Justin, Thanks for the reply. There was no notice in the Progress. I do have the full obit of his son who died in Oct 2006. Just can't imagine why there wasn't one on the father. Norine

Justin, Thanks for the reply. There was no notice in the Progress. I do have the full obit of his son who died in Oct 2006. Just can't imagine why there wasn't one on the father. Norine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Kirk Houser" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Wellar Obit > Norine, > > I saw no such obituary. His great-great-grandmother was an Ammerman > which MAY connect into my Werts ancestry, hence my interest. > > Perhaps the Philipsburg Journal (weekly) picked up something, or the > Clearfield Progress. > > His son Marvin died Oct. 1, 2006 and he had a full obit in the CDT. > > Justin > > At 05:34 PM 1/1/2007, you wrote: >>Could someone please tell me if the obit on Marvin L Wellar who died on 16 >>Dec 06 was published in the Centre Daily Times? There was only a notice >>in >>the online edition. I would appreciate a scanned copy if there is one. >> >>Thank you for any assistance. >> >>Norine Swisher >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re: Does anyone else have an opinion on this! or suggestions for the list about email exchange? >I think the subject line should be changed to the subject you are talking about as a lot of people may be missing out on important information they are looking for. > Thanks for bringing this up to everyone. I'm almost afraid to stick my neck out on this subject again, but I agree 100% - I also think the subject line should reflect what is in the post. Unfortunately, when I made the same comments a month ago, I received one of the nastiest emails ever sent to me personally, not to the board, from a Diggety Dork. Happy New Year and good luck to all in your genealogy research. Not afraid to use my real name, Michele Gibson Pierson ________________________________________ PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com

Could someone please tell me if the obit on Marvin L Wellar who died on 16 Dec 06 was published in the Centre Daily Times? There was only a notice in the online edition. I would appreciate a scanned copy if there is one. Thank you for any assistance. Norine Swisher

My mother made chocolate bread pudding by substituting chocolate bits (Nestle's semi-sweet morsels) for the raisins. This is the only way I ever had bread pudding until I went to college. What a disappointment it was to discover the dark bits in the pudding served at the dorm cafeteria were not chocolate, but raisins! I have since learned to enjoy bread pudding with raisins, but it cannot top the pudding made with chocolate. Pat

Hi Nancy, Thanks for the information on Phillip Benner. He and Conrad Reamy, probably the master forgeman, both appear on my Casper Ross's Nat papers. I am hoping to find some records and maybe his wifes name. It's not real apparent on the Federal census records although it looks like Mary. I keep wondering, if Casper was from Germany or Holland how likely would a German settle in Centre county? Does that sound about right? I'll send you a page of his nat papers with Benners name. Mark in Kansas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner For a starter on General Philip Benner, "The History of Rock," by Myrtle Magargel. 1940. It is reported that 92 persons came with Philip Benner to what is now Centre County in 1792 from Chester County, PA. Conrad Rimmey kept a boarding house for the group until dwellings could be built for the group. Nancy Lee Stover -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Good evening all, I am a new "lister" and thought I would try this out. Seems like a good way to gain some insight into early Centre County where my g-g-g grandfather settled in 1802 ish. He worked for a Phillip Benner and Conrad Reamy in the Forges. His name was Casper Ross. Does anybody know of any books or registers, rosters of the early Forges in Pa? Also, could I ask, what ethnicities would have settled the area??? Thanks, Mark in Kansas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Sorry, that should be Jane Brown BRACKENRIDGE whose mother was Unknown BROWN. ----- Original Message ----- From: slbearer<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Hi Sue Am just wondering if you have any theory's as to why Charles McClenahan's middle name is Brown? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner > Last but not least, there is a biography of George B. and Mary (Wingate) > McClenahan in the same book. One of their children was Charles Brown > McClenahan who was born abt 1838 and died 26 Nov 1894 in Milroy, Mifflin, > Pa. He was discharged a Sergeant-Major after serving in the civil war. > He > first married Martha Jane Orner (she was born about 1839 and died in the > 1870's in MIfflin county). They had 3 children, but I could only find 2: > Irene B.(born about 1870) and George (born abt 1873). Both these children > are with their McClenahan grandparents in the 1880 Milroy census as son > Charles is with his new wife Catherine (Kate) Coldren with whom he > eventually also had 3 children.. > > Hope this helps, > Sue > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

I agree with what you are saying, as I do the samething and delete stuff that maybe be the same subject of the email. I think the subject line should be changed to the subject you are talking about as a lot of people may be missing out on important information they are looking for. Thanks for bringing this up to everyone. Barbara Robertson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 8:40 AM Subject: [PACENTRE] Subject Lines This is a general comment. Previously if anyone "replied" to an email, it went directly to the person who sent the email and was not posted on the entire list. Since this has changed, there have been a number of problems. One has been the increase in emails that are really replies back and forth on a topic that is possibly of limited interest. (I for one enjoy all the food lore but know that this is not a universal interest.) The other is that the subject lines do not reflect the content of the email. This is a problem for me since with the increased volume, I don't read everything and may be missing out on some information of interest. Example -- there was a response to an email with subject "Ebbs, Brown, Orner" which I have not been reading. However I happened to look at this one and it was about early Centre County history -- not "Ebbs, Brown, Orner." I think this is happening because people are using reply to post general queries. Does anyone else have an opinion on this! or suggestions for the list about email exchange? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Fred, I am new to the list and cant wait to get into' it. I agree with what you have said. There was another mailing list I joined with the same problem. I'm with you here. I will also try and do the same. Mark in Kansas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 10:01 AM Subject: [PACENTRE] Subject Lines I think the obvious solution is that we should all make sure that our information on the "Subject" line agrees with the content of our e-mail. I suspect that I'm as guilty as anyone in doing a "Reply" and quite possibly not always checking on this very thing. If I am a guilty party, I'll try hard to be more cognizant henceforth. I can't speak for others, however. Fred Houts in MN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

I think the obvious solution is that we should all make sure that our information on the "Subject" line agrees with the content of our e-mail. I suspect that I'm as guilty as anyone in doing a "Reply" and quite possibly not always checking on this very thing. If I am a guilty party, I'll try hard to be more cognizant henceforth. I can't speak for others, however. Fred Houts in MN

This is a general comment. Previously if anyone "replied" to an email, it went directly to the person who sent the email and was not posted on the entire list. Since this has changed, there have been a number of problems. One has been the increase in emails that are really replies back and forth on a topic that is possibly of limited interest. (I for one enjoy all the food lore but know that this is not a universal interest.) The other is that the subject lines do not reflect the content of the email. This is a problem for me since with the increased volume, I don't read everything and may be missing out on some information of interest. Example -- there was a response to an email with subject "Ebbs, Brown, Orner" which I have not been reading. However I happened to look at this one and it was about early Centre County history -- not "Ebbs, Brown, Orner." I think this is happening because people are using reply to post general queries. Does anyone else have an opinion on this or suggestions for the list about email exchange?

For a starter on General Philip Benner, "The History of Rock," by Myrtle Magargel. 1940. It is reported that 92 persons came with Philip Benner to what is now Centre County in 1792 from Chester County, PA. Conrad Rimmey kept a boarding house for the group until dwellings could be built for the group. Nancy Lee Stover -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 9:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Good evening all, I am a new "lister" and thought I would try this out. Seems like a good way to gain some insight into early Centre County where my g-g-g grandfather settled in 1802 ish. He worked for a Phillip Benner and Conrad Reamy in the Forges. His name was Casper Ross. Does anybody know of any books or registers, rosters of the early Forges in Pa? Also, could I ask, what ethnicities would have settled the area??? Thanks, Mark in Kansas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Sorry, that should be Jane Brown BRACKENRIDGE whose mother was Unknown BROWN. ----- Original Message ----- From: slbearer<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Hi Sue Am just wondering if you have any theory's as to why Charles McClenahan's middle name is Brown? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner > Last but not least, there is a biography of George B. and Mary (Wingate) > McClenahan in the same book. One of their children was Charles Brown > McClenahan who was born abt 1838 and died 26 Nov 1894 in Milroy, Mifflin, > Pa. He was discharged a Sergeant-Major after serving in the civil war. > He > first married Martha Jane Orner (she was born about 1839 and died in the > 1870's in MIfflin county). They had 3 children, but I could only find 2: > Irene B.(born about 1870) and George (born abt 1873). Both these children > are with their McClenahan grandparents in the 1880 Milroy census as son > Charles is with his new wife Catherine (Kate) Coldren with whom he > eventually also had 3 children.. > > Hope this helps, > Sue > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I second what Justin Houser has said about relationships. My father's only sibling, a brother, died young at age 38 and left two preschoolers. for many reasons his affairs were a mess and it took my father and a family friend several months to straighten things out. In the meantime the family friend's wife died suddenly leaving him with two school aged children. They married about a half year after the deaths of their spouses. They kept in close touch with my parents and me and my sibs over the years. My spouse's family reunion got to the point one year of the ex son in law and his significant other showing up for the same reunion as the daughter and her new spouse. Jean

Good evening all, I am a new "lister" and thought I would try this out. Seems like a good way to gain some insight into early Centre County where my g-g-g grandfather settled in 1802 ish. He worked for a Phillip Benner and Conrad Reamy in the Forges. His name was Casper Ross. Does anybody know of any books or registers, rosters of the early Forges in Pa? Also, could I ask, what ethnicities would have settled the area??? Thanks, Mark in Kansas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Sorry, that should be Jane Brown BRACKENRIDGE whose mother was Unknown BROWN. ----- Original Message ----- From: slbearer<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Hi Sue Am just wondering if you have any theory's as to why Charles McClenahan's middle name is Brown? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner > Last but not least, there is a biography of George B. and Mary (Wingate) > McClenahan in the same book. One of their children was Charles Brown > McClenahan who was born abt 1838 and died 26 Nov 1894 in Milroy, Mifflin, > Pa. He was discharged a Sergeant-Major after serving in the civil war. > He > first married Martha Jane Orner (she was born about 1839 and died in the > 1870's in MIfflin county). They had 3 children, but I could only find 2: > Irene B.(born about 1870) and George (born abt 1873). Both these children > are with their McClenahan grandparents in the 1880 Milroy census as son > Charles is with his new wife Catherine (Kate) Coldren with whom he > eventually also had 3 children.. > > Hope this helps, > Sue > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Sorry, that should be Jane Brown BRACKENRIDGE whose mother was Unknown BROWN. ----- Original Message ----- From: slbearer<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Hi Sue Am just wondering if you have any theory's as to why Charles McClenahan's middle name is Brown? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner > Last but not least, there is a biography of George B. and Mary (Wingate) > McClenahan in the same book. One of their children was Charles Brown > McClenahan who was born abt 1838 and died 26 Nov 1894 in Milroy, Mifflin, > Pa. He was discharged a Sergeant-Major after serving in the civil war. > He > first married Martha Jane Orner (she was born about 1839 and died in the > 1870's in MIfflin county). They had 3 children, but I could only find 2: > Irene B.(born about 1870) and George (born abt 1873). Both these children > are with their McClenahan grandparents in the 1880 Milroy census as son > Charles is with his new wife Catherine (Kate) Coldren with whom he > eventually also had 3 children.. > > Hope this helps, > Sue > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary WINGATE's mother was Jane BROWN. ----- Original Message ----- From: slbearer<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> ; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner Hi Sue Am just wondering if you have any theory's as to why Charles McClenahan's middle name is Brown? Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [PAMIFFLI] Ebbs, Brown, Orner > Last but not least, there is a biography of George B. and Mary (Wingate) > McClenahan in the same book. One of their children was Charles Brown > McClenahan who was born abt 1838 and died 26 Nov 1894 in Milroy, Mifflin, > Pa. He was discharged a Sergeant-Major after serving in the civil war. > He > first married Martha Jane Orner (she was born about 1839 and died in the > 1870's in MIfflin county). They had 3 children, but I could only find 2: > Irene B.(born about 1870) and George (born abt 1873). Both these children > are with their McClenahan grandparents in the 1880 Milroy census as son > Charles is with his new wife Catherine (Kate) Coldren with whom he > eventually also had 3 children.. > > Hope this helps, > Sue > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are different spellings within the family- Aner, Auner, Orner, Urner. Doris

Could be bad hand-writing! Those named are my grandmother's family- she was Martha Matilda. Doris

I think you will usually find it in the dessert section, I think. Jess Davis

Could someone please verify that William Orner shown as Auner on the 1880 census records (Series T9, Roll 1134, Page 70) 2 doors up from Daniel Ebbs is actually William Orner & Elizabeth Cox? Jackson Twp., Huntingdon, PA. Children Anna M., William, Harry, Lillie, Matilda, Clara, Charles. Thanks for any help. Susan

I am just coming in on the tail end of these conversations. A few years ago I copied the information below as something fun to add to my histories as my sisters in law love sweets. Unfortunately I only commented that I found it on line and I don't remember where I saw it. I have not tried it but it sounds good. >>CHOCOLATE GRAVY; I take about 2-3 tablespoons of butter (real butter is best) and melt it over low heat. Combine about 2-3 tablespoons of Hershey's Cocoa and about 3 tablespoons of flour and 1/2 cup of sugar (more or less, depending on how sweet you want it. I sometimes start with a little less.) Stir together to mix and put in with the melted butter and cook just a little to get the flour taste out. Add milk, a little at a time and keep stirring so as not to let it lump. Amount of milk depends on how thick you want your gravy. Not too thick because you want it so that you can sop your biscuits in it. You can add a smidgen of vanilla if you like. When it is done, spoon over hot buttered homemade biscuits and enjoy. Of course at our age, have to watch all of the fattening things, but it is so good in the morning.<< >>And from another; Ah yes, chocolate gravy. I grew up in the boot heel of Missouri and my parents were from Tennessee. Every morning of my young life there was chocolate gravy and biscuits along with milk gravy and biscuits on the table for breakfast. On weekends when the woman folk were not in the cotton fields, there would be fried potatoes to go with it.<< Beverly Carter [email protected] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.1/611 - Release Date: 12/31/2006 12:47 PM