--part1_6.25833edf.29c2c02b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_6.25833edf.29c2c02b_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <DDuBarry@aol.com> From: DDuBarry@aol.com Full-name: DDuBarry Message-ID: <4f.19f9980d.29bff68d@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:25:49 EST Subject: Peck&Sollenberger (23 Dec 1922) To: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 >From the same issue of the Altoona Mirror which had my Edw. Updike obit, here is a marriage record if anyone is researching these lines. (I have no further info on this couple). Regards, Luann (Date: 23 Dec 1922, Source: Altoona Mirror) PECK-SOLLENBERGER At high noon Thursday, Rev. Isaac (____ er?? xerox blurred), pastor of the Duncansville Lutheran church, performed the ceremony that made Jeremiah PECK and Mary M. SOLLENBERGER, both of Duncansville, man and wife. They were attended by Miss Magdeline KIPE and mr Austin CLAPPER, both of Williamsburg. The impressive ceremony of the Lutheran church was used. The ceremony was performed in the presence of about twenty-five relatives and invited friends of the couple. Following the ceremony a sumptuous wedding dinner was served at the bride's home, where the wedding took place. Mr. Peck is one of Duncansville's best known and most highly esteemed citizens and is a (teamster? xerox blurred) by occupation. His bride is also well known in the community and both are popular in a wide circle of friends. For the present they will reside at the bride's home just outside Duncansville, but in the near future will reside in their home in Duncansville. They have the well wishes of their friends for an extended and happy cruise on the sea of matrimony. # # # --part1_6.25833edf.29c2c02b_boundary--

From: IPoole@centredaily.com (Isaiah Poole) Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2002, 6:15pm (EST+1) To: Genzen1@webtv.net Subject: Re: Where To Go & Place Names of Centre Co. <<"Mayor Welch can be reached at the Borough of State College office, 237-3803. I don't have any information on the Dubbs estate, but if new information surfaces, I will pass it in. Our online archives only goes to 1995, so I don't think you'll find it useful... I believe the Schlow library has all of the CDT on microfiche if you know what dates you're looking for.">> ************************ "Where To Go & Place Names of Centre Co. PA." written by Paul M. DUBBS, was published in June of 1961. The contents of the book were taken from artices printed in The Centre Daily Times from 1959 through 1960. Mr. DUBBS stated, in the book, that time & printing space limited what was actually published. Does this mean that there is MORE gen-info in the original articles?...or might there be additional info NOT printed in the original articles? If anyone who has access to the SCHLOW Library (State College, PA.) is interested...and has some time on their hands, they can sift through the CDT original articles to see if there are more names than those, from the book, that I have posted at my site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~paroth/MATERNAL/PlaceNames-Surnames.html As I live 3 & 1/2 hours away, I don't see that I can make the trip and spend the time needed to compile any additional data from the CDT articles any time soon...though I AM interested in doing so. Regards, Paul

Mary. I was sorry to hear of the death of your husband, Bill. May God bless and be with you in this, your time of greatest need. My husband died a year ago and I know that you will never completely move beyond it. However, as the days pass, you will start to think of the happy times you had together and the sad times will be less imposing. It will ease you to surround yourself with loving and compassionate family members and friends and to try to busy yourself with things you used to love to do. Eventually, you will begin to enjoy life again. And, above all, prayer is very healing. Don't let anyone tell you that you will get over it, because you won't. You can and will eventually go on with your life and maybe even marry again, but you will never get over it. May God bless you. Linda

Listers: I hate to start a feeding frenzy but have watched with interest at all of those who are seeking a copy of the Where to Go book. Well, your dream (or nightmare if you lose) may be soon realized, as the item is now for sale on EBAY. It is at the following link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1082360981 You have 3-days and 12 hours to bid as of the moment I type this. FYI, I purchased a copy on EBAY not too long ago, so you might want to email the seller and see if he/she has additional copies. I'd pursue that option before I'd recommend anyone get into a bidding war and pay an outrageous amount for this book. You can also watch "www.abebooks.com", which has a great selection of out of print books, or even www.bn.com (barnes and noble), in its "out of print" section. FYI2, I search EBAY weekly (titles and descriptions) for "centre county", and often find interesting stuff. It's amazing what's out there for sale. Good luck to all. Doug Bierly St. Louis, MO Born in Bellefonte, Pa

Hi: Although I agree that the 1880 CDs are only a tool, I found that by using asterisks in place of letters, I found several families I would not have found except by going through a whole county on microfilm. If someone has an unusual given name, you can search using that only. Where else can you search by a child's name? I have not had any trouble using the disks except one that was scratched which was replaced, no charge. I found my husband's grandfather and siblings living with their mother and stepfather (all older children/adults) but with the stepfather's surname---which they never used. I found my grandfather "working out" as was his twin brother but with another family. Maybe others follow genealogy rules more than I do, but there were quite a few family members where I had not looked at the 1880 census at all since I had their birth, death and marriage records plus other censuses. This new tool added quite a bit of "meat to the bones" in my genealogy, i.e., new occupations, other relatives living with the family, etc. etc. This purchase was a real bargain! Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Seyler" <ropetracer@prodigy.net> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 7:45 AM Subject: [PACENTRE] 1880 Census > > There are several copies of the LDS 1880 census index at the > National Archives, SE Branch, and although it can be useful in > some cases, overall, we have had a good deal of trouble using > it. > > As stated below, names are not listed that are recorded on the > census sheets, many many errs in spelling, in some cases pretty > far removed from what it should be. We have also experienced > disks that will not run either intermittenly or one that never > would run. > > Like anything else you use in your genealogy quest ... you still > need to verify and document your data. > > Happy hunting! > Barb > > > > > >As the web site shows, there are problems using these disks. > I had problems > >finding people on these disks in the counties in which I had > earlier seen > >them on the census for 1880. Also, since the names are transcribed, > they can > >be highly inaccurate. > > > > "Remember me in the family tree -- my name, my days, my strife; > Then I'll ride upon the wings of time and live an endless life." > (Goetsch) > > > > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > The first permanent settler of Centre County was Andrew Boggs, in 1769. >

I think the 1880 CDs were the greatest thing to be published in 2001---by far! Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sholder, Kevin L" <KS100004@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:55 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] RE: 1880 Census w/comments > Dear Friends, > > I have had so many questions about this e-mail that it was easier to setup a > page for you to review for yourself. Please see the following url for > additional information about the 1880 census that is produced by the Church > of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, including some screen shots. > > <http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/HTML/WhatsNew.html > <http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/HTML/WhatsNew.html> > > > Thanks, > Kevin > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sholder, Kevin L > > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:12 AM > > Subject: 1880 Census > > > > All, > > > > I don't usually send these types of messages but thought it was to > > important not to. > > > > If you don't already know the entire 1880 census is available through the > > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for $49.99. I just purchased > > it and it is wonderful to have the entire census at my finger tips. Just > > go to <http://www.familysearch.org <http://www.familysearch.org> > and > > choose "Order / Download Products" from there it should be easy to find. > > > > Good Luck, > > Kevin L. Sholder > > rdrunner@siscom.net > > > > Don't wait to make your Son a great man. Make him a great boy. > > --Unknown > > > > http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/ <http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/> > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rdrunner/ > > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rdrunner/> > > > > kevin.sholder@ncr.com > > > > LOCATIONS THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Pennsylvania (Berks, Centre, Clinton, > > Lycoming, Sullivan, Northumberland Counties); Germany (Württemberg). > > > > SURNAMES THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Aderhold; Alexander; Bower; Campbell; > > Carpenter; Cohick; DeRemer; Hafer; Heim; Horn; Kiess; Kinley; Lovell; > > Mahaffey; Marquardt; Marshall; Metzger; Paulhamus (Polhemius); Pepperman; > > Rentz; Robinson; Roller; Sholder (Scholderer); Smith; Springman; Stabler; > > Stoltz; Ulmer; Updegraff (Op den Graeff); Waltz (Walz); Wurster (Wurster > > Von Igelsberg) and their related family lines. > > > > > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > Ideas for new projects to get Centre County data online? E-mail the listowner! Also visit our Centre Co. GenWeb archives page: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/pa/centrez.html >

What I most like about this 1880 census is the search capability. These CDs are designed to be searched many ways-- You can of course search by first name, last name. You can search by last name You can search by last name, and birth year. You can search by first name, birth year. If one of your ancestors has a very unusual first name, do a search by first name only and you may get results. You can narrow down any search if you know the county. If you know the town or township you can narrow it down even further plus by clicking on neighbors you can see everyone who resided in that town/township. You can search by birth year and county using NO names. I entered the year 1810, clicked on female, and clicked on Centre. And here's some of the results: FERRAR, Sarah Wife <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Harris FETZER, Mary Mother <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Boggs FIEDLER, Anna Mother <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Miles FLICK, Sarah MotherL <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Worth FOX, Annie Sister <1810> F W Bir: IREL Cen: PA Centre Bellefonte FRANTZ, Mary Wife <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Worth FUNK, Susanna Wife <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre MountEagle GALLAGHER, Mary Mother <1810> F W Bir: IREL Cen: PA Centre Howard GARRETT, Elizabeth Wife <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Bellefonte GOODHART, Martheu Wife <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Gregg GORMERY, Mary Wife <1810> F W Bir: IREL Cen: PA Centre Boggs HASTINGS, Mary MotherL <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Taylor HERSHBERGER, Catherine Other <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Bllefonte HUCKHILL, Margaret Mother <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre College IMBODEN, Frances Self <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Phillipsbu JAMES, Mary Mother <1810> F W Bir: ENGL Cen: PA Centre Rush KREPS, Catharine Mother <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Ferguson LEEBRECH, Lucy Other <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Huston LERBY, Annie C. Mother <1810> F W Bir: PA Cen: PA Centre Potter You can search by birth year only -- enter a year, and then set the *year range* to 0. You can search by county -- just click on Centre and hit search. You can search by township/town-- click on Centre, click on Curtin or Bellefonte, or Rush, etc. etc. etc., and hit search Using the National Index, which is comprised of 20 CDs, allows you to search all the states and territories for your ancestors. Regards, Barbara

Luann, > Can anyone help me with these questions: > -- what census E.D. would I check for someone who lived "near Rock Iron > Works"??? Prior to 1853 Rock Iron Works was in the western part of Spring Township; from 1853 forward, however, it became Benner Township. He probably lived on the old Spring Creek Road -- that area is now all owned by the State Correctional Institution at Rockview. > -- the phrase "he had been in town" -- does that refer to Bellefonte? Yes. Bellefonte was the *major* town, county seat, and home of the Centre Democrat from 1827 to 1989. (It was also founded by Philip Benner, who founded Rock Iron Works and for whom Benner Township was named.) -- any idea where I might look for a marriage record for John +Nancy (first > > child Robert A. Roach born June, 1838...Nancy was born 1820; have no birth > date for John) Check the lists compiled by Gladys Murray and Harold O. Thomen for Centre County Marriages 1800 to 1850. They are in the Bellefonte library and perhaps some list member who has the books can do a look-up. It is important to note that prior to 1885 there was no requirement for registration of marriages (except from 1852 to 1855). Thus, we are dependent upon newspaper articles, J.P. records, church books, etc., to compile these marriage books. > -- the 1840 Federal census index for Patten Twp (where in Blair is that?) > lists > a John Roach on page 186. Does anybody have access to that census??? > > Patton Township was founded about 1794 and named for Col. John Patton. It is just west of Benner Township in the scheme of things (and would have bordered Spring prior to 1853, when Benner was formed). Occasionally the line between Patton and Benner/Spring was confused in early years, it seems, so this could well be your person. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Would someone please be so kind as to repeat the source for the CD of the 1880 census that you are all talking about? Thank you in advance.

Hi I have been using the 1880 census CD-ROM since Christmas and love it. Because of the spelling variations, I have searched for people with given name, birth year and county and had a lot of luck finding families. For the families I have looked for, the transcriptions are very good. I have the 1880 census on microfilm, so can check that to verify. If anyone would like me to look up a family, I would be glad to. Suzanne Walkowiak Rice

God bless all of you who prayed for my husband, Bill. He passed away March 6th.

There are several copies of the LDS 1880 census index at the National Archives, SE Branch, and although it can be useful in some cases, overall, we have had a good deal of trouble using it. As stated below, names are not listed that are recorded on the census sheets, many many errs in spelling, in some cases pretty far removed from what it should be. We have also experienced disks that will not run either intermittenly or one that never would run. Like anything else you use in your genealogy quest ... you still need to verify and document your data. Happy hunting! Barb >As the web site shows, there are problems using these disks. I had problems >finding people on these disks in the counties in which I had earlier seen >them on the census for 1880. Also, since the names are transcribed, they can >be highly inaccurate. > "Remember me in the family tree -- my name, my days, my strife; Then I'll ride upon the wings of time and live an endless life." (Goetsch)

Dear Friends, I have had so many questions about this e-mail that it was easier to setup a page for you to review for yourself. Please see the following url for additional information about the 1880 census that is produced by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, including some screen shots. <http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/HTML/WhatsNew.html <http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/HTML/WhatsNew.html> > Thanks, Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: Sholder, Kevin L > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:12 AM > Subject: 1880 Census > > All, > > I don't usually send these types of messages but thought it was to > important not to. > > If you don't already know the entire 1880 census is available through the > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for $49.99. I just purchased > it and it is wonderful to have the entire census at my finger tips. Just > go to <http://www.familysearch.org <http://www.familysearch.org> > and > choose "Order / Download Products" from there it should be easy to find. > > Good Luck, > Kevin L. Sholder > rdrunner@siscom.net > > Don't wait to make your Son a great man. Make him a great boy. > --Unknown > > http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/ <http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rdrunner/ > <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rdrunner/> > > kevin.sholder@ncr.com > > LOCATIONS THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Pennsylvania (Berks, Centre, Clinton, > Lycoming, Sullivan, Northumberland Counties); Germany (Württemberg). > > SURNAMES THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Aderhold; Alexander; Bower; Campbell; > Carpenter; Cohick; DeRemer; Hafer; Heim; Horn; Kiess; Kinley; Lovell; > Mahaffey; Marquardt; Marshall; Metzger; Paulhamus (Polhemius); Pepperman; > Rentz; Robinson; Roller; Sholder (Scholderer); Smith; Springman; Stabler; > Stoltz; Ulmer; Updegraff (Op den Graeff); Waltz (Walz); Wurster (Wurster > Von Igelsberg) and their related family lines. > >

As the web site shows, there are problems using these disks. I had problems finding people on these disks in the counties in which I had earlier seen them on the census for 1880. Also, since the names are transcribed, they can be highly inaccurate. Unless you are very familiar with the names in the area as they are in the actual census who would ever think of looking under "Bloomcord" for "Brungard" as one example. However, I searched for the name Heckel and when I couldn't locate the party I was seeking, I keyed in "Heckle" and all sorts of related spellings came up. I found that to be valuable (but, alas, did not find the Heckel I was looking for!).. Like any other such disk, it is a tool and can be very helpful. Gloria Harbach > I have had so many questions about this e-mail that it was easier to setup a > page for you to review for yourself. Please see the following url for > additional information about the 1880 census that is produced by the Church > of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, including some screen shots. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sholder, Kevin L

Oops, in my queries I asked "where in Blair is Patten twp"... I meant to say, "where in Centre is Patten twp"? Sorry about that! Luann (DDuBarry@aol.com)

>From the Centre Democrat & Farmers Journal, 22 March 1848 SUDDEN DEATH Mr. John ROACH a resident of Spring township in this county, was found dead on the road between Bellefone and his residence near Rock Iron Works. He had been in town the evening before in perfect health. Appearances seemed to indicate that he had fallen down in a fit to which he was at times subject. --------------- List members--- I am trying to discover if this is "my" John ROACH (married Nancy EDMINSTON, and had children Robert A in 1838; Wilson L in 1840; Sarah E in 1843; James H in 1846; and Anna Bell in 1848/49 (my gggmother, who married John McMANAMY) Can anyone help me with these questions: -- what census E.D. would I check for someone who lived "near Rock Iron Works"??? -- the phrase "he had been in town" -- does that refer to Bellefonte? -- any idea where I might look for a marriage record for John +Nancy (first child Robert A. Roach born June, 1838...Nancy was born 1820; have no birth date for John) -- the 1840 Federal census index for Patten Twp (where in Blair is that?) lists a John Roach on page 186. Does anybody have access to that census??? Any leads/help appreciated! Luann (DDuBarry@aol.com)

Hello All, Here is the response from The Centre Daily Times abt. obtaining copies of "Where To Go...": <<From: IPoole@centredaily.com (Isaiah Poole) Date: Mon, Mar 11, 2002, 5:49pm (EST+1) To: Genzen1@webtv.net Subject: Where To Go & Place Names of Centre Co. I asked members of our editorial board if they were familiar with the material you were looking for. Unfortunately, while a couple of veterans are familiar with the book, we have no clue about where the extra material the book refers to might be. It might be part of the Dubbs estate at this point or dispersed through our archive files. In addition, we can't advise you on how to get additional copies of the book. State College Mayor Bill Welch, a former CDT editor, may be helpful. -- Isaiah J. Poole, Opinion Page Editor Centre Daily Times (814) 231-4637 ipoole@centredaily.com>> I asked for the Mayor's address or email address last night. Regards, Paul

Hello folks, The following was sent to me and I thought I'd share it with you. I have no vested interest in this sale. Found this on eBay this morning -- > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1082390059 > It's a scrapbook of clippings about deaths and tragic accidents from > Central PA during the 1940's and 1950's. Looks like some good genealogy > info in it. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, BAHS Class of 2003 Student Representative, BASD Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

In a message dated 03/11/2002 8:15:30 AM Central Standard Time, KS100004@exchange.DAYTONOH.NCR.com writes: << If you don't already know the entire 1880 census is available through the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for $49.99. I just purchased it and it is wonderful to have the entire census at my finger tips. Just go to <http://www.familysearch.org <http://www.familysearch.org> > and choose "Order / Download Products" from there it should be easy to find. >> ================ Kevin, Sounds like an excellent tool, indeed. Tell us what form it takes? CD-ROM, I presume. Is it photocopy of the original or is it a transcribed version? Index??? Fred Houts, Brooklyn Center MN

All, I don't usually send these types of messages but thought it was to important not to. If you don't already know the entire 1880 census is available through the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for $49.99. I just purchased it and it is wonderful to have the entire census at my finger tips. Just go to <http://www.familysearch.org <http://www.familysearch.org> > and choose "Order / Download Products" from there it should be easy to find. Good Luck, Kevin L. Sholder rdrunner@siscom.net Don't wait to make your Son a great man. Make him a great boy. --Unknown http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/ <http://www.siscom.net/~rdrunner/> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rdrunner/ <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rdrunner/> kevin.sholder@ncr.com LOCATIONS THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Pennsylvania (Berks, Centre, Clinton, Lycoming, Sullivan, Northumberland Counties); Germany (Württemberg). SURNAMES THAT I AM RESEARCHING - Aderhold; Alexander; Bower; Campbell; Carpenter; Cohick; DeRemer; Hafer; Heim; Horn; Kiess; Kinley; Lovell; Mahaffey; Marquardt; Marshall; Metzger; Paulhamus (Polhemius); Pepperman; Rentz; Robinson; Roller; Sholder (Scholderer); Smith; Springman; Stabler; Stoltz; Ulmer; Updegraff (Op den Graeff); Waltz (Walz); Wurster (Wurster Von Igelsberg) and their related family lines.