Gleanings from my computer: From: paceshire@juno.com To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Mar 18 2006 - 9:21pm I disagree that John Pace Jr.,son of John Pace Sr. of Middlesex mother was Mary, but rather Elizabeth who most claim was Elizabeth Newsome. John Pace Sr. did not marry Mary Muray untill 10, feb. 1718. John Pace Jr. married Elizabeth Montague 24, Oct.1717. If your claim that John of Middlesex was married before Elizabeth to a Mary there is absolutly no proof af any history of John of Middlesex recorded before purchase of 150 acre plantation from Henry Nicholls in 1693.(Deed book 1a-pp588,591 Middlesex County Virginia.) Both John Jr to Elizabeth Montague and John Sr to Mary Murray marriages recorded Christ Church Parish Register p 116..Yurechko edition. If you are refering to the Hungar Parish bapt.28, April 1661) there has never been any proof of a connection between the Hungar Parish Paces with the Middlesex Paces. Jack Pace/ Wmsburg Va. Found the data on Elizabeth: Christenings Christ Church Parish Registers Middlesex Co. Virginia SARAH d/o JOHN & Elizabeth Pace bap 22 Apr 1694 JOSEPH Sr. b. 1698 MARG't d/o JOHN & Elizabeth Pace b. 15 Mar 1701/2 MARY d/o JOHN & Elizabeth Pace bap 23 Jul 1704 JANE d/o JOHN & Elizabeth Pace bap 22 Sep 1706 NEWSOME s/o JOHN & Elizabeth Pace bap 06 Feb 1708 GEORGE s/o JOHN & Elizabeth Pace b.08 Jan 1715 Bap16 Jan. So I don't see why Elizabeth is in doubt. Roy Johnson