Very true. Patience is a virtue, they say. Thanks for the explanations. Ellen At 13:34 31/01/2006 -0800, Rebecca Christensen wrote: > But at this point, we probably just need to wait to see what the > upgrade test results indicate - whether a shared ancestry is > suggested or whether the whole theory just falls apart with several > more mutations. > > Rebecca > >Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:20:47 -0800 (PST) >From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> >Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Wapping to Rotherhithe -DNA testing >To: Pace-L@rootsweb.com > > Ellen, > Here is my understanding - which appears to be the same as > what you said - just worded differently. If the ancestry of George > Pace of 1859 can be traced back, and then a descendant found > through another son of one of his ancestors was also tested and > this other descendant did not have the "extra" mutations that > appears in participant #8179 test results, but is a closer match to > Group 3a, then yes the DNA results would be more convincing that > there is a shared ancestor between Group 3a and #8179. > Unfortunately, the DNA tests by themselves can't tell us who > the shared ancestor might be. That still requires genealogy research. > This same process of DNA testing needs to be done between > Groups 3a and 3b as they are believed to also share an ancestor, > long believed to be Richard Pace of Jamestown. We have so few > actual Pace lines represented in the DNA study for the NC > Paces. Most participants have been those who have questions about > their lines - not those who believe they can trace their lines > back. We need additional NC Pace lines to be tested especially > those who believe they can trace their lines back so we can > hopefully find the generation and family where the genetic split > occurred between Groups 3a and 3b. > > Rebecca > >genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net wrote: > Let's see if I can get my head round this. > >On the "rules" page FTDNA says of a 33/37 match: >"If several or many generations have passed it is likely that these >two lines are related through other family members. That would >require that each line had passed a mutation and one person would >have experienced at least 2 mutations. The only way to confirm is to >test additional family lines and find where the mutations took place. " > >So the research that is needed is to find out if possible whether >#8179's great grandfather or great great grandfather (or further back >if possible) had any male siblings with descendants. If yes, and if >any of them could be traced and agreed to participate, and if any of >them showed an even closer match with 3a (say, a 35/37 match), that >would be very convincing, have I got it right? > >Ellen > > > > > >==== PACE Mailing List ==== >Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at >http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace