Hi All, the question was asked would a Grnfather name a child born out of wedlock .. John R Pace of Harlan Co Ky named four Grandchildren in his probate all with different fathers names one of his daughter Had these children .. 3 of them carried the Pace name one of them Carried the Natural fathers name.. think in part because his father did reconize him..when he was older ..altho he also was a married man and after his wife died he claimed the King son the other fathers were also married men who made a visit apparently to John R Pace 's daughter ..We got the Death Cert and all had different fathers names.. same Mother ....Has Anyone tried to get Death Cert of McDaniel Pace ?? Darlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 > Arguing just on the basis of probabilities, it seems to me that since > John Pace named McDaniel as his grandson and gave him land, he > probably really was the child of one of John Pace's children. Would > he claim as his grandson a child born out of wedlock to his son's > wife? Anything's possible I suppose, but given that > > (a) the bond says his mother was Zilpha Pace and > (b) the bond also shows he was born out of wedlock and > (c) John Pace called him grandson and > (c) John Pace's daughter Zilpha Pace seems to have had an > illegitimate daughter > > ...putting all those things together and it seems to me to make sense > that Zilpha Pace (later Garner) was his mother. If she had a > relationship (or was taken advantage of) and it lasted for a few > years, and two children resulted, she wouldn't be the first young > girl that that happened to. > > Is there one of these bonds for the girl "Frances E." or "Bettie", I wonder? > > Ellen > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe send email to PACE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the one word message: subscribe OR unsubscribe > For digest mode, use PACE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > __________ NOD32 1.1371 (20060118) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

My question was different. Sorry if it wasn't very clear. Larry suggested that McDaniel's mother could have been Zilpha Batten Pace, John Pace's daughter-in-law. I was asking, "if that were the case would John Pace have been likely to name the child as grandson, given that he would NOT have been John Pace's grandson or any blood relation at all?" Personally I think the answer is no, but as I said before, anything is possible. Ellen At 07:30 19/01/2006 -0800, darlene wrote: >Hi All, the question was asked would a Grnfather name a child born out of >wedlock .. John R Pace of Harlan Co Ky named four Grandchildren in his >probate all with different fathers names one of his daughter Had these >children .. 3 of them carried the Pace name one of them Carried the Natural >fathers name.. think in part because his father did reconize him..when he >was older ..altho he also was a married man and after his wife died he >claimed the King son the other fathers were also married men who made a >visit apparently to John R Pace 's daughter ..We got the Death Cert and all >had different fathers names.. same Mother ....Has Anyone tried to get Death >Cert of McDaniel Pace ?? >Darlene >----- Original Message ----- >From: <genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net> >To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:10 AM >Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Funding for "illegitimate" line MCDANIEL PACE b. 1856 > > > > Arguing just on the basis of probabilities, it seems to me that since > > John Pace named McDaniel as his grandson and gave him land, he > > probably really was the child of one of John Pace's children. Would > > he claim as his grandson a child born out of wedlock to his son's > > wife? Anything's possible I suppose, but given that > > > > (a) the bond says his mother was Zilpha Pace and > > (b) the bond also shows he was born out of wedlock and > > (c) John Pace called him grandson and > > (c) John Pace's daughter Zilpha Pace seems to have had an > > illegitimate daughter > > > > ...putting all those things together and it seems to me to make sense > > that Zilpha Pace (later Garner) was his mother. If she had a > > relationship (or was taken advantage of) and it lasted for a few > > years, and two children resulted, she wouldn't be the first young > > girl that that happened to. > > > > Is there one of these bonds for the girl "Frances E." or "Bettie", I >wonder? > > > > Ellen > > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > > To subscribe or unsubscribe send email to PACE-L-request@rootsweb.com with >the one word message: subscribe OR unsubscribe > > For digest mode, use PACE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1371 (20060118) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > >