My doctor has told me that so many foods are now loaded with carcinogens that didn't used to be, after I told her about a friend's 35 yr. old daughter who just had a double mastectomy. She wasn't even old enough to start yearly mammograms. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] longevitiy > Justin - agree with your premise of hard work and activity. There are a > couple other things that come into the equation for present day early > demise > also: pollution and junk food. My father's family members all lived into > their > 90's and some past 100 - ggram 107. Only 2 that I can think of who died > early - in their 70s - and they left rural life to live and work in > manufacturing > cities where pollution was poisonous; Akron and Detroit. > > Jan > > > > Blessed Be; Bright Blessings; Beautiful Beginnings; Big Boons; > Bodacious Blockbusters; Brilliant Brainstorms ; Boundless Benefits > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Justin - agree with your premise of hard work and activity. There are a couple other things that come into the equation for present day early demise also: pollution and junk food. My father's family members all lived into their 90's and some past 100 - ggram 107. Only 2 that I can think of who died early - in their 70s - and they left rural life to live and work in manufacturing cities where pollution was poisonous; Akron and Detroit. Jan Blessed Be; Bright Blessings; Beautiful Beginnings; Big Boons; Bodacious Blockbusters; Brilliant Brainstorms ; Boundless Benefits
Marcia: The first posting dealt with an announcement that death certificatesfor those who died in Utah from 1905 to 1954 can now be accessed free of charge online. marcia wilson wrote: >i must have missed the first posting on this. >where can i find death certificates on line for pennsylvania or ny >state? >like others, i am particularly interested in names of parents of the >deceased. >thanks. >marcia >marcia sandmeyer wilson >259 leonia ave. leonia, nj 07605 >please check out my website: >http://marciasandmeyerwilson.com > > >On Jan 25, 2007, at 8:37 PM, rayfri wrote: > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >
Either he isnt following instructions ... or he just wants to rabble rouse Justin Kirk Houser wrote: >Huh? Of course you can get this information. > >At 05:29 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: > > >>I'M DISAPPOINTED. Wouldn't you think that the biggest reason a person >>would want a death certificate is to learn the names of the parents of the >>deceased? Can't get that here. >> >>Yes, the site has an element of helpfulness, but what in the world would be >>the reason to withhold the names of the deceased's parents? I don't get it. >> >>O well! >> >>Fred in MN >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >
Follow the instructions and you will see everything you want to see... 1- enter a name 2- click on search 3- you will sometimes get a list of names .... that will include the person you are looking for and maybe some that are similar. 4- click on the name you want 5- you will be shown the basic index which includes the name, date of death and place of death. you will also be shown a small death certificate 6- click on the small death certificate. 7- a window will open with the actual death certificate in it 8 - if you want to save it, then right click on it like you would any other picture and save it where you want to save it 9- open it in any picture handling program and print it off if you want. 10- If youre not going to try it ... dont knock it. I've done this with half a dozen relatives of my wife so far.. Hasnt failed yet. There have been a couple where the death certificate hasnt been linked yet, but those are relatively few... [email protected] wrote: >I'M DISAPPOINTED. Wouldn't you think that the biggest reason a person >would want a death certificate is to learn the names of the parents of the >deceased? Can't get that here. > >Yes, the site has an element of helpfulness, but what in the world would be >the reason to withhold the names of the deceased's parents? I don't get it. > >O well! > >Fred in MN > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >
Fred: You obviously are not reading the whole thing or listening to others who have been there and used it. You CAN see the parents .. you can see EVERYTHING that you would see on a death certificate. Once you enter a persons name, you get the basic index information .. THEN you click on the name at the index and you will see a small version of the certificate. You click on THAT and you will be shown the FULL SIZE actual death certificate which includes ALL the information you are saying you cant see... [email protected] wrote: >I'M DISAPPOINTED. Wouldn't you think that the biggest reason a person >would want a death certificate is to learn the names of the parents of the >deceased? Can't get that here. > >Yes, the site has an element of helpfulness, but what in the world would be >the reason to withhold the names of the deceased's parents? I don't get it. > >O well! > >Fred in MN > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >
In a message dated 1/25/2007 4:15:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: The online index to 250,000+ Utah deaths was created by the State Office of Vital Records and Statistics and has searchable information limited to the name of the deceased person, their date of death, sex, and where they died. It says. . . "Limited to the name of the deceased person, their date of death, sex, and where they died." Says nothing about naming the parents of the deceased. --FRED
Huh? Of course you can get this information. At 05:29 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: >I'M DISAPPOINTED. Wouldn't you think that the biggest reason a person >would want a death certificate is to learn the names of the parents of the >deceased? Can't get that here. > >Yes, the site has an element of helpfulness, but what in the world would be >the reason to withhold the names of the deceased's parents? I don't get it. > >O well! > >Fred in MN > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'M DISAPPOINTED. Wouldn't you think that the biggest reason a person would want a death certificate is to learn the names of the parents of the deceased? Can't get that here. Yes, the site has an element of helpfulness, but what in the world would be the reason to withhold the names of the deceased's parents? I don't get it. O well! Fred in MN
That's the NORMAL online index that has been around for a long time. With the link to the visual death certificate, you can see EVERYTHING you'd see on a death certificate because you're seeing the actual death certificate. You can even save the picture as a JPEG file and print it out if you want. Try it .. I have and it works... [email protected] wrote: > >In a message dated 1/25/2007 4:15:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >The online index to 250,000+ Utah deaths was created by the State Office >of Vital Records and Statistics and has searchable information limited >to the name of the deceased person, their date of death, sex, and where >they died. > > >It says. . . "Limited to the name of the deceased person, their date of >death, sex, and where they died." Says nothing about naming the parents of the >deceased. --FRED > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >
Seems to me that if a male child survived birth and first years of life and didn't get killed in a war, he usually lived a long life. If a female child survived birth and first years and survived giving birth, she generally lived a long life. Jim in VT
Reading the many PA dutch recipes recently brought to mind my surprise when I first began my genealogy. As I entered names & dates I was astounded to find that 2 and 3 generations ago, my ancestors were living into their 90's and still functioning for themselves. Certainly not the usual life span at that time. They had survived the wonderful, rich, cholesterol filled foods of their heritage. Butter in everything, [lard for pie crusts], dumplings, spaetzle, sticky buns etc. My grandfather said a piece of meat was not good without ample fat which he consumed. By today's standards these people should have died early on from clogged arteries and excess calories. As the king of Siam said, "'tis a puzzlement" Hope I inherited their metabolism. Arline
Arline, If a study were done to derive a more realistic average, I do not doubt that this will hold true in many cases. The major problem with our ancestors was that they had no defense against infant mortality from communicable diseases, bad water, etc. If babies survived the first troublesome years, they had a good chance at living a long time. It is the high rate of infant mortality that brings the average life expectancy down so far in those days. Our ancestors, particularly the farming and rural classes, were extremely hard workers. My great-grandfather Miles Houser simultaneously ran a farm and worked in the local limestone quarries, while maintaining a close relationship with his wife and ten children, an active leadership role in the local church. He lived to 96; his wife lived to 88. Everything was done by hand and it is apparent that the level of activity kept them healthy. I question whether activity might be more important even than diet in such considerations. My great-grandfather Breon, on the other hand, was an insurance agent and businessman who was not physically active, and smoked heavily, and died of a heart attack at age 61. His father, a self-employed carpenter, who carried his tools with him and walked miles to work every day as well as pulling a harrow by himself through the fields, lived to the age of 83. I am convinced that their hard work kept them healthy. The graveyards in the old farming valleys bear testimony to the large number of settlers who lived into their 80s, 90s, and even 100s in some cases. Justin At 03:33 PM 1/25/2007, you wrote: >Reading the many PA dutch recipes recently brought to mind my surprise >when I first began my genealogy. >As I entered names & dates I was astounded to find that 2 and 3 >generations ago, my ancestors were living into their 90's and still >functioning for themselves. Certainly not the usual life span at that >time. They had survived the wonderful, rich, cholesterol filled foods >of their heritage. >Butter in everything, [lard for pie crusts], dumplings, spaetzle, sticky >buns etc. My grandfather said a piece of meat was not good without >ample fat which he consumed. By today's standards these people should >have died early on from clogged arteries and excess calories. >As the king of Siam said, "'tis a puzzlement" >Hope I inherited their metabolism. >Arline > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Mimi: Thank you for all of your great information. I have some queries out there and I am hoping to hear from someone. Michele DeParasis ----- Original Message ----- From: "geniebugged" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Irish research - Added info in ULSTER link just sent > Armagh and Londonderry [now DERRY] County Townlands - > > >From this site: > > http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ulster_townlands_by_county.html > > with this: > Antrim > Armagh > Down > Fermanagh > Londonderry > Tyrone > > To the right side of page is a list of the actual PARISHES - stating what > nty > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of geniebugged > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:06 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACENTRE] Irish research - Some good starting points = > thisside o' the pond > > Armagh and Londonderry [now DERRY] County Townlands - > > >From this site: > > http://www.ulsterancestry.com/ulster_townlands_by_county.html > > with this: > Antrim > Armagh > Down > Fermanagh > Londonderry > Tyrone > > **************************** > > Don't be hesitant to put your IRISH [or other ancestors] name in the > requests - One never knows what will surface for a connection - > > Before investing in research dollars - try to verify/or see what year > Shown on later census /A person was naturalized - those documents obtainable > here [USA] > Minimal chg and do contain a lot of information > > In roostweb we have these two lists - well worth joining as the people here > are as helpful as the PA-CENTRE list > > To join either [or both] > > [email protected] and [email protected] > > with the word subscribe > > in both subject line and body - no tags etc > > and remember - roostweb still has a free tree search - > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi > > Fish around using variations [spellings] as my O'Neil aka > ONEAL/O'Neal/O'Neill=2 ls > > Mimi Taylor > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
This news release was just sent out today..... In case anyone has Utah ancestors.. SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH—FamilySearch™, in conjunction with the Genealogical Society of Utah and the Utah State Archives and Records Service announced today that the state’s free online index to death certificates is now linked to original images of the historic documents. The integration of the index with free digital pictures of the death certificates issued from 1905 to 1954 by the state will open doors to additional information for family historians and genealogists with Utah ties. To search the index and view the certificates, users need to go to http://historyresearch.utah.gov/indexes/index.html. The online index to 250,000+ Utah deaths was created by the State Office of Vital Records and Statistics and has searchable information limited to the name of the deceased person, their date of death, sex, and where they died. The Utah State Archives turned to FamilySearch to help them get the digital images online. FamilySearch digitized the images and provided the technology to link the images of the certificates to the state’s online index. The linking process was completed incredibly fast for a project of this nature and magnitude—a few weeks. The names of Utah’s deceased are now very much alive, searchable, and viewable online—and for free. “There is so much more information of family history importance that can be found on the certificate itself,” said Glen Fairclough, processing and reference archivist for the Utah State Archives. Before making the certificates viewable online, Fairclough said patrons had to order copies through the mail for a fee or visit the state archives office in person. “The value of viewing the image of the original death certificate is that it saves you time, money, and provides rich genealogy data for the family historian,” said Paul Nauta, manager of public affairs for FamilySearch. Captured on a death certificate are the names and birth places of the deceased person’s parents, place and date of the decedent’s birth, marital status, occupation, permanent residence, place and date of burial, time of death, chief cause and contributory factors of death, and if applicable, where illness was contracted and the duration of the illness. The user merely needs to type in an ancestor’s name that died in Utah between 1905 to 1954, and they will be directed to a brief summary of the ancestor’s death certificate with a link to view the original image. Users need to simply click on the certificate image to see a larger, high quality view of the original death certificate. For more information about the FamilySearch digital image linking technology or services, record custodians should contact Brad Wilkes, [email protected] FamilySearch is a nonprofit affiliate of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It maintains the world’s largest repository of genealogical resources with vital records from over 110 countries, territories and possessions. FamilySearch promotes family history (genealogical) preservation and access efforts through the services of FamilySearch.org, the Genealogical Society of Utah, the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, and over 4,500 family history centers in 70 countries.
I am looking for Mary Elizabeth Burkett,born about 1860?, daughter of Joseph Burkett and Susan _____. She married William A Palmer/Parmer. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Cathi
Ok great. Let me get through this other information on the family & see if I can find anything on John. I will know exactly where to look then, thank you. I am pretty certain I do have Garvin's in our Ebbs line also. If you have it handy there that you can scan & send it might be a little easier for me then to have to go back & check the archives. I don't know if I ever checked the archives of Mifflin Co. before. Thanks for the information. Looking back at my Anna M. Ebbs. I see James Harry Ebbs did have a Mary Anna but she is accounted for. Descendants of James Harry are the ones that sent me new information on their family. You never know what could be in there though. Jeremiah's siblings are James Harry who married George W. Baker. He was a Methodist Minister & they moved to Kansas. George Lyon Ebbs married A. Winifred Porter. I do not show them leaving Centre Co. Harry Gray Ebbs married Barbara Ellen Beck then Anna E. Heberling. They also appeared to have stayed in Centre Co. Eva Luella Ebbs b. 03/1868 she was a music teacher & died in Tyrone, PA Blair Co. My missing Anna M. was the daughter of Jeremiah [Emanuel II, Emanuel I] Ebbs & Sarah H. [last name of Sarah H. unknown at this time]. Children of Jeremiah & Sarah 1. Ellsworth J. Ebbs b. 1861 in Center Co. I don't have him past 1882. He married Charlotte Zone on 08/31/1882 in Centre Co. 2. Maria Elizabeth (Lizzie) was living in California at the time of her brother John Wilson's death on 10/06/1938. I really don't have to much on her either, perhaps she is a connection on the new information I received. I remember seeing California there somewhere. 3. Wilson John b. 08/21/1864 d. around 10/06/1938. John Wilson lived in Altoona, PA Blair Co., but died in DuBois, PA where he died at the hospital from a fall at work. He married Elizabeth Ellenberger b. 01/21/1862 in Halfmoon Twp. She died around 02/22/1939 at the home of her son Chester in Port Matilda. John & Elizabeth's children were Chester, Louis B., Paul G., Samuel Clyde & Ralph E. 1900 & 1910 the family was living in Wilkinsburg, Allegheny Co., PA Ward 2 & on Jeanette St. In 1920 John lived in Altoona & Lizzie lived with her brother in Halfmoon Twp., Centre Co., PA. 4. Anna M. B. Abt. 1869. 07/14/1870 Centre Co. 1 year old, 1880 Anna M. 11. Centre Co., Taylor Twp. That's all I have on this Anna M. are no marriage records in Centre Co. or Cambria County on her & no death record in Centre Co. on her. Anything there look at all familiar? ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasson To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:58 PM Subject: Re: Ebbs Susan, No, I didn't get the previous note. If I remember correctly, I got the information when I still subscribed to Ancestry.com. I have the rest of the information you would need if you would like to send for it. Directions are at the following website: http://olivetreegenealogy.com/articles/persi.shtml In addition, I also copied a post from Barbara Lake Peters on Jan. 2, 1999, on the Mifflin County, PA Query Forum about Emmanuel Ebbs (1743 - 1840), whose lineage led to a Bess Garvin who was eligible for DAR status. This info was taken form a DAR lineage book, also on Ancestry. It has Barbara's email as [email protected] . She is also researching Ebbs. I can scan and send the information if you want it. Let me know if you find anything "juicy"! Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: Hasson Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: Re: Ebbs Did you receive a reply from me regarding this? I had just finished off a note about a half hour or so ago & sent if off but apparently the internet was down for a little bit so I figure it is gone. Anyways, just wanted to let you know Emanuel I who fought in the Revolutionary War was my Emanuel. If your Anna is connected I am sure he would have been an ancestor of hers also. I was not aware of a John in the Revolutionary War. Is that information on-line? I believe there is a John in the information I just received. Hopefully, I will be able to get to look over the new information I've received in the next day or 2. Susan -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Hasson" <[email protected]> Susan, I found the funeral card for Anna Mary and the dod was April 18, 1955. It seems to me that I have more information about her, but, I have been trying to "organize" my things, and , well. . . I'm sure you know. I did print off an application for a death certificate and am sending that on today. I also found a paper that I had printed from the internet in 2000 from the Periodical Source Index which has a few Ebbs surnames. One is "Emmanuel Ebbs, 1743 - 1840, Revolutionary War, Eng: Maryland and Pennsylvania." Another is "Ebbs Family, Renfrew Co., Ontario", and the third is "John Ebbs, Revolutionary War, VA". From what I can find now, it costs $7.50 for the article and then so much for each page. Are you familiar with these names and places? Is this one of the Emmanuels from your research? I will see what else I can find that is fact. I remember calling the funeral home that has Anna's records so I'll have to find those notes!! Talk to you soon. Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: slbearer To: Hasson Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: Re: Ebbs Hi Debbie All the Ebbs in Centre County are related & I am aware of some of our Ebbs moving into Blair Co also. That would be great if we could connect another Ebbs. Good luck, it's not like she's the only Ebbs out there we haven't been able to connect yet. I am hoping to find lots more with this new information. Now all I need is the chance to get to it. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasson To: slbearer Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Ebbs Susan, I saw your note on the Blair list. There was no obituary in the Pgh. papers, but, I have some other information that I don't have at my fingertips right now. I will check that information and get back to you. There were Hasson's in Blair and Centre Counties during the time periods you mentioned, so that may have been where Anna met the Hassons. Thanks for your help. If I send for her death certificate, maybe that will help. Until later, Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: slbearer To: Hasson Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 12:55 AM Subject: Re: Ebbs No guarantees but I would bet your Anna fits in there somewhere. I do not have any proof as of yet but I am missing a Anna M. B. Abt 1869 in Pa. Daughter of Jeremiah Ebbs [Emanuel II, Emanuel I] & Sarah ? 07/14/1870 Halfmoon Twp., Centre Co., PA. Annie 1. 1880 Taylor Twp. Centre Co., Anna M. 11. I have nothing on her after that. Do you have an obituary or anything else to go on? We had other Ebbs families move towards that way & go into the Pgh area. I have an Annie from Sewickly Twp., who I am not sure if I have ever been able to place. Just something I remember as a child. There are also other Ebbs children in the Pgh area that have not been explained yet. I do not believe Jeremiah's daughter Anna is connected to them though. More research is definately needed. I think we should post that question to the Cambria website & see if anyone bites. Which website did you pick up this note on? Any other information you could possibly find would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the information. She will definately be kept in mind on this search. I will let you know if I come across anything. I have to run for now though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hasson To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:42 PM Subject: Ebbs I have never seen my Ebbs on any list! My Father-in-law's grandmother was Anna Mary Ebbs (dod = 1955). She lived in the Allentown section of Pgh. at her death and was married to a Harry Schwarm, so she would have been Anna Schwarm. Does this fit with Emanuel? The only other thing I know about her is that she must have lived in Beaver County for a while as she had a child out of wedlock (we think) to Charles C. Stone of Vanport, PA Debbie Hasson Natrona Heights, PA
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Justin, I am related to the Brossman's of Berks Co. The married into Lorah and Weinhold, Frankhouser Families. William Brossman 1831-1909 married Sallie Frankhouser and they started the Denver and Ephrata Telohone and Telegraph Co. known today as D &E Communications, Inc. of Ephrata, Pa. Would love to hear about your Brossman ancestors. John Lorah married Elizabeth Brossman, Her parents were Jacob Brossman and Maria Ann Lester His Parents were George Lorah and Elizabeth Weinhold, my gggranparents buried at Reamstown, Lancaster Co. Marge [email protected] -------------- Original message -------------- From: Justin Kirk Houser <[email protected]> > Sue, > > I have nothing on this Lola but would love to share info on this > line. Jared Fisher's mother was a BROSSMAN from Berks Co. and they > tie into my Loesch/Heyl/Becker ancestry down there. > > Justin > > > At 01:20 PM 1/24/2007, you wrote: > >Good Afternoon, > > > >I'm looking for information on Lola Miriam Ulrich. She's a > >granddaughter of Jared B. and Sarah Louisa Fisher who were from Penn > >Hall and the daughter of Clara and T. Benton Ulrich who were married in > >1885. Clara died when she was 30 and T.B. Ulrich remarried. Lola was > >living with her aunt Mary Catherine Fisher, who never married, in Centre > >Hall when Mary died in 1924. She was mentioned as Lola Lusk in a will > >dated after 1924. > > > >Any information would be appreciated. > > > >Thanks, > >Sue > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message