Let's all hope the Pace Society is never without a historian.... The only reason I've delved so deeply into this is that I'm a triple Bradford descendant (through two of Rebecca Pace's grandchildren) and a double Whitaker descendant who were also in the Jamestowne area very early. Sort of leaves me with only a few paternal lines to look at. (and a triple Crowell descendant - family that married into the other two lines) Although I've spend a great deal of time trying to sort out the Bradford/Whitaker lines with original documents, I 'assumed' the Pace folks had that line covered. Long story short, I'll make an effort to collect them and pass along concerning Richard, George, Richard, Richard. Nobody seems to be stepping forward if they do have these copies and once again confusion reigns in my small world of family trees.... If you have a list or recommendation of what we need - please send it to me. Regards, Becky

That's a great offer, Becky. Thank you. I guess probably a lot of the evidence we would dearly like to have is just no longer there. For instance, we would like to know whether George (son of Richard and Isabella) had more than the one son Richard. The wording of the deed of 25 Feb 1658/9 seems to allow for that possibility (perhaps a son of a second marriage), but there's probably little chance of discovering evidence. And secondly of course what we would all most like to know is the number and names of the children of Richard (George, Richard). Well, those two questions may be unanswerable, but here is a third question which would may be less of a brick wall: what was the name of Mary who was granted administration on the estate of her deceased husband Richard Pace in Feb 1677/8? Mary was married to her Richard Pace by 13 March 1661/2, when he sold to Richard Taylor land in which Mary apparently had an interest. It would be interesting to know why her consent was required. It might point to who her parents were, or perhaps to a previous marriage. The land is described as: "...land on Powells Creek beginning at Buckland Island up creek to road called Hawksnest to Reedy Bottoms as far as Wm. Wilkins plantation..." If only it could be discovered who originally patented that land, it might reveal Mary's parentage. Another interesting question: why was this Richard Pace an executor of the estate of Hugh Kirkland, and why did Mary take the orphans? It may mean nothing, but it COULD mean that there was a closer relationship between Richard and Mary and Hugh Kirkland than we at present know of. For instance, Mary could have been a Kirkland. There is the court case brought by Thomas Kirkland (one of the orphans?) on 3 Aug 1692, against Nicholas Whitmore and his wife Mary as executrix of her deceased husband Richard Pace one of the executors of Hugh Kirkland. In your notes which you posted, it is suggested that this case had something to do with orphan Hannah Pitt. Well, I am speculating that perhaps Hannah's mother was born Hannah Kirkland and married a Pitt, and now the orphan's uncle Thomas is trying to get the estate of Richard Pace dec'd to pay money which Thomas thinks is owed to Hannah. Only speculation of course. And my final question: is it proved that the "relict of Richard Pace" who married Briscoe is the same person as Mary, widow of Richard Pace who subsequently married Nicholas Whitmore? The Briscoe marriage seems very unexpected, and unconnected with the people Richard and Mary Pace were otherwise involved with. You mention in your notes that William Briscoe left everything to Ann Holden (Holder). She seems to have been his daughter-in-law, according to a post on the HOLDER-DNA-L list (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/HOLDER-DNA/2004-12/1103162204). And he was a blacksmith. What I'm thinking is that if there really were two unrelated Richard Paces, the Richard Pace relict who married William Briscoe could have been a different person from Mary Pace. Just some of my thoughts about the various unanswered questions. We may never know the answers but then again, who knows what may turn up in an unexpected place? James --- Becky Mosely <beckymosely@comcast.net> wrote: > > If you have a list or recommendation of what we need - > please send it to me. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com