Hi E.R., Our former Pastor and his wife maintained close ties with her former (late) husband's parents -- she was widowed very young in similar circumstances. They visit frequently and have a close relationship. I think it depends on the circumstances -- through remarriage, one certainly acquires new family members and additional relationships. However, by virtue of having married into a particular family, one becomes a part of that family always for genealogical purposes and, if the quality of the personal relationship permits it, I would see no reason why it wouldn't continue in that sense also. Given the example of an older couple, if Uncle Fred passed away, you wouldn't stop inviting Aunt Mildred to family dinners, would you? (At least, I would hope not.) When we had the Houser reunion for many years, the surviving children of my great-grandparents, and the spouses of the deceased children, all attended, with their children, etc. Most reunions I know are like this. Justin At 10:50 AM 12/31/2006, Our Genealogy wrote: >This may sound more like a question for Dear Abby. My wife's first >husband was killed in a car accident. They had three young children >at the time of his death. Over the past twenty some years since his >death we have maintained a good relationship with his family. They >welcomed me and attended our wedding. > >The children are blood relatives with their father's family and that >relation ship survived his passing. > >Does the widow's relationship with the family of the decease >terminate with the death of the spouse? > >E R McCauley > > `My ancestors didn't come over on the Mayflower, > but they met the boat.' > - Will Rogers > >_________________________________________________________________ >Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place! MSN >Shopping Sales & Deals >http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639 > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This may sound more like a question for Dear Abby. My wife’s first husband was killed in a car accident. They had three young children at the time of his death. Over the past twenty some years since his death we have maintained a good relationship with his family. They welcomed me and attended our wedding. The children are blood relatives with their father’s family and that relation ship survived his passing. Does the widow’s relationship with the family of the decease terminate with the death of the spouse? E R McCauley `My ancestors didn't come over on the Mayflower, but they met the boat.' - Will Rogers _________________________________________________________________ Find sales, coupons, and free shipping, all in one place!  MSN Shopping Sales & Deals http://shopping.msn.com/content/shp/?ctid=198,ptnrid=176,ptnrdata=200639

I think I will cook this tomorrow too. I also sent it on to Lori as she enjoys cooking and Bob loves pudding. Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Bread pudding > This is the BEST Bread Pudding I've ever had...this was my Mom's recipe > and as kids we couldn't get enough of it....and now my kids also love it > !!! > > 3 cups bread - cubed (doesn't have to be really stale bread - just not too > soft) > 2 cups milk, scalded with 1/4 cup butter (scalded means you cook it until > it almost burns > and coats the bottom of the pan) > 1/2 cup sugar > 2 eggs, slightly beaten > 1/4 tsp salt > 1 tsp cinnamon > 1/2 cup raisins > 1 tsp vanilla > > Mix everything together and put it into a 1 and 1/2 quart baking dish..I > use my pyrex bowl... > > Place the dish in a pan of hot water that is about 1" deep...I use my > 8"x8" pan.. > (this helps the pudding to bake all the way through) > > Bake at 350 degrees for 40-45 minutes... > > My mouth is watering just thinking about this recipe.... > I think I'll make some tomorrow !!!!!!!! > > Pat in Michigan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 9:08 PM > Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Bread pudding > > > Okay.......... > Here we go again with all the goodies ! I love bread pudding....I have > not > eaten this since I was very young.....well, at least 40 years . By any > chance do > you have that recipe. I never head of pouring milk over it though. > Kindly > Bea > > Sue Groom <[email protected]> wrote: > Speaking of using up stale bread, has anyone ever heard of Bread Pudding? > My > Dad would make this with stale bread, mostly crusts, milk, eggs, sugar, > cinnamon. He'd mix it all together and bake it, like a custard. Then he > would > pour milk over it and eat it hot or cold. It smelled wonderful while > baking, but > never quite lived up to that smell in my estimation!! > > Sue > > > >> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:52:00 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: > [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] dumplings and tomatoes> > > > Maybe > this was just a Pa.dish. Mother used to steam the tomatoes then> add milk > and > sugar.> > Tom> > > On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:> > >> >>>> >> SOME THINGS I GUESS WE JUST TAKE FOR GRANTED. I assumed everyone> >> > everywhere ate hot, stewed, breaded tomatoes. Hmm ! Maybe not.> >> --Fred> > >> >> >> Not here in Iowa Fred. I am learning a lot about "how others ate"> >> >> >> > > Diane> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the > list, > please send an email to> > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the> > quotes in the subject and the body of the > message> >>> >> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, >>> >> > > please > send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > me! > ssage > _________________________________________________________________ > Fixing up the home? Live Search can help. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=wlmemailtaglinenov06 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > " You can preach a better sermon with your life than with your lips " > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Chris: Thank you for letting us know about your genealogy success. It is a welcome relief. Mary

I am glad that you are finding some information on your Orner family. I don't know if your branch stayed in Centre County or for how long. There is a large family of dairy farming Orners just over the line in Clearfield County. I was in 4-H with the twins boys in the 1960s. Another reason I bring this up is because I am related to the John Kirk family who came from Bald Eagle Valley to the Home Camp, Rockton area of Clearfield County about 1824. This would be Brady and Union Townships. I have a Kirk who married an Emerick, so know that some of these names were and still are in that area. Jean

Thanks for all the responses! Only one sounded like ours. These were stewed tomatoes (usually whole, home canned), no sugar) and actual dumplings - not bread. The recipes sent by Janet from Google are the right idea. Our dumplings had no shortening, however. The dumpling recipe was my grandmother's (English/Dutch). Perhaps the tomato/dumplings came from my father's side. He was German. Mother also served stewed tomatoes as side vegetable, no additions,(bread, butter, or sugar) but we did like to add sugar at the table. We also ate canned tomatoes cold as vegetable. Couldn't convice my husband on the last one, so I've served them hot the last 45 yrs. Lynn

Peg, I've never made chocolate bread pudding, but I would think that the melted chocolate could just be incorporated. Here's the way I would do it. Melt squares of choc (amt depending on how chocolaty you desire - I would think 2-4) with a couple tsp of butter, allow to cool. Beat egg and sugar until creamy, add room temp chocolate sauce, then milk. Pour over bread and mix just until all bread has been covered. If you mix it too much the bread will fall apart and become mush. Jan Blessed Be; Bright Blessings; Beautiful Beginnings; Big Boons; Bodacious Blockbusters; Brilliant Brainstorms ; Boundless Benefits

LOL - well, seems I've been keeping the PA Dutch traditions alive here in CA. Even my Eurasian grandchildren love all the old time recipes gram uses. My recipe is much like Patsy's - but, I also use 1/2 t nutmeg; and the pan of water on bottom shelf of oven is really important to keep the eggs from curdling. Also, to keep the raisins from sinking to the bottom of the mixture, it helps to toss them (or any other fruit you might use) with a couple tablespoons of flour to coat them. Some variations I've used are cranberries instead of raisins, replacing 1/2 C of the milk with orange juice and grating some orange rind into the mix, and sometimes adding chopped nuts. Have also sometimes put cubed apple in with the raisins and nuts. And - of course the piece de resistance - covering with hard sauce while still warm or serving a bowl of hard sauce with the dessert. Jan Blessed Be; Bright Blessings; Beautiful Beginnings; Big Boons; Bodacious Blockbusters; Brilliant Brainstorms ; Boundless Benefits

In a message dated 12/30/2006 5:16:51 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I continue to learn why my Smiths left Bald Eagle for Iowa -- too much German (aka PA Dutch) food. Too much German food? NEVER!!!!! Blessed Be; Bright Blessings; Beautiful Beginnings; Big Boons; Bodacious Blockbusters; Brilliant Brainstorms ; Boundless Benefits

Hi Sue Am just wondering if you have any theory's as to why Charles McClenahan's middle name is Brown? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner > Last but not least, there is a biography of George B. and Mary (Wingate) > McClenahan in the same book. One of their children was Charles Brown > McClenahan who was born abt 1838 and died 26 Nov 1894 in Milroy, Mifflin, > Pa. He was discharged a Sergeant-Major after serving in the civil war. > He > first married Martha Jane Orner (she was born about 1839 and died in the > 1870's in MIfflin county). They had 3 children, but I could only find 2: > Irene B.(born about 1870) and George (born abt 1873). Both these children > are with their McClenahan grandparents in the 1880 Milroy census as son > Charles is with his new wife Catherine (Kate) Coldren with whom he > eventually also had 3 children.. > > Hope this helps, > Sue > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks everyone for the Orner information. Does that mean that the Martha Orner in the 1860 census record with Benjamin Miller 20 years old seamstress is the same Martha Orner with William Swinehart 20 years, laborer? I was not able to find Matilda Orner in the 1850 census record as the page only appears half scanned in Heritage Quest. Someone found the page for me on Matilda. This is where I found James. 1850 Lewistown, PA Mifflin Co. Orner, Matilda. Priscilla 7. John 4. James 8/12. M432 797 270. Are we all on the same page that this Priscilla Orner listed on the 1850 census record is actually the same person as Bella Ann who married William Emerick? ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 2:48 PM Subject: Re: Ebbs, Brown, Orner Susan, here is a page form the Orner Genealogy- i know nothing about a baby James- but this is the info I do have- Doris

Chris- congratulations! I found great Boyd family info in the Spangler collection too!! It was a wonderful find! Sue ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 23:40:04 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PACENTRE] Centre County research success story > > Hello All, > > With all the recipes going back and forth, I figured I'd throw a little > genealogy into the "mixer", as it were. > > Thursday, my mother and I made the trip over to Centre County for the > first time. As I posted a month or so ago, I had been stuck at James > McGinnis, born 13 Dec 1819, supposedly in Boggs Twp, Centre Co. There > was a Henry McGinnis listed in Boggs Twp in the right time frame, and > had children the right age to be James, but I couldn't find anything to > definitively connect them. Some things that made it a little muddy: > 1. James lived in Boggs Twp, ARMSTRONG County his adult life, so I > thought perhaps the family information may be have been written down > wrong, misheard, etc. > 2. James had 13 children, and none of them was named Henry - even as > a middle name. > 3. I found an empty estate file in Armstrong Co dated 1865 for a > Henry McGinnis, but there was nothing in it. In Armstrong Co, all of the > estates are on microfiche and all there was, was an empty jacket with > the date and name on it. Apparently, it was mis-filed at the time, > because when I got back to researching recently, I wrote the courthouse > again asking if they had any further information about this estate, the > microfiche was there. When I got the copies, I was really excited > because this Henry died in Pine Twp (which Boggs was later formed from), > and it listed James McGinnis as the executor. I thought after several > years of wondering about Henry, this estate confirmed him as the father > of James...and then I cleaned out my old files. > 4. Buried deep in my files, I had a copy of a response to a letter I > had sent early on to the Centre County Courthouse inquiring about > McGinnis wills or estate files in that county. The response I got back > had the box checked saying that they could not find any records, so I > tucked it away in the files, and there it sat for years. When I saw it > again recently, while that particular box was checked, written in the > margin in small letters, it said "#3402 1/2" and "$6.00 for copies" How > I hadn't seen that years ago, I have no idea, but I couldn't get to the > mailbox fast enough. I sent out the six dollars, referencing the > apparent case #, and a few days later I got back an estate file for a > Henry McGinnis, d. May/June of 1850 in Boggs Twp, Centre Co. Now I was > stumped! If this Henry died in 1850, who was the Henry that died in > Armstrong in 1865, and was either of them the father?? > > That brings us to last week: > > After a 4+ hour drive, and then not being able to find the courthouse > extension, things didn't get off to a good start. When we finally did > find it and got to the Recorder of Deeds office, we were disappointed to > find that Henry McGinnis (or any McGinnis, for that matter), never > seemed to have owned any land, under any spelling variant, in the 30 > years he lived in Boggs Twp. We decided to have some lunch, regroup, and > head to the library. That's when things began looking up. Bringing mom > along poses its own challenges. We have two different research "styles". > I am more of a courthouse researcher/original document guy. I enjoy > getting dirty, lifting heavy record books, and scrolling through > microfilm until my eyes dry up and threaten to fall out. She prefers the > county histories, transcriptions, and things along those lines because > it reads more like a novel and it keeps her attention better. Perhaps > more than any other place I have been to - the Centre County Library was > perfect for both of us. She had the Spangler Collection and other > materials to churn through, and I had the basement and microfilm. Joyce, > the woman working that day was extremely helpful and knowledgeable, and > truly interested in connecting the us and the other people there with > the materials they needed. Between the facility and materials > themselves, and people who really care -- that place is truly a > treasure, and I can't wait to go back once I get the chance. > > Oh yeah...the success story: > > I knew from census records that the Centre Co Henry had seven children. > There was a Jesse McGinnis also in Armstrong Co that was the right age > to be a brother of James, and in the 1850 census, there was an Elizabeth > McGinnis living with a neighbor next to where Henry used to live. That > might account for three of them, but I couldn't find any other seemingly > related McGinnises - especially since I had no names to search for.Upon > digging into the Spangler collection, we quickly found a reference to > the estate file I had just gotten in the mail, and short time later, we > found a transcription of part of an Orphan's Court case involving the > minor heirs of Henry McGinnis. It named four children: William, > Christian, Elizabeth, and Henry. The case was brought because their > guardian, Jacob Peters, was asking for court permission to sell a bounty > land warrant issued to Henry's minor heirs from Henry's War of 1812 > service. In the original estate file, Henry's company and state > (Maryland) of service were also listed. > > While I was going through these papers, my mom was still hard at work on > the Spangler collection. Bless Mrs. Spangler! If not for her alert > transcription, the next bit of info would probably have eluded us > forever. She included in a transcription of an estate file for Jacob > Shroyer, the receipts of the administrators. In the will, a daughter, > Elizabeth was listed as "intermarried with Henry McKinny", but two of > the receipts were signed by Henry "Meginnis"! So now I had: the name of > Henry's missing children, the name of his wife, and also the names of > her parents and siblings. All I needed to do now was find some way to > connect this Henry McGinnis to James. As per my own ideas, and also the > suggestions of Justin Houser, I went to the tax records looking for the > school lists. While I didn't find anything in the school lists, the tax > search yielded quite a bit. They seemed to confirm that Henry arrived > 1819/1820, as he first appears in the 1820 returns, as well as the 1820 > census. Not much happens for the next 24 years, but then in 1844, next > to Henry, appears James in the tax lists. Needless to say, I was > excited, but also cautious. Knowing that James was married in 1849 in > Armstrong County, I wanted to be sure that James no longer appeared in > Centre Co. For the next two years, James and Henry were listed. Then in > 1847, I found something most unexpected and wonderful. James, and also > suspected brother Jesse BOTH appeared in the tax record right under > Henry, and in fact are listed as residing with "H. McGinnis" This was > the last year they would appear in the tax records, all but confirming > that these were in fact the Jesse and James McGinnis of Armstrong County. > > There were other minor bits of info that we came away with but that was > the meat of it, to use the cooking vernacular. As with most research > trips, with every answer that is found, so many more questions get > asked, and this certainly is no different. While I think this trip gave > enough evidence to support my conclusions, I am still looking for more. > It was exciting to finally get past that wall, and it was made all the > better and more enjoyable by the environment in which we were working. > Sorry that this ended up so long. I sat down to write this as a quick > thank you to the folks on the list and at the library that took the time > to help me out, and it turned into a novella. I hope that each and every > one of you on the list find success in your endeavors in the New Year. > > Regards, > > Chris Staats > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Try amazing new 3D maps http://maps.live.com/?wip=51

Hello All, With all the recipes going back and forth, I figured I'd throw a little genealogy into the "mixer", as it were. Thursday, my mother and I made the trip over to Centre County for the first time. As I posted a month or so ago, I had been stuck at James McGinnis, born 13 Dec 1819, supposedly in Boggs Twp, Centre Co. There was a Henry McGinnis listed in Boggs Twp in the right time frame, and had children the right age to be James, but I couldn't find anything to definitively connect them. Some things that made it a little muddy: 1. James lived in Boggs Twp, ARMSTRONG County his adult life, so I thought perhaps the family information may be have been written down wrong, misheard, etc. 2. James had 13 children, and none of them was named Henry - even as a middle name. 3. I found an empty estate file in Armstrong Co dated 1865 for a Henry McGinnis, but there was nothing in it. In Armstrong Co, all of the estates are on microfiche and all there was, was an empty jacket with the date and name on it. Apparently, it was mis-filed at the time, because when I got back to researching recently, I wrote the courthouse again asking if they had any further information about this estate, the microfiche was there. When I got the copies, I was really excited because this Henry died in Pine Twp (which Boggs was later formed from), and it listed James McGinnis as the executor. I thought after several years of wondering about Henry, this estate confirmed him as the father of James...and then I cleaned out my old files. 4. Buried deep in my files, I had a copy of a response to a letter I had sent early on to the Centre County Courthouse inquiring about McGinnis wills or estate files in that county. The response I got back had the box checked saying that they could not find any records, so I tucked it away in the files, and there it sat for years. When I saw it again recently, while that particular box was checked, written in the margin in small letters, it said "#3402 1/2" and "$6.00 for copies" How I hadn't seen that years ago, I have no idea, but I couldn't get to the mailbox fast enough. I sent out the six dollars, referencing the apparent case #, and a few days later I got back an estate file for a Henry McGinnis, d. May/June of 1850 in Boggs Twp, Centre Co. Now I was stumped! If this Henry died in 1850, who was the Henry that died in Armstrong in 1865, and was either of them the father?? That brings us to last week: After a 4+ hour drive, and then not being able to find the courthouse extension, things didn't get off to a good start. When we finally did find it and got to the Recorder of Deeds office, we were disappointed to find that Henry McGinnis (or any McGinnis, for that matter), never seemed to have owned any land, under any spelling variant, in the 30 years he lived in Boggs Twp. We decided to have some lunch, regroup, and head to the library. That's when things began looking up. Bringing mom along poses its own challenges. We have two different research "styles". I am more of a courthouse researcher/original document guy. I enjoy getting dirty, lifting heavy record books, and scrolling through microfilm until my eyes dry up and threaten to fall out. She prefers the county histories, transcriptions, and things along those lines because it reads more like a novel and it keeps her attention better. Perhaps more than any other place I have been to - the Centre County Library was perfect for both of us. She had the Spangler Collection and other materials to churn through, and I had the basement and microfilm. Joyce, the woman working that day was extremely helpful and knowledgeable, and truly interested in connecting the us and the other people there with the materials they needed. Between the facility and materials themselves, and people who really care -- that place is truly a treasure, and I can't wait to go back once I get the chance. Oh yeah...the success story: I knew from census records that the Centre Co Henry had seven children. There was a Jesse McGinnis also in Armstrong Co that was the right age to be a brother of James, and in the 1850 census, there was an Elizabeth McGinnis living with a neighbor next to where Henry used to live. That might account for three of them, but I couldn't find any other seemingly related McGinnises - especially since I had no names to search for.Upon digging into the Spangler collection, we quickly found a reference to the estate file I had just gotten in the mail, and short time later, we found a transcription of part of an Orphan's Court case involving the minor heirs of Henry McGinnis. It named four children: William, Christian, Elizabeth, and Henry. The case was brought because their guardian, Jacob Peters, was asking for court permission to sell a bounty land warrant issued to Henry's minor heirs from Henry's War of 1812 service. In the original estate file, Henry's company and state (Maryland) of service were also listed. While I was going through these papers, my mom was still hard at work on the Spangler collection. Bless Mrs. Spangler! If not for her alert transcription, the next bit of info would probably have eluded us forever. She included in a transcription of an estate file for Jacob Shroyer, the receipts of the administrators. In the will, a daughter, Elizabeth was listed as "intermarried with Henry McKinny", but two of the receipts were signed by Henry "Meginnis"! So now I had: the name of Henry's missing children, the name of his wife, and also the names of her parents and siblings. All I needed to do now was find some way to connect this Henry McGinnis to James. As per my own ideas, and also the suggestions of Justin Houser, I went to the tax records looking for the school lists. While I didn't find anything in the school lists, the tax search yielded quite a bit. They seemed to confirm that Henry arrived 1819/1820, as he first appears in the 1820 returns, as well as the 1820 census. Not much happens for the next 24 years, but then in 1844, next to Henry, appears James in the tax lists. Needless to say, I was excited, but also cautious. Knowing that James was married in 1849 in Armstrong County, I wanted to be sure that James no longer appeared in Centre Co. For the next two years, James and Henry were listed. Then in 1847, I found something most unexpected and wonderful. James, and also suspected brother Jesse BOTH appeared in the tax record right under Henry, and in fact are listed as residing with "H. McGinnis" This was the last year they would appear in the tax records, all but confirming that these were in fact the Jesse and James McGinnis of Armstrong County. There were other minor bits of info that we came away with but that was the meat of it, to use the cooking vernacular. As with most research trips, with every answer that is found, so many more questions get asked, and this certainly is no different. While I think this trip gave enough evidence to support my conclusions, I am still looking for more. It was exciting to finally get past that wall, and it was made all the better and more enjoyable by the environment in which we were working. Sorry that this ended up so long. I sat down to write this as a quick thank you to the folks on the list and at the library that took the time to help me out, and it turned into a novella. I hope that each and every one of you on the list find success in your endeavors in the New Year. Regards, Chris Staats

This is the BEST Bread Pudding I've ever had...this was my Mom's recipe and as kids we couldn't get enough of it....and now my kids also love it !!! 3 cups bread - cubed (doesn't have to be really stale bread - just not too soft) 2 cups milk, scalded with 1/4 cup butter (scalded means you cook it until it almost burns and coats the bottom of the pan) 1/2 cup sugar 2 eggs, slightly beaten 1/4 tsp salt 1 tsp cinnamon 1/2 cup raisins 1 tsp vanilla Mix everything together and put it into a 1 and 1/2 quart baking dish..I use my pyrex bowl... Place the dish in a pan of hot water that is about 1" deep...I use my 8"x8" pan.. (this helps the pudding to bake all the way through) Bake at 350 degrees for 40-45 minutes... My mouth is watering just thinking about this recipe.... I think I'll make some tomorrow !!!!!!!! Pat in Michigan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Bread pudding Okay.......... Here we go again with all the goodies ! I love bread pudding....I have not eaten this since I was very young.....well, at least 40 years . By any chance do you have that recipe. I never head of pouring milk over it though. Kindly Bea Sue Groom <[email protected]> wrote: Speaking of using up stale bread, has anyone ever heard of Bread Pudding? My Dad would make this with stale bread, mostly crusts, milk, eggs, sugar, cinnamon. He'd mix it all together and bake it, like a custard. Then he would pour milk over it and eat it hot or cold. It smelled wonderful while baking, but never quite lived up to that smell in my estimation!! Sue > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:52:00 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] dumplings and tomatoes> > > Maybe this was just a Pa.dish. Mother used to steam the tomatoes then> add milk and sugar.> > Tom> > > On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:> >> >>> >> SOME THINGS I GUESS WE JUST TAKE FOR GRANTED. I assumed everyone> >> everywhere ate hot, stewed, breaded tomatoes. Hmm ! Maybe not.> >> --Fred> >> >> > Not here in Iowa Fred. I am learning a lot about "how others ate"> >> >> > Diane> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the me! ssage _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help. http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=wlmemailtaglinenov06 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message " You can preach a better sermon with your life than with your lips " ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

In a message dated 12/30/2006 7:16:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I continue to learn why my Smiths left Bald Eagle for Iowa -- too much German (aka PA Dutch) food. NOW, NOW, NOW! Don't let me take offense! You can never have "too much German (aka PA Dutch) food." I'm just kiddin' -- sorta. As for bread pudding, there's a chain of buffet-type restaurants (Old Country Buffet) here in our area (Minn.) who always have hot bread pudding on the dessert steam tables. I also have a recipe for making microwave bread pudding, though I've not done it for a decade or so. I've never heard of, or tried, chocolate bread pudding but can't imagine chocolate ruining anything at all . . . ever!! Yum! Sounds good to me. Fred in Minn.

Bea, he never used a recipe!! I called him and he told me this: Grease a big glass bowl; pyrex bowl. Put in broken up stale, or not stale bread pieces. Mix about four or five eggs with milk, sugar, cinnamon and heat on the stove (but don't cook). Pour all this over the bread, add a little salt and a few dabs of butter on top. Bake in a 350 over for an hour or so. The more liquid used over the bread, the more it will be custard-like. Sue > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 18:08:55 -0800> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Bread pudding> > Okay..........> Here we go again with all the goodies ! I love bread pudding....I have not eaten this since I was very young.....well, at least 40 years . By any chance do you have that recipe. I never head of pouring milk over it though.> Kindly> Bea> > Sue Groom <[email protected]> wrote:> Speaking of using up stale bread, has anyone ever heard of Bread Pudding? My Dad would make this with stale bread, mostly crusts, milk, eggs, sugar, cinnamon. He'd mix it all together and bake it, like a custard. Then he would pour milk over it and eat it hot or cold. It smelled wonderful while baking, but never quite lived up to that smell in my estimation!!> > Sue> > > > > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:52:00 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] dumplings and tomatoes> > > Maybe this was just a Pa.dish. Mother used to steam the tomatoes then> add milk and sugar.> > Tom> > > On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:> >> >>> >> SOME THINGS I GUESS WE JUST TAKE FOR GRANTED. I assumed everyone> >> everywhere ate hot, stewed, breaded tomatoes. Hmm ! Maybe not.> >> --Fred> >> >> > Not here in Iowa Fred. I am learning a lot about "how others ate"> >> >> > Diane> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> me!> ssage> _________________________________________________________________> Fixing up the home? Live Search can help.> http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=wlmemailtaglinenov06> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > " You can preach a better sermon with your life than with your lips " > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get the Live.com Holiday Page for recipes, gift-giving ideas, and more. www.live.com/?addtemplate=holiday

OKay! I have to jump in. Does anyone have a recipe for Chocolate Bread Pudding? I remember helping my mother make it (by melting chocolate on the top of a double boiler) but I don't know how she made it. I am sure it took the stale bread, milk and chocolate but that is all. Peg

My wife saves stale bread (in the freezer) and when enough makes bread pudding. I like it warm with melted margerine on it. Butter would be better! Hers comes out more like a cake, than a custard. I have had the custard type, and do not care for it as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Groom" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 9:01 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] Bread pudding > Speaking of using up stale bread, has anyone ever heard of Bread Pudding? > My Dad would make this with stale bread, mostly crusts, milk, eggs, sugar, > cinnamon. He'd mix it all together and bake it, like a custard. Then he > would pour milk over it and eat it hot or cold. It smelled wonderful > while baking, but never quite lived up to that smell in my estimation!! > > Sue > > > >> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:52:00 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: >> [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] dumplings and tomatoes> > >> > Maybe this was just a Pa.dish. Mother used to steam the tomatoes then> >> add milk and sugar.> > Tom> > > On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:54 PM, >> [email protected] wrote:> >> >>> >> SOME THINGS I GUESS WE JUST TAKE FOR >> GRANTED. I assumed everyone> >> everywhere ate hot, stewed, breaded >> tomatoes. Hmm ! Maybe not.> >> --Fred> >> >> > Not here in Iowa Fred. I >> am learning a lot about "how others ate"> >> >> > Diane> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please >> send an email to> > [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the> > quotes in the subject and the body of the >> message> >> >> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from >> the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> me! > ssage > _________________________________________________________________ > Fixing up the home? Live Search can help. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=wlmemailtaglinenov06 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Speaking of using up stale bread, has anyone ever heard of Bread Pudding? My Dad would make this with stale bread, mostly crusts, milk, eggs, sugar, cinnamon. He'd mix it all together and bake it, like a custard. Then he would pour milk over it and eat it hot or cold. It smelled wonderful while baking, but never quite lived up to that smell in my estimation!! Sue > Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:52:00 -0500> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] dumplings and tomatoes> > > Maybe this was just a Pa.dish. Mother used to steam the tomatoes then> add milk and sugar.> > Tom> > > On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:54 PM, [email protected] wrote:> >> >>> >> SOME THINGS I GUESS WE JUST TAKE FOR GRANTED. I assumed everyone> >> everywhere ate hot, stewed, breaded tomatoes. Hmm ! Maybe not.> >> --Fred> >> >> > Not here in Iowa Fred. I am learning a lot about "how others ate"> >> >> > Diane> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> >> >> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help. http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=wlmemailtaglinenov06

> Maybe this was just a Pa.dish. Mother used to steam the tomatoes then add milk and sugar. Tom > On Dec 30, 2006, at 4:54 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> SOME THINGS I GUESS WE JUST TAKE FOR GRANTED. I assumed everyone >> everywhere ate hot, stewed, breaded tomatoes. Hmm ! Maybe not. >> --Fred > > > Not here in Iowa Fred. I am learning a lot about "how others ate" > > > Diane > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >