No research has been done because no record has been found of who either of their parents were. On the Pace Network there is an article and speculation, as follows: Who were the ancestors of Richard and Isabella? They have not been discovered for certain, but Leatha Betts offers the following possibilities: For Isabella--here's a possibility: ENGLISH ADVENTURERS AND EMIGRANTS, 1609-1660 by Peter Wilson Coldham, Publ. Baltimore, 1984 p. 21, Wife of William Perry, Izabell (Widow of Richard Pace) 26 Aug 1629 mentions she is aged 40. (Amended land patent date 26 Aug 1627.) Therefore, she would have been born between September 1588 and August, 1589, if this is an exact age. Pub. Registers of England Christening Isabell Smyth, father John Smyth, St. Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England 4 May 1587. According to the birth date, this would make her 42 in 1629, which is pretty close. Folks didn't always give their exact date. The parish of St. Clement Danes is on the west side of London, near Westminster (see map) probably no more than 3 miles from Wapping. For Richard--here's a Richard Pace about the right age, but no proof it is the same one: Par Registers of England, Christenings, Kingston-Upon-Thames, Surrey, England 24 Aug 1580, father Richard Pace. Leatha doesn't say, but the baby was obviously a Richard Pace also and is a candidate for being "our" Richard. This would make him 7 years older than Isabell if she is Isabell of St. Clement Danes. The URL for this and other interesting information is: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/jtown.htm But why not visit the Pace Network and scroll down? You will be surprised at the articles: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/ In the records that I have seen of London area at the time of Richard, I have seen very few Georges. There have been some attempts to link him to this Richard Pace: (From the Pace Network) Richard Pace, who in 1591 held a close in West Ham, across the river Lea from Wapping (where Richard of Jamestown lived) and Stepney (where he was married). A "close" is a short street leading to a building of note, such as an abbey or manor, with the buildings on both sides. The close was called "Wellfield" and was in the Abbey Marsh section of West Ham. (The date is right as Richard was born probably c. 1585) For the entire article see: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/documnts/dr-pace.htm But all of these are just speculation. No documents have been found regarding either of their parents. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: Betty A. Pace [mailto:bapace2@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:41 AM To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [PACE-L] Isabel Smythe Has any definitive research been done on the parents of Isabel Smythe? I know from researching my mother's English-Welsh family that English people most often followed a naming pattern for their children. That suggests that either the father of Richard I or the father of Isabel was a George, thus accounting for the name of their first son. Also generally English people married in the home parish of the bride. Betty Pace ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace

Roy Johnson wrote: > > Pub. Registers of England Christening Isabell Smyth, father John Smyth, St. > Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England 4 May 1587. If anyone wants to look up Smythe; LDS batch numbers for St Clement Danes Westminster,St Clement Danes,C041601/2/3, M035243 Westminster,St Clement Danes,,M041601/3 GTPace

Roy, Was it also Leatha Betts who originally discovered a Richard Pace in Kingston upon Thames parish register? If so, I would like to mention credit to her on the web page I made up, a few years ago, which shows this Richard Pace in Kingston PR. and his likely parents marriage, the year before. http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/uk/kingston.htm Richard PAYSE + Spouse: Anne BROWNE Marriage 15 Jun 1579 KINGSTON upon Thames, Surrey LDS - M015493 Richard PACE Christening: 24 Aug 1580 KINGSTON Upon Thames, Surrey LDS - P015491 Possibly RICHARD of JAMESTOWN GTPace ------ Roy Johnson wrote: > No research has been done because no record has been found of who either of > their parents were. > > On the Pace Network there is an article and speculation, as follows: > > Who were the ancestors of Richard and Isabella? They have not been > discovered for certain, but Leatha Betts offers the following possibilities: > > For Isabella--here's a possibility: > > ENGLISH ADVENTURERS AND EMIGRANTS, 1609-1660 by Peter Wilson Coldham, Publ. > Baltimore, 1984 p. 21, Wife of William Perry, Izabell (Widow of Richard > Pace) 26 Aug 1629 mentions she is aged 40. (Amended land patent date 26 Aug > 1627.) Therefore, she would have been born between September 1588 and > August, 1589, if this is an exact age. > > Pub. Registers of England Christening Isabell Smyth, father John Smyth, St. > Clement Danes, Westminster, London, England 4 May 1587. > > According to the birth date, this would make her 42 in 1629, which is pretty > close. Folks didn't always give their exact date. The parish of St. Clement > Danes is on the west side of London, near Westminster (see map) probably no > more than 3 miles from Wapping. > > For Richard--here's a Richard Pace about the right age, but no proof it is > the same one: > > Par Registers of England, Christenings, Kingston-Upon-Thames, Surrey, > England 24 Aug 1580, father Richard Pace. > > Leatha doesn't say, but the baby was obviously a Richard Pace also and is a > candidate for being "our" Richard. This would make him 7 years older than > Isabell if she is Isabell of St. Clement Danes. > > The URL for this and other interesting information is: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/jtown.htm > > But why not visit the Pace Network and scroll down? You will be surprised > at the articles: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/ > > In the records that I have seen of London area at the time of Richard, I > have seen very few Georges. > > There have been some attempts to link him to this Richard Pace: (From the > Pace Network) > > Richard Pace, who in 1591 held a close in West Ham, across the river Lea > from Wapping (where Richard of Jamestown lived) and Stepney (where he was > married). A "close" is a short street leading to a building of note, such > as an abbey or manor, with the buildings on both sides. The close was called > "Wellfield" and was in the Abbey Marsh section of West Ham. (The date is > right as Richard was born probably c. 1585) > > For the entire article see: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/documnts/dr-pace.htm > > But all of these are just speculation. No documents have been found > regarding either of their parents. > > Roy Johnson