actually some of those doctor's records could be still with his family or donated to historical or genealogical societies. I have records for Dr. Peter McCauley Cook of Webster Mills, Ayr Twnshp, Fulton Co. in latter part of 1800s which I am currently scanning and will put on line. You might contact someone in the area where you are researching. There is sometimes a dirth of info at some of these small libraries. Lou Cook _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Has anyone heard about a Robb/Burke reunion during the 3rd week of July ??? A cousin ( a very senior one) called me but couldn't remember where or who to contact...... Anyone with any info pls contact me... Sabrina Marie Robb Ocala, Florida

Hi Folks; I have an interesting question for everyone. Have you ever wondered what happens to old doctors records? At one time in Philipsburg Pa., there was an old doctor Heaton who passed away in the late 1940's to early 1950's. Granted there are still people living that were seen by him as a child. However he was an old man when he passed away and probably had stopped seeing patients long prior to his death. At one time he was the doctor about town and may have been the only one at some period of time. Boy! What his records could tell us about our ancestors if we could find his records. Leah

Many thanks to all of you folks that responded. It looks like the conusees is that although the birth place looks like M S., it is actually U S. The person giving the information didn't know where his parents were born except in the U S. Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but that's the way this hobby goes. You learn a little and get disappointments in other ways. Thanks again Leah

Hi Sue, Thanks for the response. <Descendants of Jared B Kramer 1 Jared B KRAMER b: 08 August 1843 in Pennsylvania d: 21 July 1924 in Centre Co - burial in the Luth & Ref Cemetery - Rebersburg, Pennsylvania .. +Joanna MEYER b: 21 June 1847 in Pennsylvania m: 11 April 1869 in Centre Co Pennsylvania> This is definitely the right Kramer. The J.B Kreamer in 1880 was 36. His wife, Joanna was 32. That fits the information you sent. The 1880 Census shows three daughters: Mary age 10; Gertrude age 7; Ada age 3. There is also an Emanuel Confer, male, age 13, relationship OTHER, living with the family. It appears that both Mary Deobler and Emanuel Confer were boarding or working for the Kreamers. I think it was pretty common for children to be farmed our to other families during this time frame. Does anyone know how that worked? Were the children paid or were their parents compensated or was it simply some families had too many mouths to feed? I'm curious about the practice. Diana

Hi List, I have a ROBERT SHUNK, age 9, living with Henry Snavely and his wife Margaret in Penn Township in 1880. Robert is listed as Henry's nephew. Is anyone researching the name SHUNK or an alternate spelling? I'd like to know who Robert's parents might be. He has to be either Henry's sister's son, or from Margaret's side (I have no idea what her maiden name is). Known sister's of Henry Snavely are: Susan (died at age 12); Rebecca (married a Wingard); Sarah; Harriet (married an Immel); Catherine (married a Lamey); Mary; Rosetta (also called Hannah who married a Wingard). Sarah and Mary are the only unaccounted for sisters of Henry. Sarah was born in 1844 and Mary in 1847. Any information would be a big help! Diana Mason

Hi List, Is anyone working on Kreamers/Kramers in Miles Township? I have an 1880 census record for J.B. Kreamer and wife Joanna in Miles Township, and living with them is a Mary Deobler, relationship "Other", age 18. My great-grandmother, Mary Alice Doebler/Deibler, would have been about that age in 1880, and I think this could be her. Any information on this Kreamer family would be a blessing. Diana Mason

> I am in possession of a death certificate for a Mary Jane Vaughn who died in > South Philipsburg Center Co. Pa. in 1915. Family history tells me that her > name was Nancy Caroline Cushard Vaughn, and census records that I have seen > back this up. Everything else on this certificate matches other information > that I have. > This certificate says that her parents were Peter Cushard and (?)Horner, > and gives the place of their birth as M S. Is there anyone out there who > might know or have a guess as to where M S. might be? I have been told that > they might have came from Somerset Co. Pa. Thanks for any help. Leah >

Well, the identification of folks in the 1919 photo taken at Rhoneymead is progressing. We now have 9 individuals identified. Won't you take a look and see if you can identify additional people? See the photo along with the identification of some of the people, at: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ecoppe/Benner.html Ellen

Hi, Just browsing eBay and saw this book with geological map of Carbon Co. Thought someone might be interested: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1533243648 and some text from the listing: THERE ARE ALSO OTHER PIECES ADDED IN THE BOOK, ONE SMALL PIECE OF PAPER READS: MC KINLEYS DEATH SEPT 18, 1901 WEDNESDAY GERTRUDE L. ROCHESTER PA SEPT 18 1901 PRESIDENT MCKINLEY PASSED THROUGH ROCHESTER ON HIS DEATH PASSING TO CANTON WEDNESDAY SEPT 18 1901 MCKINLEYS DEATH. THER IS A SMALL SCRAP PIECE OF RED FABRIC, A MAGAZINE OR NEWSPAPER CIPPING: PRESIDENT M'KINLEY AT THE PAN-AMERICAN: PICTURES OF: THE PRESIDENT GIVING HIS SPEACH, THE PRESIDENT DELIVERING HIS ADDRESS, PRESIDENT MCKINLEY AND PARTY IN THE STADIUM, THE REVIEWING STAND IN THE STADIUM, A GENERAL VIEW OF THE STADIUM ON PRESIDENTS DAY, A GLIMPSE OF THE GOUNDS AND PRESISDENTS STAND. ON THE BACK IT HAS PICTURES AND DESCRIPTIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE. IN THE BIBLE I ALSO FOUND A MAP OF SECOND GEOLOGICAL SURVEY OF PENNSYLVANIA REPORT OF 1874'5 J.P. LESLEY STATE GEOLOGIST SECTION MADE ALONG THE LEHIGH RIVER IN CARBON COUNTY BY H. MARLYN CHANCE - ASS'T GEOLOGIST. HAS THE SCALRE OF FEET AND MILES, SHOWS BOWMANSVILLE. HAZARDVILL! E, RIVER LEVELS, DIFFERENT SHADING FOR DIFFERENT MEANINGS, KEY OF WHAT THE SHADINGS STAND FOR LIKE LIMESTONE, SHALE AND COLE, AND SANDSTONE AS WELL AS MANY MORE. ON THE BACK IT READS: SECTION MADE ALONG THE LEHIGH RIVER IN CARBON COUNTY Ge. MAP IS FROM 1882.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------701F2721B9F733CC16C2FE8D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karl and others, Like some of you, I am a direct descendant of Johann Adam STAMM and Elizabeth KEEN also, and I have attached the link to the STAMM Family on rootsweb message board. I was born and raised in Berrien Co, MI. All the names in the "Subject line" can be found in Berrien Co, MI. ==> They all came from Centre Co, PA. I think you will find some of your answers here but you will also have may more questions than when you started and I guess that is what genealogy is all about. Best regards, Scott Kater - In Appleton, WI --------------701F2721B9F733CC16C2FE8D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <STAMM-D-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from lists7.rootsweb.com ([63.92.80.56]) by mtiwgwc22.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020414050126.GZSS1708.mtiwgwc22.worldnet.att.net@lists7.rootsweb.com> for <scott.kater@worldnet.att.net>; Sun, 14 Apr 2002 05:01:26 +0000 Received: (from slist@localhost) by lists7.rootsweb.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) id g3E515c10487; Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:01:05 -0600 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 23:01:05 -0600 Message-Id: <200204140501.g3E515c10487@lists7.rootsweb.com> From: STAMM-D-request@rootsweb.com Subject: STAMM-D Digest V02 #11 X-Loop: STAMM-D@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <STAMM-D@rootsweb.com> archive/volume02/11 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: STAMM-D@rootsweb.com Reply-To: STAMM-L@rootsweb.com X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain STAMM-D Digest Volume 02 : Issue 11 Today's Topics: #1 Re: The Stemm Family History [ravinson@earthlink.net] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from STAMM-D, send a message to STAMM-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the list administrator, send mail to STAMM-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ ------------------------------ X-Message: #1 Date: 13 Apr 2002 04:43:49 -0600 From: ravinson@earthlink.net To: STAMM-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <MFMBM002LHMc1TMLFdx00034d16@mfmbm002.myfamilycorp.local> Subject: Re: The Stemm Family History Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Stemm, Stamm, Stem, Spangler Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kIJBAEB/157.3 Message Board Post: I have read your Stemm Family history postings with great interest. It appears that you are my 5th cousin once removed and are probably related to me also by several marriage(s) involving a Stemm (aka Stamm, Stem) and a Spangler. Catherine Lydia Stamm (Stemm) Spangler [daughter of Johann(as) Adam Stamm] was my ggggrandmother (my father's father's mother's father's mother). She apparently had 14 children (one of whom was my gggrandfather, Samuel Spangler, who served with two of his brothers in a Civil War artillery unit.) Additionally, Catherine Stamm Spangler's brother-in-law (her husband John George Spangler's brother George) married Lydia Ann Stem(m), who was the daugther of a "Nicholas Stem, Jr." All of these folks were from Centre County, PA, and are included in the Spangler Family Genealogy page -- http://www.spanglers.info -- thus, I presume that "Nicholas Stem Jr." is the son of Nicholas Stamm and Catherine Lerch and the brother of Johann Adam Stamm, which would mean that the Spangler brothers referenced above married Stemm/Stamm/Stem cousins. To further entangle the Stamms and Spanglers, Peter S. Spangler, the father of the referenced Spangler brothers, married Catherine Fengel Stem (the widow of Nicholas Jr.), after they had both lost their original spouses. The reference in your Stemm Family history to yet another Stamm/Spangler marriage has me rather baffled, but perhaps you or someone else can clear up the confusion. Your Stemm family history refers to a daughter of Johann Adam Stamm who married a George Spangler from Lockport, IL and states that she died young without any children, though George later remarried and had children named Agnes, Mary, Elmer and Howard. According to the Spanglers.info website, the George Spangler I referred to above (who married Lydia Ann Stem) had two children named Catharine and George, and Lydia died at the age of 79, so I doubt they are the couple referenced in your Stamm Family history. On the other hand, my gggrandfather Samuel Spangler had a brother named George Franklyn Spangler who had children named Agnes, Mary, Elmer and Howard (as well as others) and was a resident of Lockport, IL from at least 1878 until his death in 1897. Since his mother (Catherine Stamm Spangler) was Adam Stamm's sister, it would be easy to see how a 1952 history would make that kind of mistake. His wife was named Catherine Kopp and has a long and productive life, however, so I'm still confused about the reference to someone dying young without children. There is another scenario which may explain this situation. The IL marriage records (searchable at http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/genealogy/marrsrch.html ) show a 1849 Will County marriage of a Sarah Spangler to an Isaac E. Spangler. The 1850 Census records for Will County, IL (searchable at http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilwill/1850census.htm ) show a newborn child named Agnes living with a 22 year old Sarah Spangler and a 25 year old Isaac E. Spangler in Lockport, Will Co., IL, who are natives of PA. Since (a) this Lockport, IL Sarah Spangler has the same birth year as the Sarah Spangler referred to on the Spanglers.info website as being one of the 14 children of John George and Catherine Stamm Spangler, and (b) Sarah is the only family member not shown on the 1850 Census records in neighboring Plainfield, IL with her parents and the other 11 children born before 1850, I would presume that she was indeed born Sarah Spangler (as the IL Mariage records s! uggest) and perhaps married a distant cousin (no such Isaac is found on the Spanglers.info website so I can't say what their exact kinship was). Interestingly, there is no death date, burial information, marriage info, or children listed for Sarah on the Spanglers.info website, which suggests to me that she died very young (i.e. before any of her Illinois family members) and was probably buried near her husband's Lockport home. It may be that your Stemm Family history confuses Sarah Spangler Spangler with the Sarah Stemm who was one of the otherwise unaccounted for sisters of Adam (et al.) Stemm. It is also conceivable that there never was a Sarah Spangler in the John George and Catherine Stamm Spangler family and that the Sarah Spangler from Lockport,IL was Johann Stamm's daughter and your family history is correct (except for confusing George with Isaac). Given the apparently limited number of potential spouses in Centre County, it may even be the case that Sarah Stamm was originally married to a George Spangler and later married (his brother/cousin?) Isaac when George died. Or perhaps (a) Isaac Spangler was Sarah Stamm's first husband, (b) Isaac was confused with Sarah's Stamm's brother-in-law John George Spangler or her cousin-in-law George in your Stamm Family history, and (c) the IL marriage records were filled out or transcribed wrong. Maybe you or someone out there can shed some light on the mystery of Sarah whomever-she-really-was Spangler. It sounds like a fascinating story no matter what really happened. In any event, thanks for the great info on the Stamm line, Cousin Scott. -------------------------------- End of STAMM-D Digest V02 Issue #11 *********************************** --------------701F2721B9F733CC16C2FE8D--

Hi everyone. Recently someone told me that there was a diary for William Waring available, but I have been unable to locate it. Cound anyone who knows of this document please write me and let me know the info. again incase I got something wrong. Thanks, Renee Waring

New info on Boals Gap that I thought I'd share with the list. Boal's Gap is located in Potter Township near the Colyer Lake. It is back of Colyer up against Triester Mountain (the Seven Mountains region). The cemetery there is the Fruittown Cemetery, a little collection of about ten graves in the corner of a field. I suspect it is the remnant of an old United Evangelical congregation. The surrounding area is called Fruittown. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, Bellefonte Area HS Class of 2003 Student Representative, Bellefonte Area School District Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church (near Bellefonte, PA) "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Hello All, I am a descendent from families that had moved from Union and Centre Co. PA to Stephenson Co. IL. following is the chat room site for Stephenson Co. on Monday nights. I'm also a member to this list, Lou Cook another member sends this out every Sunday afternoon to all the list members. please join us for genealogy chat on Monday evenings at 8pm CST at > www.freeportillinois.com/index3.htm There is a link on the right side of > the front page of the site. It will take a minute to come up, then put in > your name and put your surnames in the profile. Lou Cook It has helped a lot going back and forth with the two counties. Just two weeks ago I posted a message on the Stephenson Co. board asking about information of a Minister. It turns out, the Minister was in Union Co. and the wedding took place before they left PA. The family history that I started out with was written In the early 1900'S by a Great Great Aunt when she was pretty old. There were several errors in it, But at least she gave me a start! My Surnames from Centre Co. are-SMULL, CONFER, EISENHAUER, HECKMAN Justine Larson

Karl and all, I really don't know of an exhaustive history of the families that migrated from Central PA to Stephenson Co., IL, but some of my own families went that route. It seems that the soils there very much resemble the limestone-based soils of Central PA. The terrain is similar (although less mountainous), the climate is not that different, etc. When one or two of them went out there, it seems they sent the word back here. Folks, believing there was a greater opportunity in that region, and knowing that their experience in Central PA would serve them well in the similar environment they would find there, moved from here to Illinois by the trainload. And that is mostly how they went. The greatest exodus occurred during the period after the Civil War until the early 1880s. People could catch one of the trains in Bellefonte, take it out to Pittsburgh, and from there travel west through Ohio and Indiana, into Illinois. Somewhere I have a map showing the train route that went almost directly into Chicago. It is for this reason that most of the folks who went there were able to keep in relatively close contact with kinfolk back here, and that oftentimes they would come back to visit PA every so often. Sometimes whole towns out there were transplants from Central Pennsylvania. One of the towns, it is rumored, has two intersecting streets called Centre and Clinton Streets, named after the two counties where many of the settlers came from. Most of the emigrants to the midwest settled in Stephenson County, Winnebago County, and Jo Daviess County in Illinois, and in Green County, Wisconsin. It would be wise to check all these counties for record of an ancestor. Every Monday night there is a chat room open for discussion of families that migrated from PA to the Northern IL/Southern WI region, that may be beneficial to you. I can't think of the website just now but when I see it again I'll pass it along to you all via this list. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, Bellefonte Area HS Class of 2003 Student Representative, Bellefonte Area School District Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church (near Bellefonte, PA) "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

Karl - I might add to Justin's excellent explanation of the migration to IL that sometimes an entire church congregation would make the move. While Centre County's terrain was beautiful for farm folks, these settlers had very large families and not enough land to give every son his own farm. Also, just as Centre Co beckoned its settlers to come there in the first place, so did IL and WI beckon these same people to go West. As the old saying goes - the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. One of my ancestors traveled from Centre Co to Erie by stagecoach, then across the lake to Detroit where he boarded a train to Michigan City and from there took a stagecoach to Freeport, IL in 1847. When his first wife died in 1865 in IL he apparently took a train to Sugar Valley where he married a widow in 1866 and took her to his home in IL. Gloria Harbach > I think we're once again looking at another family line who came to Centre > Co from east of the Susquehanna, in thsi case from well east of the > Susquehanna in Berks Co. PA, and whose family moved on to Stephenson Co. IL. > Does anyone know of a dependable and "complete" -- yeah, I know, that's > pretty hopeful!! :-) -- study in print of the migration from Centre Co. > to Stephenson Co.? Why so specifically from Centre Co. to Stephenson Co., > both by Scottish familes such as Askey and by Pa. German famillies such as > Stamm, Hockman, Swartz, Moyer, etc.? LOTS of families did it, including > various lines of my own, and if I can ever get into print some day, this > topic will become an important part of it!!

I'd love an answer to that question myself! Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:44 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] Current status of GEORGE AND (MARY) PRICE STAMM research > Below is my current work status in the George and Mary (Price) Stamm Family > ancestors of Sarah Maud (Stamm), mar. to Ammon Smith) Moyer of Stephenson > Co IL > > I would be most grateful for corrections to errors that might be here and > additional information. > > I think we're once again looking at another family line who came to Centre > Co from east of the Susquehanna, in thsi case from well east of the > Susquehanna in Berks Co. PA, and whose family moved on to Stephenson Co. IL. > Does anyone know of a dependable and "complete" -- yeah, I know, that's > pretty hopeful!! :-) -- study in print of the migration from Centre Co. > to Stephenson Co.? Why so specifically from Centre Co. to Stephenson Co., > both by Scottish familes such as Askey and by Pa. German famillies such as > Stamm, Hockman, Swartz, Moyer, etc.? LOTS of families did it, including > various lines of my own, and if I can ever get into print some day, this > topic will become an important part of it!! > > My warm and abundant thanks to various folks who have posted information on > this STAMM family search. > > Adam Stamm ( - ), native of Berks Co; moved to "Tussey sink," (along > Sinking Spring Creek, near Tusseyville, Centre Co PA). > Married to Elizabeth KEEN > 14 children: 5 boys, 9 girls > > GEORGE STAMM (2 July 1808, Tussey sink near Tusseyville, Centre Co PA < 13 > Apr 1871, > Stephenson Co IL) > Married on 4 Oct 1832 by Rev. Peter S. Fisher, German Ref. minister in > Centre Co, to > MARY PRICE ( - 1889), dau of Jacob Price (Preiss)of Centre Co (d. ca. > 1847 ) and Sophia _____. > Moved to McAlevy Ft, Huntingdon Co PA after marriage (1832), then to > Rebecca Forge in 1854, then to > Berrien Co MI in 1855; and to farm 3/4 mi east of Mcconnell's Grove, > Stephenson Co. IL, as of 18 Mar > 1856. All children moved to IL with him except Catherine. > > Children: > > 1. Elizabeth (m. JacobWittenmeyer); lived: Cedarville, Stephenson Co IL; > 5 sons, 2 daughters > > 2. Catherine (m. Elias Musser in 1853; lived: Huntingdon PA; 4 sons, 3 > daughters. > > 3. David (m. Maggie Meyers of Centre Co in 1871); lived: Waddams Twp, > Stephenson Co. IL.; 3 sons & 2 > daughters. > > 4. Adam F. (8 Feb 1810, Centre Co - ) married 4 Nov 1866 to Leah > Stamm; lived: McConnell IL; no children. > Commissioner of higheways. > > 5. Isaac Stamm (m Susan Phillips of _______ in 1873); lived: Waddams > Twp, Stephenson Co; 4 boys and 6 > daughters > > daughter: Sarah Maud Stamm (16 Jan 1883, McConnell - 30 May 1972, > ???; bur. > Chapel Hill Cem., Freeport IL; married to Ammon Smith Moyer. > > 6. Sarah Stamm (m. Charles McNutt in 1865); lived: Barton Co KS.; > (another source says they lived at Dalllis > Co. IA); four daughters. > > 7. Jonathan Musser Stamm (27 May 1851, Potter's Twp, Huntingdon Co PA - > 25 Feb 1940, likely in IL); > (m. Elizabeth Masters [12 Jan 1849, Ringold MD - 11 Sept 1931, where? > ] in 1879); lived McConnell IL; > 2 sons & 2 daughters. > > Children: > a. Charles Winfield Stamm (1 Jan 1881, McConnell IL - 30 Dec > 1970, Monroe WI) > b. Arthur Barton Stamm (19 Feb 1882, McConnell IL - 16 Jul 1885) > c. Katherine Rosa Stamm (1884, McConnell IL - 5 Sept 1939) > d. Pearl Elsie Stamm (20 Aug 1887 - 9 Jan 1970, Freeport IL) > > 8. Jacob W. Stamm (m. Anna Herbrand, b. in Germany in 1880); lived: > McConnell IL; > 4 daughters. Town clerk for 10 years. > > 9. one more, unknown > > Ira Stamm (brother of George): moved to Berrien Springs MI ca. 1868. > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > Much info which has been posted on the list already may be found in the PACENTRE Archives. View them at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Below is my current work status in the George and Mary (Price) Stamm Family ancestors of Sarah Maud (Stamm), mar. to Ammon Smith) Moyer of Stephenson Co IL I would be most grateful for corrections to errors that might be here and additional information. I think we're once again looking at another family line who came to Centre Co from east of the Susquehanna, in thsi case from well east of the Susquehanna in Berks Co. PA, and whose family moved on to Stephenson Co. IL. Does anyone know of a dependable and "complete" -- yeah, I know, that's pretty hopeful!! :-) -- study in print of the migration from Centre Co. to Stephenson Co.? Why so specifically from Centre Co. to Stephenson Co., both by Scottish familes such as Askey and by Pa. German famillies such as Stamm, Hockman, Swartz, Moyer, etc.? LOTS of families did it, including various lines of my own, and if I can ever get into print some day, this topic will become an important part of it!! My warm and abundant thanks to various folks who have posted information on this STAMM family search. Adam Stamm ( - ), native of Berks Co; moved to "Tussey sink," (along Sinking Spring Creek, near Tusseyville, Centre Co PA). Married to Elizabeth KEEN 14 children: 5 boys, 9 girls GEORGE STAMM (2 July 1808, Tussey sink near Tusseyville, Centre Co PA ‹ 13 Apr 1871, Stephenson Co IL) Married on 4 Oct 1832 by Rev. Peter S. Fisher, German Ref. minister in Centre Co, to MARY PRICE ( - 1889), dau of Jacob Price (Preiss)of Centre Co (d. ca. 1847 ) and Sophia _____. Moved to McAlevy Ft, Huntingdon Co PA after marriage (1832), then to Rebecca Forge in 1854, then to Berrien Co MI in 1855; and to farm 3/4 mi east of Mcconnell's Grove, Stephenson Co. IL, as of 18 Mar 1856. All children moved to IL with him except Catherine. Children: 1. Elizabeth (m. JacobWittenmeyer); lived: Cedarville, Stephenson Co IL; 5 sons, 2 daughters 2. Catherine (m. Elias Musser in 1853; lived: Huntingdon PA; 4 sons, 3 daughters. 3. David (m. Maggie Meyers of Centre Co in 1871); lived: Waddams Twp, Stephenson Co. IL.; 3 sons & 2 daughters. 4. Adam F. (8 Feb 1810, Centre Co - ) married 4 Nov 1866 to Leah Stamm; lived: McConnell IL; no children. Commissioner of higheways. 5. Isaac Stamm (m Susan Phillips of _______ in 1873); lived: Waddams Twp, Stephenson Co; 4 boys and 6 daughters daughter: Sarah Maud Stamm (16 Jan 1883, McConnell - 30 May 1972, ???; bur. Chapel Hill Cem., Freeport IL; married to Ammon Smith Moyer. 6. Sarah Stamm (m. Charles McNutt in 1865); lived: Barton Co KS.; (another source says they lived at Dalllis Co. IA); four daughters. 7. Jonathan Musser Stamm (27 May 1851, Potter's Twp, Huntingdon Co PA - 25 Feb 1940, likely in IL); (m. Elizabeth Masters [12 Jan 1849, Ringold MD - 11 Sept 1931, where? ] in 1879); lived McConnell IL; 2 sons & 2 daughters. Children: a. Charles Winfield Stamm (1 Jan 1881, McConnell IL - 30 Dec 1970, Monroe WI) b. Arthur Barton Stamm (19 Feb 1882, McConnell IL - 16 Jul 1885) c. Katherine Rosa Stamm (1884, McConnell IL - 5 Sept 1939) d. Pearl Elsie Stamm (20 Aug 1887 - 9 Jan 1970, Freeport IL) 8. Jacob W. Stamm (m. Anna Herbrand, b. in Germany in 1880); lived: McConnell IL; 4 daughters. Town clerk for 10 years. 9. one more, unknown Ira Stamm (brother of George): moved to Berrien Springs MI ca. 1868.

Karl, If you can tell me the name of the person, where they died, etc., I may be able to help you with the Boals Gap one. Tussey Sink is another name for that region around Tusseyville in Potter Township. The creek that runs through the area is called Sinking Creek. I know that many things in the area -- including Tussey Mountain -- were named for an early family by that name, of whom almost every trace and record is gone; yet, their name is perpetuated by the countless locales and landmarks which are called by it even today. > 1. "...buried Sunday in the new Cem. at Boals Gap..." as reported in a 5 > Feb 1903 newspaper. > Where is "Boals Gap" and what "new" -- as of 1903 -- cemetery might be > referenced here? > > 2. I see a number of references to Tussey sink, with _sink_ never > capitalized. Is that Tusseyville or some other place? Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist/Researcher of Central PA and Beyond Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, Bellefonte Area HS Class of 2003 Student Representative, Bellefonte Area School District Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church (near Bellefonte, PA) "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

I'm seeing two separate references to persons named KEEN: 1. Catherine Keen (b. 10 Dec 1801; I have no death date or or location for either the birth or death); married Michael Hockman, for whom I have conflicting birth dates: either 1810 or according to someone else 23 Nov 1799; this couple lived in the house now owned by an Amishman at Spring Bank, east side of PA Rt 445 as just north of the gap between Penns Valley and Brush Valley. Their son Daniel Hockman (12 Oct 1830, Brush Valley - 24 Aug 1910, WaKeeney KS, bur. at Horton KS) and his wife Nancy (Moyer) Hockman named their 4th child Michael Keen Hockman, born in Stephenson Co IL but later moved with parents to Horton KS). So this Keen name made it to Kansas. 2. Elizabeth Keen and husband Adam Stamm of "Tussey sink" had 14 children, of whom the 5th George Stamm was born at Tussey sink 2 July 1808. So this Keen woman might have been born ca. 1775 - 1785. Any info on her? Is it possible that Catherine #1 (above) was the daughter of a brother of Elizabeth (#2 above)? Does anyone perhaps have a good chart, etc., of the Keen family of Centre Co????? Thanx. Cordially, Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA