These entries show Richard Pace to be on Powell Land in 1625. (THANKS KIM) A COURTE held the xxx(superscript o) dye of maye 1625 beinge p[?}fent [present] S(superscript r) ffrancis Wyat Knight Gou(superscript r)nor & S(superscript r) George Yardly, Knight, M(superscript r) George Sandys, Threa[?], Cap(superscript t) Roger Smith, Cap(superscript t) Samuell Mathews, M(superscript r) W(superscript m) Cleyborne Richard Richardes fworne and Examined fayeth that he went over to y(superscript e) grounde w(superscript th) Richard Pace and y(superscript t) Richard Pace went as overfeer for Cap(supercript t) Powell. And fayeth y(superscript t) he never harde but y(superscript t) it was Cap(superscript t) Powells grounde, and y(superscript t) they cleered it as Cap(superscript t) Powells ground (as he ever conceaved) Page 65 xiii(superscript th) of June 1625 A COURTE held the xxxi(superscript th) of June 1625 beinge p[?}fent [present] S(superscript r) ffra: Wyatt Knight Gouerno(superscript r) & S(superscript r) George Yardley, Knight, M(superscript r) George Sandys, Threa[?], Cap(superscript t) Smith, Cap(superscript t) Samell Mathews, M(superscript r) Abraham Perfie M(superscript r) W(superscript m) Cleybourne. And further fayeth y(superscript t) Cap(superscript t) Powell offered M(superscript r) Pace he fhould have the ground yf he would continue there and builte vppo [build uppon it], yf he did not [intend] to goe to his owne Plantacon [c has a wavy line above it], But Rich [c has a wavy line above it] Pace goinge to his own Plantacone [c has a wavy line above it], did leave it vpp to Cap(superscript t) Powell COMMENT: At first I assumed the above was speaking of Powell Brooke.... BUT Powell also had land below Rolfe's (Roger Smith)... See Matthews note below. CAPT. ROGER SMITH'S PLANTATION Smith came to Virginia in 1620 and a year later was named to the Council, being first designated a "provisionall Councellor" on July 21, 1621. He, it might be added married Jane, the widow of John Rolfe who is thought to have been killed in 1622. Perhaps, this gave him use of the land across the James which Rolfe is reported to have patented. Source: VIRGINIA 1607-1682, pg. 82 by Hatch 1957 NOTE: Pace's Paines & Rolfe's Pl were across Gray's Creek from each other. So George & Sarah were in close proximity to each other while growing up.... CAPT. SAMUEL MATHEWS' PLANTATION Samuel Mathews, long time a councilor in Virginia beginning in 1624, first came to Virginia, it appears, in 1620. In November, 1622 there is reference to a patent granted to him for undertaking to transport 100 persons to the Colony. About a month later he seems to have been interested in Captain Powell's cleared ground across the water from Jamestown. Mathews evidently seated on it and Powell loaned him "the howses of the upper fort for the use of his servants." In 1625 the court saw no way to "put Captain Samuell Mathews who is presently seated there-on, out of possessione" in spite of a petition to do this. In a listing of land grants in 1625, there is reference to Mathews "Divident planted" although no acreage is mentioned. The same list indicated that Powell had earlier received two tracts of 200 and 550 acres respectively, both of which were now "planted" over the water from Jamestown. Source: VIRGINIA 1607-1682, pg. 82 by Hatch 1957 Comment: Believe the above land is what is mentioned in the Pace documents, rather than Powell Brooke which is miles (perhaps 20) north and not across from Jamestown at all. (Powell Brooke & Maycocks are also across a creek from each other.) slowly, slowly I am coming around to the Maycock camp.... DOES any of the above make sense? Regards, Becky PS... Somebody smoke over the possibility that George had a first wife...and children, considering Browne who was mentioned earlier was also right here around Gray's Creek.... Or George wasn't the only child, just the oldest.

Is this the area that is called Tappahanna?(http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=mtj8&fileName=mtj8pagevc04.db&recNum=586) It seems that some claimed that the land in question was owned communally, whereas William Powell claimed it belonged to him. In a court record of 1625, it's stated or claimed that "the piece of ground belonging to Capt. Powell, Richard Pace, Wm Pery, Thomas Gages, Richard Richards, and Hugh Crowthers had been cleared for the use of all concerned." "Hugh Crowthers declared that the land was not cleared for Capt. Powell or anyone else in particular and that furthermore six of his family who did help to clear the ground had noe share. Hugh Crowthers here further declared that Capt. Mathews had worked as hard as anyone to bring this land to perfection... " I only saw a transcript of this record, and don't have the exact date. Perhaps it is part of the same record as the one you quote, in May 1625. Evidently Richard Pace gave witness for William Powell, and Powell won the case. James --- Becky Mosely <beckymosely@comcast.net> wrote: > These entries show Richard Pace to be on Powell Land in > 1625. (THANKS KIM) > > A COURTE held the xxx(superscript o) dye of maye 1625 > beinge > p[?}fent [present] > > S(superscript r) ffrancis Wyat Knight Gou(superscript > r)nor & S(superscript r) George Yardly, Knight, > M(superscript r) George Sandys, Threa[?], > Cap(superscript t) Roger Smith, Cap(superscript t) > Samuell Mathews, M(superscript r) > W(superscript m) Cleyborne > > Richard Richardes fworne and Examined fayeth that he went > over to y(superscript e) grounde w(superscript th) > Richard Pace and y(superscript t) Richard Pace went as > overfeer for Cap(supercript t) Powell. And fayeth > y(superscript t) he never harde but y(superscript t) it > was Cap(superscript t) Powells grounde, and > y(superscript t) they cleered it as Cap(superscript t) > Powells ground > (as he ever conceaved) > > Page 65 > > xiii(superscript th) of June 1625 > > A COURTE held the xxxi(superscript th) of June 1625 > beinge > p[?}fent [present] > > S(superscript r) ffra: Wyatt Knight Gouerno(superscript > r) & S(superscript r) George Yardley, Knight, > M(superscript r) George Sandys, Threa[?], > Cap(superscript t) Smith, Cap(superscript t) Samell > Mathews, M(superscript r) Abraham Perfie M(superscript > r) W(superscript m) Cleybourne. > > And further fayeth y(superscript t) Cap(superscript t) > Powell offered M(superscript r) Pace he fhould have the > ground yf he would continue there and builte vppo [build > uppon it], yf he did not [intend] to goe to his owne > Plantacon [c has a wavy line above it], But Rich [c has a > wavy line above it] Pace goinge to his own Plantacone [c > has a wavy line above it], did leave it vpp to > Cap(superscript t) Powell > > COMMENT: At first I assumed the above was speaking of > Powell Brooke.... BUT Powell also had land below Rolfe's > (Roger Smith)... See Matthews note below. > > > CAPT. ROGER SMITH'S PLANTATION > Smith came to Virginia in 1620 and a year later was > named to the Council, being first designated a > "provisionall Councellor" on July 21, 1621. He, it might > be added married Jane, the widow of John Rolfe who is > thought to have been killed in 1622. Perhaps, this gave > him use of the land across the James which Rolfe is > reported to have patented. > Source: VIRGINIA 1607-1682, pg. 82 by Hatch 1957 > > NOTE: Pace's Paines & Rolfe's Pl were across Gray's > Creek from each other. So George & Sarah were in close > proximity to each other while growing up.... > > CAPT. SAMUEL MATHEWS' PLANTATION > Samuel Mathews, long time a councilor in Virginia > beginning in 1624, first came to Virginia, it appears, in > 1620. In November, 1622 there is reference to a patent > granted to him for undertaking to transport 100 persons > to the Colony. About a month later he seems to have been > interested in Captain Powell's cleared ground across the > water from Jamestown. Mathews evidently seated on it and > Powell loaned him "the howses of the upper fort for the > use of his servants." In 1625 the court saw no way to > "put Captain Samuell Mathews who is presently seated > there-on, out of possessione" in spite of a petition to > do this. > In a listing of land grants in 1625, there is > reference to Mathews "Divident planted" although no > acreage is mentioned. The same list indicated that > Powell had earlier received two tracts of 200 and 550 > acres respectively, both of which were now "planted" over > the water from Jamestown. > Source: VIRGINIA 1607-1682, pg. 82 by Hatch 1957 > > Comment: Believe the above land is what is mentioned in > the Pace documents, rather than Powell Brooke which is > miles (perhaps 20) north and not across from Jamestown at > all. (Powell Brooke & Maycocks are also across a creek > from each other.) > > slowly, slowly I am coming around to the Maycock camp.... > > DOES any of the above make sense? Regards, Becky > > PS... Somebody smoke over the possibility that George had > a first wife...and children, considering Browne who was > mentioned earlier was also right here around Gray's > Creek.... Or George wasn't the only child, just the > oldest. > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe send email to > PACE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the one word message: > subscribe OR unsubscribe > For digest mode, use PACE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

If George had a younger brother named Richard, that Richard could have married and had a son named Richard who could have been the Richard Pace on William Browne's 1670 tithable list. Is that what you mean? It's an intriguing idea. Such a Richard would be first cousin to George's "sonne and heire" Richard. Or (or rather "and") George's son Richard also could have had a younger brother. I don't see how Richard could have had an older surviving half-brother and still have been George's heir. But he could have had an older half-sister, if George was married before. Either a younger brother, or an older half-sister, could explain the wording in the deed. If George and Sarah had two sons we are inexorably drawn to suppose that the second son might be named George. He would have been born later than 1638. Is there a George Pace in the records who could have been born to George and Sarah? James --- Becky Mosely <beckymosely@comcast.net> wrote: > > PS... Somebody smoke over the possibility that George had > a first wife...and children, considering Browne who was > mentioned earlier was also right here around Gray's > Creek.... Or George wasn't the only child, just the > oldest. > --- Becky Mosely <beckymosely@comcast.net> wrote: > These entries show Richard Pace to be on Powell Land in > 1625. (THANKS KIM) > > A COURTE held the xxx(superscript o) dye of maye 1625 > beinge > p[?}fent [present] > > S(superscript r) ffrancis Wyat Knight Gou(superscript > r)nor & S(superscript r) George Yardly, Knight, > M(superscript r) George Sandys, Threa[?], > Cap(superscript t) Roger Smith, Cap(superscript t) > Samuell Mathews, M(superscript r) > W(superscript m) Cleyborne > > Richard Richardes fworne and Examined fayeth that he went > over to y(superscript e) grounde w(superscript th) > Richard Pace and y(superscript t) Richard Pace went as > overfeer for Cap(supercript t) Powell. And fayeth > y(superscript t) he never harde but y(superscript t) it > was Cap(superscript t) Powells grounde, and > y(superscript t) they cleered it as Cap(superscript t) > Powells ground > (as he ever conceaved) > > Page 65 > > xiii(superscript th) of June 1625 > > A COURTE held the xxxi(superscript th) of June 1625 > beinge > p[?}fent [present] > > S(superscript r) ffra: Wyatt Knight Gouerno(superscript > r) & S(superscript r) George Yardley, Knight, > M(superscript r) George Sandys, Threa[?], > Cap(superscript t) Smith, Cap(superscript t) Samell > Mathews, M(superscript r) Abraham Perfie M(superscript > r) W(superscript m) Cleybourne. > > And further fayeth y(superscript t) Cap(superscript t) > Powell offered M(superscript r) Pace he fhould have the > ground yf he would continue there and builte vppo [build > uppon it], yf he did not [intend] to goe to his owne > Plantacon [c has a wavy line above it], But Rich [c has a > wavy line above it] Pace goinge to his own Plantacone [c > has a wavy line above it], did leave it vpp to > Cap(superscript t) Powell > > COMMENT: At first I assumed the above was speaking of > Powell Brooke.... BUT Powell also had land below Rolfe's > (Roger Smith)... See Matthews note below. > > > CAPT. ROGER SMITH'S PLANTATION > Smith came to Virginia in 1620 and a year later was > named to the Council, being first designated a > "provisionall Councellor" on July 21, 1621. He, it might > be added married Jane, the widow of John Rolfe who is > thought to have been killed in 1622. Perhaps, this gave > him use of the land across the James which Rolfe is > reported to have patented. > Source: VIRGINIA 1607-1682, pg. 82 by Hatch 1957 > > NOTE: Pace's Paines & Rolfe's Pl were across Gray's > Creek from each other. So George & Sarah were in close > proximity to each other while growing up.... > > CAPT. SAMUEL MATHEWS' PLANTATION > Samuel Mathews, long time a councilor in Virginia > beginning in 1624, first came to Virginia, it appears, in > 1620. In November, 1622 there is reference to a patent > granted to him for undertaking to transport 100 persons > to the Colony. About a month later he seems to have been > interested in Captain Powell's cleared ground across the > water from Jamestown. Mathews evidently seated on it and > Powell loaned him "the howses of the upper fort for the > use of his servants." In 1625 the court saw no way to > "put Captain Samuell Mathews who is presently seated > there-on, out of possessione" in spite of a petition to > do this. > In a listing of land grants in 1625, there is > reference to Mathews "Divident planted" although no > acreage is mentioned. The same list indicated that > Powell had earlier received two tracts of 200 and 550 > acres respectively, both of which were now "planted" over > the water from Jamestown. > Source: VIRGINIA 1607-1682, pg. 82 by Hatch 1957 > > Comment: Believe the above land is what is mentioned in > the Pace documents, rather than Powell Brooke which is > miles (perhaps 20) north and not across from Jamestown at > all. (Powell Brooke & Maycocks are also across a creek > from each other.) > > slowly, slowly I am coming around to the Maycock camp.... > > DOES any of the above make sense? Regards, Becky > > PS... Somebody smoke over the possibility that George had > a first wife...and children, considering Browne who was > mentioned earlier was also right here around Gray's > Creek.... Or George wasn't the only child, just the > oldest. > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > To subscribe or unsubscribe send email to > PACE-L-request@rootsweb.com with the one word message: > subscribe OR unsubscribe > For digest mode, use PACE-D-request@rootsweb.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com