Thanks Joe and Kim, for your reply. And I agree Kim, before we carve this in stone we definately need the original document to make sure someone hasn't changed the wording.... I am really beginning to have reservations about taking earlier researchers word for anything. It has been proven that they tamper with the wording. I really don't understand why anyone, earlier researchers as well as current researchers, would state as documents but enter it in their own statement form according to their own personal discernment [instead of entering the actual document word for word] OR extract only a tidbit of the actual document OR change Julian dates to Gregorian dates without out explanation. To me this just shouldn't be done. Only the word for word document should be stated [without changing the wording according to how they themselves discern it] and also include where the document was found. Agree? ~Kathlynn~