Gordon, I have always heard this too but have not seen any documentation to prove it. Where are the sources? Roy -------------- Original message from "Gordon W. Pace" <gordonwpace@peoplepc.com>: -------------- > > James: > Your message suggests that we don't know who the children were of the Richard > Pace who was a son of George Pace and Sarah Maycock. I think this is fairly > well known: Richard III b. 1661, Sarah b. 1662, George b. abt 1663, Elizabeth > b. 1664, James b. 1666, John, Sr b. 1668 and Ann b. 1674. > Gordon W. Pace > -----Original Message----- > >From: James Blair > >Sent: Aug 6, 2006 6:32 AM > >To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Documents, questions, speculations > > > >That's a great offer, Becky. Thank you. > > > >I guess probably a lot of the evidence we would dearly like > >to have is just no longer there. > > > >For instance, we would like to know whether George (son of > >Richard and Isabella) had more than the one son Richard. > >The wording of the deed of 25 Feb 1658/9 seems to allow for > >that possibility (perhaps a son of a second marriage), but > >there's probably little chance of discovering evidence. > > > >And secondly of course what we would all most like to know > >is the number and names of the children of Richard (George, > >Richard). > > > >Well, those two questions may be unanswerable, but here is > >a third question which would may be less of a brick wall: > >what was the name of Mary who was granted administration on > >the estate of her deceased husband Richard Pace in Feb > >1677/8? > > > >Mary was married to her Richard Pace by 13 March 1661/2, > >when he sold to Richard Taylor land in which Mary > >apparently had an interest. It would be interesting to > >know why her consent was required. It might point to who > >her parents were, or perhaps to a previous marriage. > > > >The land is described as: > > > >"...land on Powells Creek beginning at Buckland Island up > >creek to road called Hawksnest to Reedy Bottoms as far as > >Wm. Wilkins plantation..." > > > >If only it could be discovered who originally patented that > >land, it might reveal Mary's parentage. > > > >Another interesting question: why was this Richard Pace an > >executor of the estate of Hugh Kirkland, and why did Mary > >take the orphans? It may mean nothing, but it COULD mean > >that there was a closer relationship between Richard and > >Mary and Hugh Kirkland than we at present know of. For > >instance, Mary could have been a Kirkland. > > > >There is the court case brought by Thomas Kirkland (one of > >the orphans?) on 3 Aug 1692, against Nicholas Whitmore and > >his wife Mary as executrix of her deceased husband Richard > >Pace one of the executors of Hugh Kirkland. In your notes > >which you posted, it is suggested that this case had > >something to do with orphan Hannah Pitt. Well, I am > >speculating that perhaps Hannah's mother was born Hannah > >Kirkland and married a Pitt, and now the orphan's uncle > >Thomas is trying to get the estate of Richard Pace dec'd to > >pay money which Thomas thinks is owed to Hannah. > > > >Only speculation of course. > > > >And my final question: is it proved that the "relict of > >Richard Pace" who married Briscoe is the same person as > >Mary, widow of Richard Pace who subsequently married > >Nicholas Whitmore? The Briscoe marriage seems very > >unexpected, and unconnected with the people Richard and > >Mary Pace were otherwise involved with. > > > >You mention in your notes that William Briscoe left > >everything to Ann Holden (Holder). She seems to have been > >his daughter-in-law, according to a post on the > >HOLDER-DNA-L list > >(http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/HOLDER-DNA/2004-12/1103162204). > > And he was a blacksmith. > > > >What I'm thinking is that if there really were two > >unrelated Richard Paces, the Richard Pace relict who > >married William Briscoe could have been a different person > >from Mary Pace. > > > >Just some of my thoughts about the various unanswered > >questions. We may never know the answers but then again, > >who knows what may turn up in an unexpected place? > > > >James > > > > > >--- Becky Mosely wrote: > > > >> > >> If you have a list or recommendation of what we need - > >> please send it to me. > >> > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >==== PACE Mailing List ==== > >You can search archived messages from the Pace Mailing List by going to > http://searches.rootsweb.com. If you need instructions just ask me - > gordonpace@comcast.net > > > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > If you haven't done so within the last six months, please post a message > describing your Earliest Pace Ancestor and how you descend from them. Please > include dates, places, spouses, etc, if possible. 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