One of the problems of managing the Pace DNA site is that I do not have time to keep up with the individual lines, and I depend on members of those lines and others to do that. I am a go-between; I post the information that I get and do not have the time to verify it. By private email, I have received information that the post below might be inaccurate. The lines of 15541 and 40018 may be "crossed up" with 7811, who proves out to be in the John Pace-Sarah Burgh group, while 15541 and 40018 do not match with any other Paces. GT Pace (Gordon of Canada) has addressed this issue in a previous post. First, here are the lineages in the Donors page of the Paces involved, followed by my original post. Note that from the lineages submitted, there is no clear connection between these lines. I don't have time to sort all of this out; I will leave it to members of the lines affected, but it appears as if there may be some confusion somewhere as the DNA results do not show a connection between 7811 and the other two. Kit 7811 Unsure 1. 0. Donor 2. 1. Father 3. 2. Grandfather 4. 3. JAMES DEAN PACE b 1835, Giles Co TN + spouse, HANNAH BELIEU (Documented) 5. 4. THOMAS PACE, b. 1811, TN. + spouse, MARY HENDRIX (Documented) 6. 5. WILLIAM PACE b ca 1775, where? + spouse, SARAH FRAZIER (Documented) COMMENT: DNA results show common ancestry with John Pace-Sarah Burgh descendants. 15541 Unsure 0. donor 1. Father 2. John Jefferson Pace b. 10-2-1906 Chester,Arkansas d. 1-19-1973 Lodi,California m.Dorothy Perigo Abt.1-18 or 19 -1930 b.12-18-1908 Lacy,South Dakota d. 12-10-2001 St. Louis,Missouri 3. Joseph H. Pace b. 10-14-1871 Benton County,Arkansas d. 5-5-1944 Chester,Arkansas m. Della J. Burgett 12-2-1897 b. 11-24-1878 d.4-6-1927 4. William R. Pace b. 5-12-1824 Giles County,Tennessee d. 5-15-1892 Benton County,Arkansas m. Sarah Ann Hendrix Abt. 1847 b.5-15-1827 d.7-27-1889 5. William Pace( no information as of this date) 40018 Unsure 0. Donor. 1. Father 2. Grandfather Joseph H. Pace ---Born oct 14, 1871 Benton Co, Arkansas Died may 5, 1944 Fort Smith, ---Arkansas Have funeral record, death certificate, census records, ---and photos. 3. Great Grandfather William R. Pace Born May 12, 1821 Tenn ---Died May 15, 1892 Benton co, Arkansas ---census records, and photos of tombstones. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <royj@webster.edu> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 7:27 PM Subject: New DNA results > > One of the major Pace lineages for which the ancestry is undiscovered, is > that of William R. Pace and Sarah Hendrix of Giles Co, TN and Benton Co, > AR. > This is the ancestry of DNA test subject #15541 as well as the ancestry of > James > Dean Pace of Benton Co. > This is briefly what I know about this lineage: > > William Pace was b. abt. 1770 in SC and died abt. 1825-30, probably in > Maury > Co, TN. He married Sarah Frazier abt. 1803 in Mississippi Territory, > daughter > of William Frazier and a Native American. Per Gale Judkins, family lore > says > that this family was closely associated with the Choctaw tribe in > Mississippi > Territory and Sarah may have been a full-blood Choctaw. The area of > residence prior to the removal of the Choctaw was near what is now > Yalobusha Co, MS. > The family apparently arrived in TN before 1811. > Their children were: Alpha Pace b. 1804, d. 1875 Giles Co, TN, m. John > Escue > > Rachel Pace b. 1809, > Thomas Pace b. 1811, d 1848 in Lawrence Co, TN, > John Jackson b. 1815, d. aft 1870 Giles Co, TN, m. Mourning Logan 1850 > Lawrence Co, TN, > Dempsey b. 1818, d. aft 1880 AR, m. Sarah Cooper in Hardin Co, TN. William > R. Pace b. 1836? Giles Co, TN, d. aft 1890 Benton Co, AR. > > Thomas Pace m. Mary Hendrix 7/17/1833 in Lawrence Co, TN, daughter of > William > Hendrix and Sarah. Their children were: > James Dean Pace b. 1835 Giles Co, TN, d. aft 1880 AR Christopher C. b. > 1836 > TN Sarah E. b. 1840 Sophrona H. b. 1842 Robert Richmond b. 1844 Thomas J. > b. > 1845 > > William R. Pace - birth year from census records range from 1828 to 1836. > On > the 1880 Benton Co, AR census (Brightwater Twp) he shows both parents b. > TN. > William m. Sarah A. Hendrix (sister of above Mary) on 9/12/1849 in > Lawrence > > Co, TN. Their children were: > William J. , John S., Martha Almyra, Thomas E., General E., Mary A., Sarah > Rachel, Susan Arphetty, Fanny H., George M., and Joseph H. b. 10/14/1871 > Benton > Co, AR. > The following children were in the household of William R. on the 1880 > census: John S., Mary E., Sarah R., Fanny H., George M. and Joseph H. Also > in the > hh were William Hendricks 35 and James Hendricks 18, relationship not > noted > > but undoubtedly close relatives of Sarah and Mary Hendrix. > > > Does anyone have a clue as to the ancestry of William Pace b. abt. 1770 > SC? > As the James Dean Pace biography indicates, his family believed him to be > a > descendant of Richard Pace of Jamestown but the one DNA test [15541] from > this line > seems to refute this. > What is greatly needed is another test subject from this line to see if > the > > results match the first. > Gordon W. Pace > > > > We now have that second test, and it exactly matches the first. > > > > Kit 40018 exactly matches 15541 25/25. So it would appear that this line > is > NOT of the Richard Pace lineage. Grandfather of 40018 is great grandfather > of 15541. > > > > These results can be seen on the Results and Donors pages of the DNA site, > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/ > > > > Roy Johnson >