I copied these on Sunday at the Clearfield County historical society. Only one of any current use to me. If you would like a copy of one, please let me know. Judy Bryan P. Watson, d. 8-8-1986 age 28, son of Robert and Mary Anne Moore Watson, spouse of Earline W. Matis. Miss Minnie Watson of Clearfield, d. 9-4- ?? daughter of James E. Watson, sister of Emma and Harry S. Elizabeth Ogden Watson (1844-1934) dau of Abraham and Hester Kline Ogden, widow of William Wesley Watson. Vinnie Watson age 88, d. 11-24-1964 dau of Edward and Anna Haines Lewis, widow of Theodore C. (Dode) Watson. Norman R. Watson, b. 1-10-1906, d. 8-21 1971 in Seoul, Korea, son of Theodore (Dade) and Vinnie Lewis Watson. John L. Watson b. 6 25 1905, d. 3-18-1972 son of Charles Doyle Watson and Etta Livingston Watson. Ray Watson, b. 3-3-1891, d. 3-16-1972, son of James and Emma Graham Watson, widow of Helen Rich Watson. Theodore C. Watson (Dode) b. 11-10-1875, d. 10-22-1959 (?), widow of Vinnie Lewis Watson, son of Nelson and Rachel White Watson. Anna Mae Watson, b. 3-4-1875, d. 7-7-1931, wife of Walter T. Watson, sister of Theodore Smith, Alonzo Smith, Jennie Smith and Mrs. Alonzo Henry. Howe B. Watson, b. 3-25-1922, d. 7-14-1986, son of Charles D. and Effie Livingston Watson, husband of Anna Tiberio Watson. Harry Watson, age 46, d. 12-5-1918, son of James Watson, husband of Alice Robins Watson. Kenneth Watson, age 63, d. 10-4-1985, son of Cyrus and Ida Williams Watson, husband of Jane McDonald Watson. Senior Major Leslie Watson, d. 8-6-1960. no relatives mentioned! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Judith Walter Heald jwh6@psu.edu 406 Upper Georges Valley Road, Spring Mills, PA 16875 Our roots include: Lots of Quakers from 1600's to present. . . Surnames: Barnard, Dickson, Ely, Heald, Hilaman, Hoopes, Kirk, Kline, Lippincott, Marshall, Mercer, Moore, Ogden, Paxson, Plankinton, Pownall, Pusey, Pyle, Rodgers, Sellers, Sharpless, Swayne, Taylor, Thompson, Walter, Watson, Way, Webb, Wickersham. . . PA Counties, Chester, Delaware, Lancaster, Bucks, Centre, Clearfield, Jefferson, Elk, . . .

>From the USGenWeb "[Daily-Uploads] New Files, 19-20 Aug 2002". Please note: I am NOT related, NOR do I have any further information about this surname or the site. Marybeth Corrigall ============ << http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/pa/cambria/military/civilwar/pensions/sar louis-a.txt >>

Janet, I apologize! I was in Clearfield County Historical Library yesterday and saw some Culbertson/Watson information and was thinking we already had that in our joint possessions! That library is only open 3 hours on Sunday and 3 hours on Thursday, and it takes me about 1 1/2 hours to drive there, so it's not an easy place to collect information. Work fast, make copies and read later!!! I do think that Chris Watson (not my line supposedly) who works there part time would be glad to make a copy. Only way I know of to contact him is through the Clearfield County web page??? There was some Watson Graham data there also and it did not look new to me either. I did copy several obits and will share those with our Centre/Clearfield Watson researchers. Judy -----Original Message----- From: jwatson [mailto:jewatson@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 7:51 PM To: PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACENTRE] WATSON/CULBERTSON Looking for information about James Watson, Jr. born 1783, died February 8, 1857 buried BranchCemetery; married Nancy Culbertson in 1810. Nancy was born June 24, 1790 and died June 9, 1825. The family lived in Centre County. I would like any information, but particulary information about children. Can anyone help? ______________________________

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In a message dated 08/18/2002 12:58:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jewatson@attbi.com writes: > I am also looking for marriage information for Hattie Watson, who was the > youngest child, probably born after 1804 so possibly married around 1824 or > so. Is Hattie a nickname for Harriet? > > Hi I found a HATTIE WATSON in the 1874 - 1885 marriage book in Centre Co. 1883 July 3, 1883 - Albert Franklin LANDIS s/o Harry LANDIS of Bellefonte and Hattie WATSON of Pine Glen, married by Rev. W. O. WRIGHT at Presb. Parsonage at Milesburg Ref. Source: Democratic Watchman 7/13 Jean

In a message dated 08/18/2002 12:58:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jewatson@attbi.com writes: > I am also looking for marriage information for Hattie Watson, who was the > youngest child, probably born after 1804 so possibly married around 1824 or > so. Is Hattie a nickname for Harriet? Hi Janet There is no "Hattie" listed under Watson for marriages 1800 - 1850 in the book for Centre Co. but there are these listings in that time frame: 1825 June 2, 1825 - William REED and Susan WATSON (no residences listed) married by Rev. James LINN Ref. source: Historical Journal & James V. Brown Mem. Library 1827 Feb. 22, 1827 - William SMYTH of Walker Twp and Margaret WATSON of Lamar Twp, married by Rev. James LINN Ref. source: James V. Brown Memorial Library. Williamsport, Pa 1829 Jan. 21, 1829 - Henry SHULTZ of Walker Twp., and Sarah WATSON (*"Sally" in James V. Brown Mem. Library under SHULTZ), of Lamar Twp., married by Rev. James LINN Ref. Source: Historical Journal and James V. Brown Mem. Library 1845 June 17, 1845 - Capt. JOHN WATSON of Huntingdon Co. and Caroline GREEN of Milesburg, married by J. G. MILES Ref. Source: Democratic Whig 6/18 (this could be the son of your John Watson - have you checked in Huntingdon Co?) Under Wills of Centre Co. - Book A WATSON, JAMES - late of Potter Twp. Will dated July 17, 1820; prob. May 23, 1822 Wife Agnes; Children: Robert, Joseph (not 21), 2 youngest daus. are: Eleanor and Hetty. Youngest ch: Elizabeth RIDDLE, Robert WATSON, Jos., Elanor, Hetty WATSON, Hannah CAMPBELL and son James WATSON CAMPBELL, Elizabeth's, Eleanor's and Hetty's ch. My eldest sons: John, Thomas, William, James, Sol. 2 oldest Daus: Agnes IRVIN and Margret JOHNSTON. Exr: wife and son Robert no Wits given Page 165 WATSON, JANE - late of Halfmoon Twp. Will dated Feb. 15, 1839; prob. July 27, 1839. Wife of Thos. WATSON. He deceased. No executor named. Wits: Wm. ADDLEMAN, John THOMPSON. Also mentioned dau. Jane WASSON, grson Christopher MARKS. Page 133 There is a marriage listing in 1813, May 13 - John CAMPBELL and Hannah WATSON (no residences listed) married by Rev. William STUART Ref. Source: Pattee Library at Penn State University. This could be the same Hannah listed in James Watson's Will above. Hope this helps! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

Janet, Since there was a will he probably owned property. You will want to search the old Centre County deeds to see if the heirs signed off at a later point to relinquish claim to the land in favor of one of them, or perhaps selling it to some other person. In that manner you will find out where they were living, most likely, and the husbands of the daughters. You also will want to look at everything filed with the will. In Centre Co. each estate is in its own envelopes with lots of accounts, receipts, petitions, etc. You may find that John or Hattie signed a receipt and put their town of residence at the top, and dated it, when they got their share. Also a petition filed to move along the estate may list all the survivors, who they married, and where they were living at the time. Hattie is definitely a nickname for Harriet. I have seen Hattie, Hettie, and even Hal as nicknames for Harriet in the 1800s; also for Henrietta. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist and Historian of Central PA and Beyond View my homepage: http://members.aol.com/JKHouser84/index.htm Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, Bellefonte Area HS Class of 2003 Student Representative, Bellefonte Area School District Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church (near Bellefonte, PA) "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"

After reading my message, I see that I neglected to include that John is the son of James Watson of Centre County. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jwatson" <jewatson@attbi.com> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 9:11 AM Subject: [PACENTRE] Need Advice > HI All - I continue to research my Watson line and now have information on all but two of my ancestors children. I have linked up with a few other people who are also researching their Watson ancestors and we are trying to get complete information about all the Watson lines in Centre County and surrounding areas hoping that we can straighten out all the James, Thomas, Johns, and Williams once and for all. > > I am looking for information on a son John born about 1774 and mentioned in his fathers will in 1822, so I presume he was still alive. I do not have a copy of the will -- just some notes that someone made. Several people in our Watson research group have ancestors who are of the correct age to be children of John, so if I find the names of his children we either eliminate him as a possibility or celebrate a breakthrough. > > I am also looking for marriage information for Hattie Watson, who was the youngest child, probably born after 1804 so possibly married around 1824 or so. Is Hattie a nickname for Harriet? > > Does anyone have any advice about how to proceed? Is it likely that there will be any additional information about John in the actual will such as the place he was living? Other sources? > > I consider myself still a novice at this, so if anyone has any advice, I would be grateful. > > Janet Watson > > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > Visit our Centre Co. GenWeb page for further information:(http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacentre/centre.htm) >

Hi I am forwarding this from the Blair Co. List Group. Please contact Annie at RJWNLW65@aol.com for a scanned copy. Thanks! Jean Subj: [PABLAIR-L] Obits~Blair and surrounding areas Date: 08/18/2002 11:05:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time From: RJWNLW65@aol.com To: PABLAIR-L@rootsweb.com I have the following obits, if you would like a scanned copy, please email me offlist and include the name and date sent to the list. (some roll call names on this list) Fred Heeter, 1992 (Martinsburg), son of Zeno and Blanche Drake Heeter, widower of Esther M. Brumbaugh. James M. Myers, 1992 (Alexandria), son of William B. and Jennie E. Iddings Myers, husband of Dorothy Edelbute. Wilma McCachren Stiles, 1992 (Nicktown), daughter of Archibald and Lurie Stiles McCachren, wife of Norman S. Stiles. Hazel V. Shimel Mills, 1992 (Juniata), daughter of Isaac and Ethel Eyerly Shimel, wife of Howard L. Mills. Matthew S. Oliver, 1967 (Ellwood City, native of Coalport), son of William and Catherine Scott Oliver, widower of Violet Stiles. Paul H. Oswandel, 1967, son of Harry and Tressie Snyder Oswandel, husband of Ellen M. Chilcote. Alma Mae Holt Orner, 1967, daughter of Joseph O. and Sadie Butler Holt, wife of Albert H. Orner. Anna F. Heiss O'Donnell, 1967, daughter of John and Teresa Willnecker Heiss, wife of William F. O'Donnell. Nicholas Olijnyk, 1967, son of John and Melienka Olijnyk, husband of Anasatia Kulmatycki. Margaret G. Kelly O'Schea, 1967, daughter of Michael and Mary Lyons Kelly, widow of John W. O'Schea. Thomas O'Shell, 1967 (Utahville), son of Porter and Martha Dillen O'Shell, husband of Tecia Wetzler. Frank J. Orkusz, 1967, husband of Anna Fadema. Maude Cessna Orr, 1967 (Hollidaysburg), daughter of Albert and Sara James Cessna, widow of Samuel Orr. Norbert C. O'Hara, 1967 (CO, native of Cresson), son of Silas and Susan Hines O'Hara. Lesis Oldham, 1967, son of Emmanuel and Margaret Miller Oldham, husband of Rosie T. Miller. Anna C. von Schluembach Ormsby, 1967 (Martinsburg), daughter of Adolph and Grace Butler von Schluembach, widow of Edward H. Ormsby. Leah Jane Putman Oeffinger, 1967 (Juniata), daughter of Peter and Carolyn Schmittle Putman, wife of Charles B. Oeffinger. Catharine E. Buchannan Olewine, 1967, daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Simmons Buchannan, wife of Harry S. Olewine. Jacob Oakes, 1967 *funeral notice Ida Mae Havens Ostrander, 1967 (Huntingdon), daughter of William and Bertha Prough Havens. Rosie T. Miller Oldham, 1967, daughter of Rev. Herman and Laura Knode Miller, widow of Lesin Oldham. Anna C. Doyle Orr, 1967, daughter of James and Emma McConnell Doyle, wife of Joshua Orr. Henry P. Orr, 1967, son of Robert and Mary Ray Orr. William O'Brien (Bellwood) *small death notice Charles N. Over, 1967 (Blue Knob), son of William and Anna Helsel Over. Mary M. Glasser Noonen, 1967, daughter of Jacob and Elizabeth Doutt Glasser, wife of Emmett Noonen. Mike Nimets, 1967 (Wilmore) *small death notice Ralph Noel, 1967 (Cresson) *small death notice Charles Nofsker, 1967 (MD, native of Altoona), son of Samuel and Helen Wysong Nofsker, husband of Lillie K. Helsel. Darla K. Neubauer, 1967 (Barree), daughter of Chris and Nancy Treese Neubauer. Harvey L. Nearhoof, 1967, son of Wilbur and Rose Ale Nearhoof, husband of Anna Cramer. Mary Rohrl Nickola, 1967, son of Louis and Franzisca Lippl Rohrl, wife of Fred Nickola. Carl G. Nankeville, 1967 (Pleasantville), son of William and Mary Graham Nankeville. Annie Whiteman http://www.rootsweb.com/~pablair

HI All - I continue to research my Watson line and now have information on all but two of my ancestors children. I have linked up with a few other people who are also researching their Watson ancestors and we are trying to get complete information about all the Watson lines in Centre County and surrounding areas hoping that we can straighten out all the James, Thomas, Johns, and Williams once and for all. I am looking for information on a son John born about 1774 and mentioned in his fathers will in 1822, so I presume he was still alive. I do not have a copy of the will -- just some notes that someone made. Several people in our Watson research group have ancestors who are of the correct age to be children of John, so if I find the names of his children we either eliminate him as a possibility or celebrate a breakthrough. I am also looking for marriage information for Hattie Watson, who was the youngest child, probably born after 1804 so possibly married around 1824 or so. Is Hattie a nickname for Harriet? Does anyone have any advice about how to proceed? Is it likely that there will be any additional information about John in the actual will such as the place he was living? Other sources? I consider myself still a novice at this, so if anyone has any advice, I would be grateful. Janet Watson

Hi Does anyone have any info or is anyone researching: Centre Co. Marriages: 1869, Dec. 29, William V. HUGHES of Bellefonte and Rebecca E. EMERSON of Germantown, Phila, Pa married by Rev. John THOMPSON at Germantown, Pa Ref. Source: Bellefonte National 1/15, Bellefonte Republican 1/19 Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

Hi Does anyone have any info or researching these families? Centre Co. Marriages: > > 1874, Feb. 26, - Nelson P. RIDDLE and Angelina HUGHES, both of Howard, > married by Elder KEBLER at Lock Haven, Clinton Co. Pa > Ref. Source: Browns Bellefonte Republican 3/4 > > 1880, Jan. 29, - James W. ALLEN of Bald Eagle Valley and Tamson R. > HUGHES, of Boiling Spring, married by J.A. WOOD married at home of the > Ref. Source: Democratic Watchman 2/13 Thanks! Jean Corio Tampa, Fl

Where might I find the journal of James HARRIS - 1784 surveying expedition of land that is now a part of Centre and Huntingdon Counties? Is the journal possibly in a library or a private collection? LINN listed all or part of the journal in his 1883 "History of Centre County PA" - see pgs 21 & 22. I would like to know more about the expedition and those who were a part of this group. Are there other journals available with information about the area. I am especially interested in the area that is now Spruce Creek, Warrior's Mark and Ferguson Township. The members of the surveying company were: William BROWN Esq J HARRIS David MILLIGAN George MEEK Andrew SMALL Daniel Beats John REED D ALEXANDER R ALEXANDER Researching in Centre, Huntingdon & Cumberland County, PA: MEEK - SHIFFER - KREPS/KREBS - McWILLIAMS - YOUNG -HERRON and in other parts of Pennsylvania: MECKLING/MECHLING - BIDDLE - DERLING/DARLIN - LAUER - WETZEL - CODER

Maryann, Below is probably the journal you are searching. Just so you know how to search for things like this: First to http://lcweb.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/ The National Union Collection of Manuscript Collections. I put into the search box: James Harris and got over 200 entries. I narrowed it down with a new search: James Harris Pennsylvania. This is a good way of finding good things. This is only two leaves and does not have too much but may give a clue to the Journal you are searching. Be sure to search both manuscript collections as they will produce different results. Title: Land surveys in Bedford and Centre counties, Pa., 1785 and 1837. Description: 2 leaves. Notes: In the University Archives/Penn State Room, University Libraries, Pennsylvania State University, University Park, Pa. (MSVF/XXX-0118U) Unrestricted access. One survey is a draught of a tract of land in Harris Township, Centre County, Pa., containing 163 acres and 74 perches surveyed on 15 June 1837 for John Krumrine by Jacob Bollinger. The second survey is a true copy draught of a tract of land near the head waters of Spring Creek in Bedford [now Centre] County, Pa., containing 437 acres and 128 perches surveyed on 8 September 1785 for James Hartley by George Woods. Recorded in Book C, p. 484 of Surveys, this official copy was attested on 11 July 1914. Subjects: Hartley, James. Krumrine, John. Bedford County (Pa.) -- Surveys. Centre County (Pa.) -- Surveys. Land surveys -- Pennsylvania -- Bedford County. aat Land surveys -- Pennsylvania -- Centre County. aat Other authors: Bollinger, Jacob, surveyor. Woods, George, 1733-1795, surveyor. Control No.: ocm33890710 Betty Lou bettylou@nm.net http://www.technet.nm.net/~bettylou -----Original Message----- From: maryann [mailto:mamsb@digitalexp.com] Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:09 AM To: PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACENTRE] 1784 - JOURNAL of James HARRIS Where might I find the journal of James HARRIS - 1784 surveying expedition of land that is now a part of Centre and Huntingdon Counties? Is the journal possibly in a library or a private collection? LINN listed all or part of the journal in his 1883 "History of Centre County PA" - see pgs 21 & 22. I would like to know more about the expedition and those who were a part of this group. Are there other journals available with information about the area. I am especially interested in the area that is now Spruce Creek, Warrior's Mark and Ferguson Township. The members of the surveying company were: William BROWN Esq J HARRIS David MILLIGAN George MEEK Andrew SMALL Daniel Beats John REED D ALEXANDER R ALEXANDER Researching in Centre, Huntingdon & Cumberland County, PA: MEEK - SHIFFER - KREPS/KREBS - McWILLIAMS - YOUNG -HERRON and in other parts of Pennsylvania: MECKLING/MECHLING - BIDDLE - DERLING/DARLIN - LAUER - WETZEL - CODER ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== Much info which has been posted on the list already may be found in the PACENTRE Archives. View them at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl

Greetings, My name is Bob Reifsneider and I just joined several lists in the Lock Haven area. I am posting to all of these lists hoping for success, and sincerely apologize for the cross posting. I am the son of Catherine BOEHM, who was born in 1914, in Shenandoah, PA, and Clarence REIFSNEIDER. My mother was the daughter of Margaret HAUGHNEY, born 1885, in Mahanoy City, PA, and John BOEHM, born 1879, in Gilberton, PA. Margaret HAUGHNEY had twin sisters, Clara and Mary, born 1879, also in Mahanoy City. Clara was married twice, to brothers. First to Perry Stephen CROAK, then to William G., both born in Clinton County. I have had much success tracing them and their 10 children except one daughter, Anna May, who married Frank GARDNER. However, I have come up with a big goose egg finding Mary, Clara's twin, so I'm expanding my search area. Mary HAUGHNEY married Edward BREWER. My mother tells me that they had no children and that they also lived in the Lock Haven area. Edward may have been the son of Pete BREWER and ??? ??????, and have had the following siblings: William; Scott; Mary; Clara; and Jennie. I also have a note that says that Mary died in MAY 1945, but don't recall where that note came from. Many thanks for everyone's help, Bob Reifsneider Orange Park, FL

If you don't hear specifically from someone who knows about this journal, you might try to Pennsylvania Archives. They have a great deal of information, including many letters. You might also try: http://www.pa-roots.com/~clearfield/aldrich/chap6.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~pacentre/chistjm1.htm http://maley.net/transcription/BioEncyl/BEChap7-109-124.htm Good luck! Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "maryann" <mamsb@digitalexp.com> To: <PACENTRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 9:09 AM Subject: [PACENTRE] 1784 - JOURNAL of James HARRIS > Where might I find the journal of James HARRIS - 1784 surveying > expedition of land that is now a part of Centre and Huntingdon > Counties? > > Is the journal possibly in a library or a private collection? > > LINN listed all or part of the journal in his 1883 "History of Centre > County PA" - see pgs 21 & 22. I would like to know more about the > expedition and those who were a part of this group. Are there other > journals available with information about the area. > > I am especially interested in the area that is now Spruce Creek, > Warrior's Mark and Ferguson Township. > > The members of the surveying company were: > William BROWN > Esq J HARRIS > David MILLIGAN > George MEEK > Andrew SMALL > Daniel Beats > John REED > D ALEXANDER > R ALEXANDER > > Researching in Centre, Huntingdon & Cumberland County, PA: > MEEK - > SHIFFER - KREPS/KREBS - > McWILLIAMS - > YOUNG -HERRON > and in other parts of Pennsylvania: > MECKLING/MECHLING - > BIDDLE - DERLING/DARLIN - > LAUER - WETZEL - CODER > > > > > > > > ==== PACENTRE Mailing List ==== > Much info which has been posted on the list already may be found in the PACENTRE Archives. View them at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl >

Those researching German ancestors who were from Eastern European countries including Romania, Austro-Hungarian Empire, etc. may want to join the Rootsweb BANAT list. My grandfather, George Becker, immigrated from Hungary to America through Ellis Island in the early 1900's. In the late 1700's, Hungary opened its borders to German settlers, offering them land grants. Many of the villages from the area known as the BANAT have "Familienbuchs"--books written which list every family (parents, children, marriages, dates, etc.) who lived in the town from the late 1700's through the mid-1940's. Several members of the BANAT list had the Familienbuch from my grandfather's home town (Tscherwenka/Crvenka) and supplied me with copies of the pages pertaining to my family--many German families who had migrated there from different areas of Germany. A very knowledgeable and helpful list.

The books are back from the printer, and I've asked the web master to post the ordering information on the CCGS web site on or about August 23. The books look great!!!! No sales will be made prior to the Grange Fair. Mail ordered books will not be shipped until after Sept 1. Ellen

The following was posted by Carolyn Shearer on the PAFRANK list. Many names. And good luck. Please note: I have no further information about these names or the site. Marybeth Corrigall =================== << Here is another great site for early PA marriages. While filed under Lancaster County, Rev. John Casper Stoever was an itinerant minister who traveled widely in PA. Remember also that he was German, so when searching for nonGerman ancestors you need to be creative with the spelling. eg Montgomery is "Mt. Gommery" http://www.pa-roots.com/~lancaster/church/stoever/stoevermarriage.html >>

Linda, Thanks for the enlightening info re: Podkarpackie. I only knew that it was the name of the province after the 1999 redistricting in Poland. Do you have ancestry there? If so I'd love to communicate with you further about that. I have now identified 12 immigrants of the IWANICKI surname (called EVINSKY in our branch) who came from Stefkowa, my ancestral village, to America via Ellis Island. Tracing them I see that many are related and probably all are somehow kin of my great-great-grandfather, Peter IWANICKI (EVINSKY). As far as German research goes, I cannot say that I have done all that much original research. My German lines basically are in one of two groups: 1) the "Church People," that is the Lutherans and Reformed who came to Pennsylvania in the period from about 1730 to 1760; and 2) the Plain People. A large number of my ancestors were Mennonites or Brethren of one sort or another. With the first group I have found the books of Annette Burgert to be invaluable in identifying ancestral villages, from whence I can order the microfilms of local parish records into the nearest LDS center and scour them for additional data. I've only done this a few times at present, though I have many microfilms on my list to get. You can get the film numbers online at www.familysearch.org. I have a number, also, that were 1709ers through New York State, and the work of Henry Z. Jones has proved of great aid in tracing these lines. Most of those went into Tulpehocken in Berks County and I go to that Historical Society at least once a year to glean more data. They have a fabulous annual dinner in November of each year at Trinity Tulpehocken UCC -- the church which my 8th great grandfather, Hans Georg Noll, helped organize in the 1740s. My Anabaptist roots have been well researched by many. I am a member of the Lancaster Mennonite Historical Society and their quarterly publication, "Pennsylvania Mennonite Heritage" contains MUCH in the way of documentary evidence on these families. Jane Evans Best's work on my Groff and Bär lines has been phenomenal, and I have it as published in the magazines, as well as purchasing her book. She has studied many of the original parish and civil records in Switzerland and Germany, documenting the early ancestry. I have bought a number of published genealogies of Mennonite families in Lancaster County and, as these tie together one way or another, I have picked up information also. One of my ancestral lines, Schürch, has a very active family organization of which I am proud to say I am a member and one of the official historians. We have two branches, in North America and in Switzerland. Much research has been done into various original records by the historians of the association, and many books have been published documenting the relationships as known. We just had a wonderful reunion at Lancaster, PA last month -- I know that, from this list, myself and Judy Offen were privileged to attend. I am just so thrilled to have what I do have, and am very thankful to everyone who has shared information along the way. Were it not for this sharing of data I would be nowhere near as far along as I am in the search. The next big frontier is the research of my Carpatho-Rusyn roots in southeastern Poland. My grandmother, who is 100% Carpatho-Rusyn, is now 77 years old and I would like very much to present her with a volume of her ancestry so that she can know her heritage. It has always been a mystery beyond her grandparents. The research is tough, as I do not know the language, and it took a long time to figure out where to write. I have written letters to the village priests in the hometowns of my great-grandparents, using a Polish translator, and am hoping that I will receive something in reply. I'm not sure that I gave you many insights into how to do German research, but maybe you've gleaned something from my note. Justin Justin Kirk Houser Genealogist and Historian of Central PA and Beyond View my homepage: http://members.aol.com/JKHouser84/index.htm Main Lines: Houser, Breon, Shawley, Ranio/Hrynio (and others) President, Bellefonte Area HS Class of 2003 Student Representative, Bellefonte Area School District Board of Education Listowner, PACENTRE-L@Rootsweb.com Historian, Schürch Association of North America (specialty Central PA lines) Member, Valley View United Methodist Church (near Bellefonte, PA) "Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature"