Joe has written that " To my mind, the Pace Y chromosome study has proven conclusively that two Pace lines (John of Middlesex and Richard of NC) did not descend from a common male ancestor here in America." and also "..... the Pace DNA study has not proven that either group descends from Richard Pace of Jamestown." I have not followed the posts about the DNA testing too carefully. I was interested in learning a connection of John of Middlesex to Richard Pace of Jamestown and when I read there was none, I didn't follow through to learn that there is no connection of Richard of NC to Richard of Jamestown either. Question - would you identify the Richard of NC... is this the line that has "always" been thought to be directly connected to Jamestown? And have there been any lines definitely connected, by DNA, to Richard of Jamestown?