Yes, I did see that Fred. I got this e-mail some time back from Joyce, which makes me more totally confused. I've worked on this family for someone else recently and have some information Earl Lester was born out of wedlock to Savilla Gill. The father was a Moyer and according to the 1900 census of Spring Twp.Savilla Gill was living at home with her father Amos J. Gill. Also in the household was a Blanche Moyer b. 1889 listed as g-daughter of Amos along with Earl L. Moyer g-son. b. 1892. We have court records that show an Andrew Moyer was brought to court for fornication and bastardy in August 1893 by Savilla Gill. It would appear that Andrew Moyer was the father and Savilla had another child born in 1893 to this Andrew Moyer. I believe that in later censuses Lester went by Lester or Earl Gill until he was married in 1912 and then he lists his parents as Ed and Savilla Waite. I believe at one time Earl was living with a Waite family and perhaps changed his name since I never found a Waite connection. When Savilla died her obit lists no children. I hope this makes sense and is of some help. Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Waite's in Pleasant Gap, Centre Co. In a message dated 1/5/2007 8:21:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: I am trying to find the Waite that married Savilla Gill from Pleasant Gap, She was born Aug. 1867 and she married sometime between 1890 & 1900. She had two boy with the last name Moyer which later was changed to Waite. I'LL anxiously await someone responding to your question as I am interested in this too. I show, however, that Blanche Idella (born Moyer) Waite, b 24 Nov 1889, and Earl Lester (born Moyer) Waite, b 22 Jun 1892, were fathered by Andrew Moyer (b 1861), s/o John & Amelia Moyer. Unfortunately, whereever I got this -- failed to document it. Sorry! I'm guessing you've seen this record -- 1900 census, So. Precinct, Spring Twp, Centre Co, PA, Supv Dist 10, E.D. 37, sheet 9-A, lines 12-16, 178/186, census taken 12-14 Jun 1900: "Amos Gill 60, b Jan 1840, head, wid., day laborer; Savilla Gill 32, b Aug 1867, dau, single; Ambrose Gill 16, b Feb 1884, son, single, day laborer; Blanch Moyer 10, b Nov 1889, gr'dau; Earl L. Moyer 7, b Jun 1892, gr'son." All persons and their parents b PA. Fred Houts in MN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Sue, Jim, and any others doing KLECKNER research -- my question: Among my relatives (by mar.) I have Carrie Lizzie Kleckner -- probably actually Carrie Elizabeth -- born 6 Apr 1871 in Lewis Twp, Union Co, PA, d/o Daniel & Mary Elizabeth ( ) Kleckner. Carrie married in Centre County 3-9-1897 to William Franklin McClellan. She had surname of HOUTZ when she m. McClellan. Obviously (from census records) she had at least one child, Edith R. Houtz, b July 1888, by her previous mar. Do any of you know who this Mr. Houtz is who was first husband of Carrie Lizzie Kleckner and the father of Edith R. Houtz? Appreciate any help. Fred Houts in MN

I find that the way Roll Call has been conducted on this list is organized and easy to use. Most of the other lists I receive are also conducting Roll Call this month. They do not seem to adhere to the simple rule of placing the surnames in the subject line, and further details in the body of the message. This makes it so much easier when looking at the in-box to decide to read or delete. Personally, if there are a lot of generic Roll Call messages with no indication of the names, I often just delete them rather than reading each one just to see who is mentioned. Just my 2 cents worth. Thanks, Justin, for making this so user friendly! Ellen Copper

Hoy, Vonada, Roush, Orndorff, Garbrick from Centre Co. and Smith from Lycoming Co. Descendants of Henry Sr. Hoy 1 Henry Sr. Hoy 1771 - 1858 . +Gertraut ? *** ........ 2 Catherine Hoy 1795 - ........ 2 John George Hoy 1796 - *2nd Wife of Henry Sr. Hoy: . +Catherine Vonada 1775 - 1858 ........ 2 John M. Hoy 1804 - 1864 ............ +Susanna Roush 1809 - 1858 ........ 2 Peter Hoy 1807 - 1893 ............ +Mary 1807 - 1860 ........ 2 Jacob Hoy 1808 - 1873 ........ 2 Catherine "Elizabeth" Hoy 1810 - 1877 ............ +--Orndorff ........ 2 Susanna "Anna" Hoy 1811 - 1883 ............ +George W. Gerberich/Garbrick 1807 - 1870 ........ 2 Henry Jr. Hoy 1813 - 1855 ............ +Mary Ann Smith ***1822 - 1862 ........ 2 Solomon Hoy 1818 - 1877 ............ +Caroline 1822 - ........ 2 Margaret Hoy ............ +Benjamin Roush ........ 2 Barbara Hoy 1798 - 1832 ............ +John Berger or Grubbe ---------------- Descendants of James Smith - Lycoming Co. 1 James Smith 1786 - 1859 . +Matilda Shade 1797 - 1852 ........ 2 Valentine S. Smith 1816 - 1893 ............ +Mary A. ........ *2nd Wife of Valentine S. Smith: ............ +Martha Jane Robinson 1816 - 1848 ........ 2 John M. Smith 1818 - *** Moved to Iowa? ........ 2 Kline Smith 1821 - *** Where did he go? ........ 2 Mary Ann Smith 1822 - 1862 ............ +Henry Jr. Hoy 1813 - 1855 ........ 2 Elizabeth Smith 1824 - ***married? ........ 2 Jane Smith 1827 - ***married? ........ 2 Absolome Smith 1834 - Col. in Civil War Thought to have been killed by Indians in MT after the Civil War. ........ 2 Sarah P. Smith 1836 - *** married ***any one have additional information? Jan Hoy

Database: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=marlabarr4 Marlaina Fritz Barr

In a message dated 1/5/2007 8:21:27 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I am trying to find the Waite that married Savilla Gill from Pleasant Gap, She was born Aug. 1867 and she married sometime between 1890 & 1900. She had two boy with the last name Moyer which later was changed to Waite. I'LL anxiously await someone responding to your question as I am interested in this too. I show, however, that Blanche Idella (born Moyer) Waite, b 24 Nov 1889, and Earl Lester (born Moyer) Waite, b 22 Jun 1892, were fathered by Andrew Moyer (b 1861), s/o John & Amelia Moyer. Unfortunately, whereever I got this -- failed to document it. Sorry! I'm guessing you've seen this record -- 1900 census, So. Precinct, Spring Twp, Centre Co, PA, Supv Dist 10, E.D. 37, sheet 9-A, lines 12-16, 178/186, census taken 12-14 Jun 1900: "Amos Gill 60, b Jan 1840, head, wid., day laborer; Savilla Gill 32, b Aug 1867, dau, single; Ambrose Gill 16, b Feb 1884, son, single, day laborer; Blanch Moyer 10, b Nov 1889, gr'dau; Earl L. Moyer 7, b Jun 1892, gr'son." All persons and their parents b PA. Fred Houts in MN

My Kleckners were John Kleckner 1750-1839 and wife Anna Barbara Koch. They are buried in Mifflinburg. There is a Solomon Kleckner buried nearby. Their daughter Maria Christina Kleckner married Mathias Snook. She is buried at Shracktown and Matthis is buried in Loganton with his second wife. Jim in VT

Hi, I'm researching the Baxter and Murray Surnames The most that I know is that my Great Grandfather was born in Centre County Any info would be greatly appreciated

I am trying to find the Waite that married Savilla Gill from Pleasant Gap, She was born Aug. 1867 and she married sometime between 1890 & 1900. She had two boy with the last name Moyer which later was changed to Waite. Any help would be appreciated. Beverly [email protected]

Sue, 1855 was a very bad year for illness in Centre County. Oddly enough, I can find no written records of the event, but have been told on good authority that it was supposed to be typhoid fever. There are many graves in the Bald Eagle Valley which bear dates of 1855. This came on the heels of the dysentery epidemic in 1853, and a terrible outbreak of typhoid fever in Sugar Valley in 1850, which decimated the population to an amazing degree. (Go down the 1850 census of Logan and Greene Twps. and note the number of people for whom the enumerator wrote, "since died.") Justin At 12:22 AM 1/5/2007, you wrote: >Peter married a woman named Mary J., born 1811-1812 in Pennsylvania, >and I have no information on her parentage or her maiden name. At >the time of the 1850 census, they lived in Milesburg Boro. Peter >died in the fall of 1855 at the age of 33. His estate makes no >mention of Mary, so I assume she was no longer living. I suspect >they both succumbed to illness.

Jean, You should contact Addie Beck, [email protected], as she is a Sharp researcher. Have we discussed McCrackens? The McCrackens of Clearfield Co. are all kin to me through the Greenwood line. Justin At 12:24 AM 1/5/2007, you wrote: >I would be interested in The Sharp family. James Sharp married Jane >McCracken b. 1809 and they lived in Clearfield County where Jane was >born. Their >children were Margaret Ann 04/24/1839, Marion 02/05/1841, George >09/05/1843, David >Henry 09/19/1845, William S. 03/26/1848 and Herbert A. 02/28/52. > >I have not been able to trace James Sharp back, but there is a good chance >that he lived or his parents lived in Centre County and that he may have been >Quaker. He lived his married life in the Grampian to Bells Landing area of >Clearfield County. Grampian at that time was mostly Quaker families >and the major >cemetery there is still the Friend's Cemetery and adjoins the land of my >gggrandparents. > >Jean > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 1/4/2007 9:50:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I have a Michael Ziegler who married Elizabeth Murray, d.o. of Levi Murray and Elizabeth Blyler. In my database I have a Michael Ziegler 1800-1873, m. to Mary Ann Murray 1796-1865. My records show that they are bur. in the Salem U.C.C. Cem., of Gregg Twp, Centre Co. I show this Michael as being s/o Peter and Jane Eve (Dawson) Ziegler, but I show no parents for Mary Ann Murray. These are no direct lineal ancestors of mine, so I've not actually worked on them . . . although I do have Ziegler ancestry. I am a descendant of Nicholas [actually John Nicholas] Ziegler 1760-1835 and his wife, Juliana Weigle 1763-1833, who moved to Centre Co. from Codorus Twp, York Co, PA. They died in Gregg Twp, Centre Co., also. FRED

I would be interested in The Sharp family. James Sharp married Jane McCracken b. 1809 and they lived in Clearfield County where Jane was born. Their children were Margaret Ann 04/24/1839, Marion 02/05/1841, George 09/05/1843, David Henry 09/19/1845, William S. 03/26/1848 and Herbert A. 02/28/52. I have not been able to trace James Sharp back, but there is a good chance that he lived or his parents lived in Centre County and that he may have been Quaker. He lived his married life in the Grampian to Bells Landing area of Clearfield County. Grampian at that time was mostly Quaker families and the major cemetery there is still the Friend's Cemetery and adjoins the land of my gggrandparents. Jean

I would be anxious to know as well. My Grandmother's Breth's were in Frenchville. Renee L. Waring -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 2:41 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] Breth Jean, Is your Joseph Breth connected to the Breths who settled in Clearfield County? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Masco" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> > BRETH Joseph Harris 30 Nov 1830 Howard, Centre Co, PA 17 Feb 1897 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

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still trying to discover any information on Johannes and Mary Weyrauch. haven't been able to find them in the 1840, both d. before 1850, haven't been able to find their burial, could be Cambria, family story says Philadelphia. Johannes naturalized in Centre Co. in 1831, naturalization record is apparently incorrect. he states he is from Bergzabern, Bavaria, but all attempts to find him there have failed. children George? 1800-1810 Caroline 1814 Magdelene 1816 John? 1820 Michael Matthew 1823 Francis John 1826 Jacob 1832 the children, except for Jacob who was b. in Bellefonte, Centre, PA, give their places of birth variously as Germany, Bavaria, and Alsace, and Francis always says Pennsylvania but I believe was born in Alsace. I have found a few tax records, but little else for the early years of the family's time in Centre Co. which was quite short as by 1850 they were in Cambria Co. and kept heading west. if anyone finds anything regarding Weyrauch's by any spelling (there's over 47 variant spellings, not counting the miss-spellings of the name by enumerators) prior to 1850 in Centre Co., I'd love to hear from you. Cornelia Oregon

Hi I have a Michael Ziegler who married Elizabeth Murray, d.o. of Levi Murray and Elizabeth Blyler. Do you have Michael in your data files? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 8:51 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] Roll Call > Am researching the following families in Centre County. > > KERN > ROYER > YEARICK/GEORG/JORG > ZIEGLER > > Mollie Seibert Ziegler > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello, Joseph Harris BRETH died in Chest Twp, Clearfield County. And here are the ones in my ROSS/SHANKLE lineage: Johann Peter BRETH b. 24 Feb 1797, Alsheim, GER d. 1871, Holidaysburg, PA & Margarethe JENNINGS\JENNE b. 1797 d. 1848, PA | Catherine BREATH\BREATT | b. 1824, Darmstadt, Germany | d. abt 11 Feb 1901, PA | & David SHANKLE | b. abt 1812, N.J | d. abt 29 Apr 1886, PA? | | Lucinda SHANKLE | | b. 13 Jun 1840, Cherryhill twp, Indiana Co, PA | | d. 21 Oct 1906 | | & Jonathan BUTERBAUGH | | Anna Jane SHANKLE | | b. 1846, Indiana Co, PA | | & Joseph CLARK STEEN | | Margaret L SHANKLE | | b. 22 May 1851, Diamondville, Indiana Co, PA | | d. 24 Sep 1925, Burnside, Burnside twp, Clearfield Co, PA | | & Oliver Westover ROSS | | b. 5 May 1847, Grant Twp, Indiana Co, PA | | d. 21 Oct 1932, Burnside, Wheatfield Twp, Indiana Co, PA | | John H SHANKLE | | b. abt 1853, PA | | Nancy C SHANKLE | | b. 1861 | Susanna BRETH | b. 1826, GER | Nancy BRETH | Margaret BRETH | d. 1845, New Washington, Clearfield Co, PA | Samuel James BRETH | b. 1 May 1839 | Mary Barbara BRETH | Best wishes, Jean On 1/4/07, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, > John > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 23:13:26 EST > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Roll Call > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I am working on: > > Askey > Whiteman > Craft > Swires > Hunter > > Mary Jacox > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:19:36 -0500 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Breth > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I would be anxious to know as well. My Grandmother's Breth's were in Frenchville. > > Renee L. Waring > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 2:41 PM > Subject: [PACENTRE] Breth > > > Jean, > > Is your Joseph Breth connected to the Breths who settled in Clearfield > County? > > Sue > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jean Masco" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > > > BRETH Joseph Harris 30 Nov 1830 Howard, Centre Co, PA 17 Feb 1897 > > > -------------------------------

Hello Looking for a marriage record abt 1879 for William Campbell and Jennie Rooney. Both came threw castle garden and lived in PA before going to Colorado for a few years. They traveled a lot due to mining work. Please if anyone can do any type of a look up that would help a lot. Jennie Rooney parents were Jame Thomas Rooney and Elizabeth Develin all came from scotland at the same time. I have also tryed to find a passanger list for them but to no avail. I have been searching for this marriage for several years now. Vicki