, 1934 (New York, native of Hollidaysburg), son of Oliver B. and Mary Mentzer Fluke. Daniel Kime Fry, 1934 (Phila., native of Altoona), son of William A. and Anna M. Fry. Howard S. Otto, 1934, son of Henry H. and Mary Westley Otto, married Mary McQuade. Mrs. Mary Jane Wertz Mowery, 1934 (Bedford), daughter of William and Mary Ellen Conrad Wertz, widow of Zachariah Mowery. *residing with daughter, Mrs. John Dibert. James Arthur Imler, 1934 (Roaring Spring), son of Frank and Esther Imler, married Lucy Ida Smith. Mrs. Rachel Lingenfelter Dively, 1934 (Klahr), daughter of George and Barbara Claar Lingenfelter, widow of Martin Dively. Mrs. Mary Johnson Wilt, 1934, daughter of Thomas and Sarah Johnson. Mrs. Ida Bell Kinser Twigg, 1947 (Cambria Co.), daughter of George and Mary Ellen Kinser, married James Eli Twigg. Mrs. Annie G. Lawson Thompson, 1947 (Bellefonte), widow of James. Mrs. Minnie Bertoncini Tedeski, 1947 (Indiana Co.), daughter of Peter and Delia Valenti Bertoncini. married Angelo Tedeski. Mrs. Eva Davis Twitmyer, 1947 (Pleasant Gap), daughter of Ira and Nancy Turner Davis, wife of Harry Twitmyer. Mrs. Fannie Henderson Troxell, 1947, daughter of William and Mollie Henderson. Cecil Thrasher, 1947 (Midland), son of Enoch and Catherine Thrasher, married Mattie Sulser. Evan Lewis Thomas, 1947 (Barnesboro), son of David H. and Ann Thomas, married Elizabeth Ashurst. Katie Schenk Thurston, 1947 (California, formerly of Howard), daughter of Albert and Nancy Schenk, wife of Wallace S. Thurston. Henry E. Miller, 1890 L. K. Lodge, 1890 Annie Whiteman http://www.rootsweb.com/~pablair September 11, 2001 ==== PABLAIR Mailing List ==== Blair County was formed in 1846 from portions of Bedford and Huntingdon Counties. --part1_51.18d98d08.2997d491_boundary--

I'm beginning a diligent search for sibs of Grandmother Bertha OSWALT WEBER, and their families and descendants. These are children of Mary F. HERSHEY and JAMES L. OSWALT of Potter Tsp., Centre County. 1. Ellen E. OSWALT b. 1871 m. Charles McLAUGHLIN 2. Andrew J. OSWALT b. 1875 3. Cora A. OSWALT b. 1881 - died young 4. Gus(tava) S. OSWALT b. 1882 m. Thomas Hayes 5. Theodocia H. OSWALT b. 1886 6. Walter M. OSWALT b. 1888 7. James L. OSWALT b. 1890 At this point, I am concentrating on McLAUGHLIN and HAYES. On the 1910 Snow Shoe Tsp. census, I find Ellen OSWALT McLAUGHLIN as head of household. Other inhabitants are her brother Walter age 22, dau Maude FITZER age 16, and son Dewey? McLAUGHLIN age11. Gussie OSWALT HAYES age 28 lives next door and is shown as wife of Thomas HAYES age 32. Also listed is Grandfather Andrew Jackson HERSHEY age 77, dau Lula F. HAYES age 12, and son Daniel Hayes age 7. If anyone is related or has information on these people, I would truly appreciate any help in locating particulars and descendants. Thanks in advance. Regards, Jan Leigh Strange, CCHT, RM Ask me about hypnotherapy for enhanced self esteem, pain management, self healing, spiritual emergence, past life regression, or Reiki for healing universal energy.

I just came across a Genforum posting that inquires about a Jacob FREDERICK, born Union Co., PA, who married Rachel STOVER and had a son Thomas. This is apparently the same couple that I asked about in my previous post, who were living with Abigail Brilhart. Can any of you STOVER researchers out there shed any light on who Abigail Brilhart might be? Thanks! Sue

I am trying to sort out the family of my ggg grandparents, Samuel & Elizabeth BRILLHART, and I wonder if anyone has any information that may help, or if anyone can give me some new perspective on something I may not be seeing here. I have baptismal records (Salem Lutheran) for three of their children, born in Aaronsburg in 1815 (Jacob), 1817 (Margaret) and 1823 (Peter). 1820 Census - Haines Township, Centre County, PA Samuel & Elizabeth BRILLHART, both in the 26-44 age group 2 males under 10 (Jacob, 4 & ??), 1 male 16-25 (unknown) 1 female under 10 (Margaret, 3), & 1 female 10-15 (??) (Peter was not born yet) Either there were two older children for which I have found no other record, or perhaps either Samuel or Elizabeth had a brother with a young child staying with them. xxxxxxxxxxxxx 1830 Census - Haines Township, Centre County, PA - Samuel BRILLHART, age 40-50, 1 male 5-10 (Peter, 6), 1 male 10-15 (Jacob, 14) and 1 female 10-15 (Margaret, 13). Just the three children I have baptismal records for in this census. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Samuel is listed in the 1840 census, his age is 50-60, apparently a widow, with 1 female under 5, 1 20-30 and 1 (40-50). Margaret was married by 1832. Peter living in Aaronsburg in 1845, so I have no idea why he is not listed in the 1840 census. I have no idea what happened to Jacob. There is no record of him after the 1830 census. The logical explanation is that Samuel had remarried to a woman with a daughter and possibly a granddaughter. Agnes is married by1840 to John Ross BELL, and there is a woman 50-60 listed with them who could be Margaret's mother or Ross's mother. Ross' father is not found in the census. And Margaret's mother was not listed back in 1830, so it seems likely she had died. xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 1850 Census - Haines & Penn Township, Centre County, no record of Samuel BRILLHART in the 1850 census. Abigail BRILHART 50 F is living with: Jacob FREDERICK 25 M Carpenter, Real Estate Value $800 Rachael FREDERICK 21 F Thomas FREDERICK 2 M Mary FREDERICK 1 F Abigail - possible second wife of Samuel???????? Is anyone familiar with the FREDERICK families of Centre County? Does anyone have a record of the marriage of this Jacob and Rachel that would give Rachel's maiden name? Does anyone know who Abigail BRILHART might be????? I sure would appreciate any help or insight anyone might be able to give me! Thanks much! Sue

Does anyone have any suggestions about the following: I am looking for Robert Watson and his son James Watson in the 1860 and 1870 census records, but can't find them. Robert is in the 1850 census in Potter Township with wife Matilda and children. He disappears from the Potter census in 1860 even though he died in 1863. I cannot find James in the Potter census either, even though my family history describes him as a "prominent farmer in Centre County." I have also looked through about half of the other townships with no luck yet. My questions: Are there any indexes for these years? Did a township possibly break off from Potter in the 1850's and form a new township? James was later buried in Bellefonte. What townships are close to Bellefonte that would be farming areas in that era? Any help would be appreciated.

In a message dated 02/09/2002 5:17:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, fleurbier@earthlink.net writes: > I have the following for Elizabeth and Baltzar, but this is all. I would > enjoy any help filling in the details as well. Also, I am interested in > Mary Magdalena Minnich whose information is below. > Hi Doug This info comes from "Centre Co. American.Rev. Soldiers & Patriots" (John) George BOTTORF (BATDORFF) b. 1746 d. 1831 Potter Twp. married: Mary (Maria) Dorothea HOLTZMAN (dtr. Henry HOLTZMAN) Nov. 10, 1772 Christ Lutheran Church, Stouchburg, Berks Co., Pa Rev. War Service Captain Comments Lived in tulpehocken, Berks Co., came to Centre Co. from schaefferstown, Lebanon Co. about 1815. Children: John George Maria Magdalena Maria Elizabeth Jonathan Elizabeth m. John KELLER Jacob m. 1. Mary Magdalena MINNICH 2. Lydia ANSPACH Catherine Anna Maria Barbara m. Conrad ISHLER Mary Maria Margaret m. Henry DECKER Susan m. David HARPSTER Christian Ref. Patriot Index Early Church Records of Lebanon Co. Pa. by F. Edward Wright 1995 pg. 55, 60, 67 The BATDORFF Family Genealogy, first three Generations in America by Arthur C. BADORF Pioneer Settlers of Centfre Co. Pa by Vashti Seaman 1973 pg. 24 - 30 Centre Co. Estate File #313 and # 316 (As Battorf) Will signed May 16, 1824 probated May 30, 1831 Hope this helps! Jean