Fred- I agree with you. My Pennsylvania ancestors were mostly Scots-Irish and English and Dutch, not German or "Pennsylvania Dutch" at all. The Scots-Irish ancestors originated in Northampton County PA in colonial times where there were fairly large settlements in Allen township and Mt. Bethel township. Chester county is another county where many Scots-Irish lived in Colonial times. These folks moved on, sometimes together and sometimes not, but they scattered all over the state as well, living together with the Germans. Part of my Scots-Irish family, the JAMES BOYD family, moved to Centre County, Bald Eagle township, when it was still Northumberland. Interestingly, I can tend to think of Northampton County as a "Scots Irish County" because I have looked so much into the families who lived there, but certainly it was also a very strong German county, much of the land being settled by Germans as the Scots-Irish moved on. > From: [email protected]> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:53:56 -0500> To: [email protected]> Subject: [PACENTRE] Pennsylvania Dutch counties> > My opinion is that it is somewhat risky to name certain counties as being > "Pennsylvania Dutch" -- that is, risking slighting people of "Pennsylvania > Dutch" heritage who were in counties other than those cited. I suspect the > Pennsylvania Deutsch (German/Swiss/Huguenot) have an influence in just about > every county of the state and also those counties in Maryland which border on the > Mason-Dixon line.> > My Houtz, Garbrick, Shuey, Ziegler, Shower(s)/Schauer, Etters, Loesch, > Holderman, Shearer/Scherer, and Waltenberger lines were all of "Pennsylvania > Dutch" ancestry, settling in Centre County. Many of them spoke German as > indicated by some of the census records. This would have been "German" of the > Pennsylvania Deutsch dialect, of course.> > It is my guess that the Pennsylvania Dutch have left their imprint just > about everywhere in the state -- although, admittedly, there are some counties > that are more Pennsylvania Dutch than others.> > Fred Houts in MN> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Try amazing new 3D maps http://maps.live.com/?wip=51

I had to make some assumptions in putting this together but could it be a possibility? Jess Davis Descendants of Amos J. GILL - 8 JAN 2007 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First Generation 1. Amos J. GILL1 was born on 1 MAY 1850. He died on 17 NOV 1868.2 He was buried in Zion Union Cem., Walker Twp., Centre Co., PA.3 Amos J. GILL and Elizabeth (WIFE OF GILL, AMOS J.) were married. Amos J. GILL and Elizabeth (WIFE OF GILL, AMOS J.) had the following children: +2 i. Savilla GILL (born in AUG 1867). 3 ii. David E. GILL1 was born about 1868. +4 iii. Sadie E. GILL (born about 1871). 5 iv. Virtue B. GILL.1 6 v. Maggie M. GILL.1 7 vi. Ambrose GILL1 was born about 1884. Second Generation 2. Savilla GILL1 (Amos J.-1) was born in AUG 1867.4 Savilla GILL and (First husband of GILL, Savilla) MOYER were married. Savilla GILL and (First husband of GILL, Savilla) MOYER had the following children: +8 i. Earl Lester MOYER (born in 1892). 9 ii. Blanch Idella MOYER4 was born in 1889. Savilla GILL and (Second husband of GILL, Savilla) WAITE were married. 4. Sadie E. GILL1 (Amos J.-1) was born about 1871. Sadie E. GILL and W. H. BAIRD were married on 24 NOV 1892 in Bellefonte, Centre Co., PA. They were married by John Blair Linn. W. H. BAIRD1 was born about 1863. Third Generation 8. Earl Lester MOYER1,4 (Savilla GILL-2, Amos J.-1) was born in 1892.4 Earl later used the surname of WAITE. Earl Lester MOYER and Effie BAIRD were married.4 Effie BAIRD1,4 (daughter of Harry H. BAIRD and Mary Agnes GILL) was born in JUL 1895 in Potter Co., PA.4 Earl Lester MOYER and Effie BAIRD had the following children: 10 i. Louise M. WAITE4 was born in 1912. 11 ii. Earnest T. WAITE4 was born in 1916. 12 iii. Bassel Earl WAITE4 was born on 7 NOV 1918. 13 iv. Morris WAITE4 was born in 1923. +14 v. Guy WAITE (born on 16 SEP 1924). 15 vi. Rheuben WAITE4 was born in 1927. 16 vii. Mary Ellen WAITE.4 17 viii. Emagene WAITE.4 Fourth Generation 14. Guy WAITE4 (Earl Lester-3, Savilla GILL-2, Amos J.-1) was born on 16 SEP 1924. Guy WAITE and Ellen HACKETT were married. Ellen HACKETT4 was born in 1923. Guy WAITE and Ellen HACKETT had the following children: 18 i. Lester WAITE4 was born on 3 DEC 1947. 19 ii. Donna Mae WAITE.4 +20 iii. Della Jane WAITE. Fifth Generation 20. Della Jane WAITE.4 Della Jane WAITE and Harold W. SNARE were married on 25 JAN 1964. Della Jane WAITE and Donald Leroy SHOUEY were married on 1 MAY 1976. Della Jane WAITE and Donald Leroy SHOUEY had the following children: +21 i. Donald Leroy SHOUEY Jr.. Sixth Generation 21. Donald Leroy SHOUEY Jr..5 Donald Leroy SHOUEY Jr. and Christina Ann CROWDER were married on 29 DEC 1995. Donald Leroy SHOUEY Jr. and Christina Ann CROWDER had the following children: 22 i. SHOUEY.5 23 ii. Curtis Lee SHOUEY5 was born on 25 JAN 1998 in Centre Community Hospital, State College, Centre Co., PA. Prepared by: Jesse Davis Lewistown, PA Voice mail > 717-798-8572 [email protected] Sources 1. Charles R. "Bob" Leitzell, Email <[email protected]>, 06/23/2000. 2. Suzanne Walkowiak Rice, Email <[email protected]>, 09/20/2001 - Zion Union Cem., Centre Co., PA. 3. Ibid., 09/20/2001. 4. Beverly Walker, e-mail message from <[email protected]>, 01/07/2007. 5. Fred R Houts, e-mail message from <[email protected]>, 01/07/2007.

My opinion is that it is somewhat risky to name certain counties as being "Pennsylvania Dutch" -- that is, risking slighting people of "Pennsylvania Dutch" heritage who were in counties other than those cited. I suspect the Pennsylvania Deutsch (German/Swiss/Huguenot) have an influence in just about every county of the state and also those counties in Maryland which border on the Mason-Dixon line. My Houtz, Garbrick, Shuey, Ziegler, Shower(s)/Schauer, Etters, Loesch, Holderman, Shearer/Scherer, and Waltenberger lines were all of "Pennsylvania Dutch" ancestry, settling in Centre County. Many of them spoke German as indicated by some of the census records. This would have been "German" of the Pennsylvania Deutsch dialect, of course. It is my guess that the Pennsylvania Dutch have left their imprint just about everywhere in the state -- although, admittedly, there are some counties that are more Pennsylvania Dutch than others. Fred Houts in MN

thank you for the timeline, Justin, I was interested to see how the area was settled over time, especially in relation to my PA Dutch people....now I wonder if it's possible to narrow it down a bit more...is there a list of people who settled in Centre Co. in the 1830's? preferably in Spring or Bellefonte, but that may be asking to much. especially the early half of the 1800'a? I'm wondering if other German's came with my elusive ancestors, and may either be related or at least from the same town. I did find, from a German archivist, that Schiechen and Schweigen were the same place (a lucky break for me, to pick the right town out of hundreds simply by considering what Schiechen may have been as spoken with a heavy German accent) but that they weren't documented there...a pity, I'm back to square one. and a pity that the naturalization records can't be scanned through, you have to know the individual's name...and guess the spelling used in the record. Cornelia >Message: 21 >Date: Sun, 07 Jan 2007 22:48:42 -0500 >From: Justin Kirk Houser [email protected]> >Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania > Dutch >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: [email protected]> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Centre County's settlement can be understood, briefly, in this way: > >1700s - initial influx of Scots-Irish (Presbyterian) settlers in the valleys >1790s-1840s - "Pennsylvania Dutch" (Lutheran and Reformed, >Evangelical/United Brethren, a few Mennonite) move into the valleys >from the southeastern counties; Scots-Irish push westward and up into >mountainous areas (Snow Shoe, Philipsburg, etc. areas) >c.1800-c.1865 - Many African Americans pass through on the >"Underground Railroad;" a considerable portion stay so that there is >a sizable African American population in Bellefonte by the time of >the Civil War >1830s-1860s - Irish (Roman Catholic) come into the area to work on >the canals, and stay; waves of Irish immigrants follow; newer German >immigrants come into parts of the county, including a small colony >called "Germania" in Burnside Twp. and a number of farming families >in Halfmoon Valley; other nationalities arrive in small numbers (English, etc.) >1880-1920 - Tremendous influx of Italian and Slavic settlers of >various nationalities, settling chiefly around Bellefonte and in the >Snow Shoe/Philipsburg regions, and changing the ethnic composition of >those areas drastically >Post WWII - Penn State attracts residents from all over the world, >particularly to the State College area; moderate numbers of Asians, >Middle Eastern residents, etc., increasing as time continues >1990s - Russian Baptist immigrants begin settlement in Pleasant Gap >and State College areas >

Centre County's settlement can be understood, briefly, in this way: 1700s - initial influx of Scots-Irish (Presbyterian) settlers in the valleys 1790s-1840s - "Pennsylvania Dutch" (Lutheran and Reformed, Evangelical/United Brethren, a few Mennonite) move into the valleys from the southeastern counties; Scots-Irish push westward and up into mountainous areas (Snow Shoe, Philipsburg, etc. areas) c.1800-c.1865 - Many African Americans pass through on the "Underground Railroad;" a considerable portion stay so that there is a sizable African American population in Bellefonte by the time of the Civil War 1830s-1860s - Irish (Roman Catholic) come into the area to work on the canals, and stay; waves of Irish immigrants follow; newer German immigrants come into parts of the county, including a small colony called "Germania" in Burnside Twp. and a number of farming families in Halfmoon Valley; other nationalities arrive in small numbers (English, etc.) 1880-1920 - Tremendous influx of Italian and Slavic settlers of various nationalities, settling chiefly around Bellefonte and in the Snow Shoe/Philipsburg regions, and changing the ethnic composition of those areas drastically Post WWII - Penn State attracts residents from all over the world, particularly to the State College area; moderate numbers of Asians, Middle Eastern residents, etc., increasing as time continues 1990s - Russian Baptist immigrants begin settlement in Pleasant Gap and State College areas At 10:33 PM 1/7/2007, [email protected] wrote: >Hi Marlene, >thanks for the response. I had some early pioneers settle into >Centre county. There cit/nat papers were telling of him from >Holland. I was just getting a feel how settled the area was by the >Dutch. So far, not much! > >Thanks for replying, >Mark in Kansas > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 8:48 PM >Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > > >Hi Mark, > >Pennsylvania Dutch refers more to a people. I live in Upper Bucks County in >Pa, and this area along with Berks, Northampton, Leigh counties have a large >settlement of Pa Duth....they were german speaking people who settled this >area. > >Marlene > >Let music fill your spirit! >Start out by supporting Chamber Arts Guild Chorus >www.chamberartsguild.org > >And for the child in you also > >Check out Mike Ford's latest musical adventure, "Dog Train". >www.boyntonfordmusic.com/products.htm > >"We must be the change we wish to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:58 PM >Subject: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > > > > Hi all, > > I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania > > as Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly > > what counties they would have been. > > Can anybody tell me? > > > > Thank you, > > Mark in Kansas > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > > free AOL Mail and more. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message >________________________________________________________________________ >Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and >security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from >across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah, the Pennsylvania Dutch were not Hollanders or Low Dutch. The Pennsylvania Dutch were Deutsch, that is, German-speakers, chiefly from the Pfalz/Palatinate, the Alsace region of what is now France, and the German-speaking Cantons of Switzerland, such as Bern and Zürich. Those persons who were Dutch from what is now called the Netherlands are a different group of people, although linguistically related, not being considered part of the Pennsylvania Dutch people. Justin At 10:33 PM 1/7/2007, you wrote: >Hi Marlene, >thanks for the response. I had some early >pioneers settle into Centre county. There >cit/nat papers were telling of him from Holland. >I was just getting a feel how settled the area >was by the Dutch. So far, not much! > >Thanks for replying, >Mark in Kansas > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 8:48 PM >Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > > >Hi Mark, > >Pennsylvania Dutch refers more to a people. I live in Upper Bucks County in >Pa, and this area along with Berks, Northampton, Leigh counties have a large >settlement of Pa Duth....they were german speaking people who settled this >area. > >Marlene > >Let music fill your spirit! >Start out by supporting Chamber Arts Guild Chorus >www.chamberartsguild.org > >And for the child in you also > >Check out Mike Ford's latest musical adventure, "Dog Train". >www.boyntonfordmusic.com/products.htm > >"We must be the change we wish to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:58 PM >Subject: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > > > > Hi all, > > I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania > > as Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly > > what counties they would have been. > > Can anybody tell me? > > > > Thank you, > > Mark in Kansas > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > > free AOL Mail and more. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to [email protected] >with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of >the message >________________________________________________________________________ >Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set >of free safety and security tools, free access >to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >email to [email protected] with the >word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >subject and the body of the message

Hi Marlene, thanks for the response. I had some early pioneers settle into Centre county. There cit/nat papers were telling of him from Holland. I was just getting a feel how settled the area was by the Dutch. So far, not much! Thanks for replying, Mark in Kansas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch Hi Mark, Pennsylvania Dutch refers more to a people. I live in Upper Bucks County in Pa, and this area along with Berks, Northampton, Leigh counties have a large settlement of Pa Duth....they were german speaking people who settled this area. Marlene Let music fill your spirit! Start out by supporting Chamber Arts Guild Chorus www.chamberartsguild.org And for the child in you also Check out Mike Ford's latest musical adventure, "Dog Train". www.boyntonfordmusic.com/products.htm "We must be the change we wish to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > Hi all, > I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania > as Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly > what counties they would have been. > Can anybody tell me? > > Thank you, > Mark in Kansas > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Thanks Karl, well it's a start! I was hoping Centre would show up as well and Blair? Mark in Kansas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania as > Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly what > counties they would have been. > Can anybody tell me? This is dangerous, risking the sin of omission. But I'll try: Lancaster Lebanon Dauphin York Berks Schuylkill (?) Lehigh Northampton (?) Snyder Union(?) Montgomery (?) Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania as > Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly what > counties they would have been. > Can anybody tell me? This is dangerous, risking the sin of omission. But I'll try: Lancaster Lebanon Dauphin York Berks Schuylkill (?) Lehigh Northampton (?) Snyder Union(?) Montgomery (?) Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

> I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania as > Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly what > counties they would have been. > Can anybody tell me? This is dangerous, risking the sin of omission. But I'll try: Lancaster Lebanon Dauphin York Berks Schuylkill (?) Lehigh Northampton (?) Snyder Union(?) Montgomery (?) Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA

Hello, Mary! I was just going to e-mail you about the information in the Commemorative Biographies. I got the disc from Bush Books. I was actually looking for something else, and you should have heard me whooping and hollering when I found the reference to William Evans and Rachel Bonner!!! It validated my information about William and Rachel's children. I am going to transcribe the Ellis Evans bio and send it to you. It claims that Rachel and the grandfather of Robert Bonner were siblings. That means that Rachel was born in Northern Ireland. If that is the case, then there might be a passenger record somewhere. William was about 25 when he came to the U.S., so he must have enlisted as soon as he arrived about 1775. The only military record that I have found is his Militia service is in 1782. He was absent the year that Mary/Polly Evans was born and he paid a fine to Colonel Levis. I cannot find the reference today, but I read that William Evans found Rachel wandering about the border area of Northern Ireland when she was quite young and married her. I cannot confirm this information at all!!! I am going on the assumption that William and Rachel are the ones listed in Montgomery County on the 1790 census. If I can find where they lived, then I'll know where to start digging. I will be checking the probate records in Montgomery County for a will, since Chester, Perry, Centre and Lancaster yielded no results. I believe that William made a warrant claim for some land and improved it in Clearfield County, but never came back. There is a reference to him in the Land Warrant Records and in the History of Clearfield County. I believe that all our info on William Evans agrees to date. Rachel's burial is listed in the original records for the Great Island Presbyterian Churchyard in Lock Haven. The burial ground was "removed" and houses built over it, but many of the graves were left in the ground in the 1800's. If no one from our family had the bodies moved, then they are under row houses in Lock Haven. I have had William added to the records as well, based on your father's research. I'll let you know what else I find. Michele DeParasis ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Bonner-Evans > Michelle: > > I saw your name in Roll Call. The Bonners are certainly elusive. > > Did I tell you that I am going to submit William Evans as a supplemental in > the DAR? There wasn't any information on him in their files. Do you have > him dying at Lock Haven and buried at the Old Presbyterian Cemetery west of > Lock Haven Hill near Flemington? > > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mark, Pennsylvania Dutch refers more to a people. I live in Upper Bucks County in Pa, and this area along with Berks, Northampton, Leigh counties have a large settlement of Pa Duth....they were german speaking people who settled this area. Marlene Let music fill your spirit! Start out by supporting Chamber Arts Guild Chorus www.chamberartsguild.org And for the child in you also Check out Mike Ford's latest musical adventure, "Dog Train". www.boyntonfordmusic.com/products.htm "We must be the change we wish to see in the world" Mahatma Gandhi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: [PACENTRE] what counties considered to be Pennsylvania Dutch > Hi all, > I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania > as Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly > what counties they would have been. > Can anybody tell me? > > Thank you, > Mark in Kansas > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security > tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, > free AOL Mail and more. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 1/7/2007 5:27:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: If you ever find out anything about how the moyer children, became Waite's, Please let me no. Maybe they were adopted by some Waites. That does seem, odd, doesn't it? Yes, I'll keep you in mind. Thanks! --Fred

Hi all, I read an email earlier talking about a couple of counties in Pennsylvania as Pennsylvania Dutch. I am familiar with the term but don't know exactly what counties they would have been. Can anybody tell me? Thank you, Mark in Kansas ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

I am seeking family information on the Nathan Harvey's for 2 different Nathans. 1st. Nathan Harvey Per Linns History, Came to Lower Bald Eagle in 1804, in 1805 built store and mill. built his forge in 1812. Then Nathan and Samuel Harvey had a Fulling Mill in 1815. (This was the Mill Hall area, then Nathan was instrumental in forming th Borough of Mill Hall) (Now Clinton County) In 1817 Nathan had a sawmill and Press. in 1827 he is listed as having 2 stores. in 1832 he had a post office in Mill Hall Then on page 204 he is listed as dying in Illinois 4/12/1847 age 47. I believe this to be about the same Nathan Harvey. 2nd Nathan Harvey, was part of the 7th PA Calvary he was killed in Tennessee in 1862, and his na,e is on the Soldiers marker at Cedar Hill cemetery(1827-1862) Lamar Twp., Clinton County, PA. Bunch of questions, are these two Father and son, a nephew? Are these Harveys related to the Harvey family who were part of the creation of Castanea, Clinton County, Pa. Any and all help appreciated. Thanks, Dave

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Michelle: I saw your name in Roll Call. The Bonners are certainly elusive. Did I tell you that I am going to submit William Evans as a supplemental in the DAR? There wasn't any information on him in their files. Do you have him dying at Lock Haven and buried at the Old Presbyterian Cemetery west of Lock Haven Hill near Flemington? Mary

Thanks Sue! Have you done any research in their records? I've never really attempted but know that Irish records are poor due to the burning in 1922 and other events. I know from others that some records have survived -- I've just never approached that on this line. At 06:42 PM 1/7/2007, you wrote: >Interesting article. Just for the sake of accuracy, the town is Ballymena. >I also have family from that area. > >Sue > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Justin Kirk Houser" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 2:18 PM >Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] ROLL CALL: Davidson, Hugg, Resides, Brower, Walker, >Lucas > > > > Hi Myrna, > > > > James Resides, born ca. 1755-1760, was from Ballymona, County Antrim, > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes Fred, I can get you the information. My sister married Lester Waite, brother to Della . I will get back to you in a day or two. If you ever find out anything about how the moyer children, became Waite's, Please let me no. Maybe they were adopted by some Waites. Have a Happy New Year! Beverly [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Waite's in Centre Co. In a message dated 1/7/2007 10:33:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: Guy Married Ellen Hackett born 1923. Guy and Ellen's children; Lester born Dec.3, 1947, Donna Mae, Della Jane Can't help further on the Waite matter at this time, but I've got another related question. This Della Jane (mentioned above) married my cousin, Donald Leroy Shouey, on 1 May 1976. It appears that she'd been previously married 25 Jan 1964 to one Harold W. Snare. My interest, of course, would be in the SHOUEY mar. since that is the line that is related to me. Do you know any specifics concerning the mar. of Della Jane to Don Shouey? I show one child for them, a Donald Leroy Shouey Jr., but I have no birthdate or birthplace for him. Was he an only child? Donald Jr. mar'd 29 Dec 1995 to Christina Ann Crowder, but I have no info on her either. Further, I show tha Donald Jr. and Christina Ann have 2 children: (1) son - no name, no info, and (2) Curtis Lee Shouey b 25 Jan 1998 in Centre Community Hospital, College Township. Can you provide me with any further details on these people? I'd be very grateful for any help you can offer. Thanks. Fred Houts in MN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message