Interesting new results posted from donor 55605 showing that this person is in group 3a but an interesting mutation in marker 23. Also, I made changes in the explanation of groups 3a and 3b. I became confused between the three Richards mentioned in the Winifred Aycock Lane letter (her father, grandfather, and great grandfather), and no one caught it and yelled at me. Please read the new explanations in the Results page and see if they make sense. For those who may be unfamiliar with the Lane letter: We have hard evidence that Richard of Jamestown had son George and grandson Richard, but here the paper trail vanishes. The only record we have of possible descendents was written in 1791 by an old lady, Winifred Aycock Lane, relying on her memory as told to her by her mother. She says her father was Richard and Grandfather was Richard, Jr., and that they came from Virginia in a place where "five counties meet". No such place has been found, but it is assumed (but not proven) that her great grandfather Richard was the aforementioned grandson of Richard of Jamestown. She gives the names of her grandfather's brothers. Those same names were found in North Carolina and assumed to be the brothers. DNA evidence supports that these Paces had a common ancestor within the necessary time span, thus supporting (but not proving) that they are brothers and could be descendents of Richard of Jamestown. In addition, the lone UK Pace in this group, whose ancestry is from London, matches closely enough to lead to the conclusion that the common ancestor was from London, as Richard of Jamestown was. To see three versions of the Lane letter and discussion, go to the Pace Network: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/documnts/aycock.htm Roy Johnson DNA coordinator