Cedar Creek area is now in Harris Township, but before 1836 was a part of Potter. Linn's History is available from the Centre County Historical Society (bicentennial edition) for $85.00, from a dealer in Maryland (2 vols. I believe) for something like $67, and from www.bushbooks.com on CD ROM for about $40. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Hi Fred...and anyone else with this problem: Sorry...I may have left out a letter in the URL for my Centre Co. "Where To Go and Place Names" Surname Index: Here is the correct URL: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paroth/MATERNAL/Where-PlaceNames.html Regards, Paul

Hi all -- I am sorry to be bombarding this forum with so many questions, but I have entered one of those periods when the pieces of the puzzle are coming together and I need only a few more bits of information to make sense of everything. (Well maybe not everything -- but the story of my Watson ancestors, at least.) Specifically I am interested in finding out if anyone knows the the date of death and burial place of Elizabeth Hess Watson, born about 1825 and died sometime between 1864 and 1878. She was the daughter of Rachel and Lewis Hess. Census of 1860 has the Watson family in Walker Township, records also indicate the family lived in Boggs Township. Also wonder if anyone has a reference to the death of Andrew J. Watson (son of Elizabeth and James Watson) born about 1855, may have died sometime before 1878.

HI all -- I know someone out there knows where Cedar Creek is. I am trying to determine whether Joseph G. Watson born in Cedar Creek in 1802 is likely to be part of my line. The obituary written in 1849 says "Cedar Creek, now Linden Hall." The Watsons I am researching were living in Potters Township in 1802. Is Cedar Creek by any chance part of Potters Township? Second question -- Is Linn's history still in print for purchase?

There are MANY old Pennsylvania documents for sale on E-Bay. These folks cleaned out an attic and their ggg grandfather's trunk. There are literally hundreds of these documents, from throughout Pennsylvania, from the mid-1800s to the early 1900s. There are also items from New York and possibly other states. Some are lineage documents; some legal documents; some family documents. I was going to include all of the names, but soon realized there were too many to list. I am sending this to the Union, Centre, Clinton and Clearfield County (PA) lists. Please forward it to any other PA lists you may belong to. This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. It would be a shame for someone to miss the opportunity to own an original family document. Some of the names are Stover, Neff, Follmer, Voneida, Adams, Dodson, Winchester, Brenner, Clark, Dubois, Petney, Taylor, Scheid, McDonald, Adam, Root, Handeuburgh, CASELBERRY,COLLIN, WEILZEL, BOSWELL,PARK, LUNDY/WHITEHEAD Perry, CRIST/MULL, TROWBRIDGE/HILLIARD, GOULD & HILL, MOREHOUSE & JOHN, MOREHOUSE & JOHN, DECHAMBOT, BROWN , BALTMORE & GREEN, BEALS AND LOOMIS, TRICK & REDFOOT , DUNBAR AND MUSCHLER, BURNHAW,HOPKINS, RATES CO , FRITZ & TUNK, PALLEYS , ELLIOT FAMILY , 1874 FINNEY & SCHAUB, KAHLER & KAUFMAN, KYLES & BLAIR, MEEK & RUTH, WINNER & VIERING , TROXELL, GOETZ / MENSCH , WILLMER / SYKES, GRAHAM/SHAFFER , GEBHART/MOSER, STAVER, KNIGHT/GRAMLICH, COSGROVE/RISHEL , J.P.ZIMMERMAN/YENA, LOVE/STELLER, PALMER/BRION /DAUGHERTY, HOFFMAN/YODER, TONER/WEAVER, HOFFMAN/YODER, Zerbe, Moyers, UPDEGRAFF/COOLEY, Hartman, Wolf, FLECKENSTINE/PINEAU , Bell, Bird To view all the items, go to http://pages.ebay.com/search/items/search_seller.html and enter the seller's user name excusebusterss This will bring up a listing of all the items. Please excuse the punctuation and capitalization - didn't have time to reformast this. Good luck! Sue

Justin wrote: >Bob, > >I would be interested in a copy, as Robert Kennelly is kin to me. I suggest >you give the original to the Centre County Library and Historical Museum, 203 >N. Allegheny St., Bellefonte, PA 16823, the primary record-holding >institution for local genealogists and historians. > >I do not know of records of Spring Mills Methodist Episcopal Church in the >Bellefonte library. The only (current) United Methodist Church I can find in >the area is: > >Faith United Methodist Church, P.O. Box 239, Aaronsburg, PA 16820. That is >the mailing address. The street address is Route 45, Spring Mills. You can >call them 814-349-4491. I am embarrassed to say that I am not familiar with >this congregation. They are officially known as "Spring Mills Faith" by the >United Methodist Church. > >FYI, the church is within the jurisdiction of the State College District >(Superintendent Patricia Woolever), in the Central Pennsylvania Conference >(Bishop Neil Irons). If you find that this is not your ancestors' church, >you can contact Dr. Milton Loyer, Conference Archivist, at (I think) >loyer@lycoming.edu. I may not have the address correct, but if you do a >search on the 'Net, you may find it. The Conference Archives at Lycoming >College in Williamsport should hold records (if any) for defunct churches in >the bounds of the Conference. > >I'd recommend giving Faith Church a call, and see what they can do for you. > >Justin Justin, Yes, the e-mail address is <loyer@lycoming.edu> And the website is, or was (I hope it still is): <http://www.lycoming.edu/dept/umarch/> Hope this helps. We have a VERY NICE experience going there with Dr Loyer most helpful and his volunteer just as nice and helpful. The archive is open only certain days and times so call or e-mail ahead. It is easy to find in the Lycoming College Library. -- Carol Courter Updegraff PO Box 222 Glennallen, AK 99588-0222 cupdegraff@cvinternet.net Locations I am researching include Lycoming, Clinton, Centre, Snyder and Northumberland Counties in Pennsylvania. Names I am researching include Courter, Updegraff, Bitner, Smith, Johnson, Stull, Potts, Kunes, Chatham, Hulsizer, Wensel, DeHaas, Paulhamus, Bauder, Nearhood, Steinhelper, Hoppes, Marshall, Bechdel, and many more!!

Bob, I would be interested in a copy, as Robert Kennelly is kin to me. I suggest you give the original to the Centre County Library and Historical Museum, 203 N. Allegheny St., Bellefonte, PA 16823, the primary record-holding institution for local genealogists and historians. I do not know of records of Spring Mills Methodist Episcopal Church in the Bellefonte library. The only (current) United Methodist Church I can find in the area is: Faith United Methodist Church, P.O. Box 239, Aaronsburg, PA 16820. That is the mailing address. The street address is Route 45, Spring Mills. You can call them 814-349-4491. I am embarrassed to say that I am not familiar with this congregation. They are officially known as "Spring Mills Faith" by the United Methodist Church. FYI, the church is within the jurisdiction of the State College District (Superintendent Patricia Woolever), in the Central Pennsylvania Conference (Bishop Neil Irons). If you find that this is not your ancestors' church, you can contact Dr. Milton Loyer, Conference Archivist, at (I think) loyer@lycoming.edu. I may not have the address correct, but if you do a search on the 'Net, you may find it. The Conference Archives at Lycoming College in Williamsport should hold records (if any) for defunct churches in the bounds of the Conference. I'd recommend giving Faith Church a call, and see what they can do for you. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Paul, Go to www.centredaily.com -- the website of the CDT. The Dubbs book has been out of print for years -- an invaluable resource. My grandparents have one. Many thanks to you for 1) compiling the index, and 2) posting it online. What a generous spirit of dedication! Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

I think it would be great to scan this program and place the scan on one of the Centre County websites. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "B & P Leitzell" <our.genealogy@starband.net> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:57 AM Subject: [PACENTRE] M.E. Church - Spring Mills? > We just came across a "Souvenir Program for the Christmas Service in the M.E. Church, Monday Eve, Dec. 25, 1893" in my grandmother's (Amanda Noffsker Leitzell) bible. The program is in excellent condition. > > The names mentioned in the program are: > Miss Ida Condo (Organist) > Katie Shires, Recitation: "The happy Christmas." > Myrtie Glass, Recitation: "The Nativity." > Cora Condo, Recitation: "The Beggar's Home." > Katie Kessler, Recitation: "The New Dawn." > Gilbert H. Minnigh, Recitation: "Adoration." > Jessie Fredericks, Recitation: "The Christian Carol." > John S. Minnigh, Recitation: "Good Tidings." > Gracie Kessler, Recitation: "Listening." > Robbie Kennelly, Recitation: "Santa Claus' Visit." > M. B. Runkle, Recitation: "Not unto the angels." > David Sowers, Recitation: "Christmas Pictures." > Wilbur Shires, Recitation: "The wonderful name." > > We would be happy to send a copy of this program to any interested family member. We plan to donate the original to an appropriate group in Centre County when we visit this fall. > > Bob & Paula Leitzell > Mokelumne Hill, CA 95245 > "In the foothills of the Sierra" > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > Centre County was formed in 1800 from parts of Northumberland, Mifflin, Huntingdon and Lycoming Counties. In 1839 part of Centre County was formed into Clinton County. >

We just came across a "Souvenir Program for the Christmas Service in the M.E. Church, Monday Eve, Dec. 25, 1893" in my grandmother's (Amanda Noffsker Leitzell) bible. The program is in excellent condition. The names mentioned in the program are: Miss Ida Condo (Organist) Katie Shires, Recitation: "The happy Christmas." Myrtie Glass, Recitation: "The Nativity." Cora Condo, Recitation: "The Beggar's Home." Katie Kessler, Recitation: "The New Dawn." Gilbert H. Minnigh, Recitation: "Adoration." Jessie Fredericks, Recitation: "The Christian Carol." John S. Minnigh, Recitation: "Good Tidings." Gracie Kessler, Recitation: "Listening." Robbie Kennelly, Recitation: "Santa Claus' Visit." M. B. Runkle, Recitation: "Not unto the angels." David Sowers, Recitation: "Christmas Pictures." Wilbur Shires, Recitation: "The wonderful name." We would be happy to send a copy of this program to any interested family member. We plan to donate the original to an appropriate group in Centre County when we visit this fall. Bob & Paula Leitzell Mokelumne Hill, CA 95245 "In the foothills of the Sierra"

Hello Justin, I recently created, transcribed and posted to the list, a surname index for "Where To Go and Place Names of Centre Co. PA." by Paul M. DUBBS. My copy of the loose leaf notebook was given to my maternal grandfather by the author and transcribed. It is a collection of articles printed in The Centre Daily Times 1959-60. It has a LOT of info on the early settlers. Unfortunately none of my Centre Co. names are in that book : (KELLERMAN_HUGHES_BENN_ HOLLIBAUGH_SHEFFLER_RHOADS_ FUREY). My site is at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paroth - The hotlink is after my Maternal list of surnames. The index is by page number, not aplhabetized. The author stated that there was a great deal of info collected, but that space and time constrictions dictated what was actually published...sure would like to get my hands on that extra material...! Can you tell me if The Centre Daily Times is still in operation? And if so, give me their address...or do they also have an email address? For anyone who asked about obtaining a copy of the lose leaf book: There was no price printed on the cover, so I don't know if it was ever published for sale to the general public. Regards, Paul A. Roth

Does anyone know if the records of the Spring Hills Methodist Church have been copied or if the early records are available at the church? When did the church start? I believe that my grandmother, Amanda Noffsker Leitzell may have attended this church beginning in the the 1880s. Are record of this church available at the Centre Co. Library in Bellfonte? Bob & Paula Leitzell Mokelumne Hill, CA "In the foothills of the Sierra" Listmaster of "Leitzell" mailing list at rootsweb

A reminder: Search the Archives! Remember that everything ever submitted to the list is in the Archives and it can be searched. The address is: http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl The link is: <A HREF="http://searches2.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl"> RootsWeb Mailing List Search</A> The Archives contain birth, death, marriage, cemetery and other records. Many genealogies. Township and county histories. Tons of wonderful information is waiting right there at your fingertips! Just go to the website; on page 1 under Name of List put PACENTRE; on page 2 put your surname and select the year data was entered. It's that easy. Try all the years because this list has been growing like a weed! Good luck! Diana Mason

I saw the recent posting of GROVE surname and wanted to add my GROVE line. This listing starts with my grandparents and traces back 5 generations. I am confident that my data is correct through James Grove unfortunately I'm not so confident about his parents Philip and Elizabeth. Thomas Rudolph Grove 1902 - 1972 +Marian Isabel Bible 1903 � 1981 Whitmer Brownell Grove 1873 - 1966 +Emma Josephine Hockman 1877 � 1945 Thomas Brownell Grove 1843 - 1921 +Emma Priscilla Sheffler 1845 - 1922 James Grove 1810 - 1892 +Christenah Hammond 1811 � 1863 *2nd Wife of James Grove: +Mary Coy 1815 � 1869 Philip Grove 1778 - 1855 +Elizabeth Please let me know if you think there's a link! Feel free to email me at jennifermatthey@yahoo.com. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com

I'm researching WOHLFORD and KRAMER. same time period. Peace and Gentle Sunsets, ~~~Pam Outgoing mail scanned by Norton Antivirus 2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gen Post" <findfam@yahoo.com> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] Rebersburg > > Seeking fellow researchers of Rebersberg > > circa 1800-1870+ > > Surnames: > Wohlford > Kramer > McCauley

My Brillhart/Brillhardt ancestors were of German descent and lived in the Aaronsburg/Woodward/Rebersburg area, same time period. Sue Renkert Fairbanks, Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gen Post" <findfam@yahoo.com> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:33 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] Rebersburg > > Seeking fellow researchers of Rebersberg > > circa 1800-1870+ > > Surnames: > Wohlford > Kramer > McCauley > > Institutions: > German Church > Whiskey Distillery > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > Don't forget to check for alternate spellings of your surnames; people 100 years ago weren't always good spellers! >

Pat Stover Fair & other list members Did anyone have Stover's that came to Mercer Co Ohio. Saw some information on the Mercer Co list regarding Moses Stover if anyone is interested will pass it on. Sue

Seeking fellow researchers of Rebersberg circa 1800-1870+ Surnames: Wohlford Kramer McCauley Institutions: German Church Whiskey Distillery __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Hello, This is my first attempt to locate ancestors on the net and I need lots of help! I am trying to find information on William Deter, B.1841 in Union Co., married Elizabeth Billet in 1861 in Hublersburg, Centre Co., died in 1906 in Curwensville, Clearfield Co. Had 1 known brother, John, B.1842 in Mifflinburg, Union Co. Father's name was John married to Catherine Everhart. . Thanks. Mary Deter

In a message dated 02/25/2002 5:35:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, someotherperson@msn.com writes: > Thank you ......Thank you ...... Thank you ...... Thank you! Hopefully this > is the peace(s) that have I been missing :) > > Hi Ed I found this reference in "Centre Co. Rev. War Patriots & soldiers" PHILIP DENNY ! When a youth was to have sailed on ship "Roebuck. Was to have served with Gen. Wayne at Paoli. His widow, Margaret (MCCAULEY) DENNY, lived on the mountain in Benner Twp. in 1832. Dtr. Sarah married David PRUNER/BRUNER. Ref. Centre Co. Heritage 3:5, pgs. 254 - 258: 11, Notebook on Rev. War Soldiers Jean