He is number N5752 on the Results page, coming from the National Geographic study. The 12 marker DNA with its unique markers that only our John of M group has puts him definitely in the John of M. line. Roy Johnson <<<-----Original Message----- From: Raymond Ruch [mailto:rruch@missvalley.com] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 7:31 PM To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE-L] William Floyd Pace KY to KS I also worked on this, and, through census records, came up with the same conclusions/line through Benjamin Pace and Catherine Hawkins. Roy Johnson posted two emails about this. On the last one he did say "Nancy". But the first one says "My name is William Charles Pace". >>>> The email seems to come from his wife. Their email address is "BillandNancyinAZ@aol.com" <<< Seems to me that he would be a good candidate for DNA if no other Pace male from this line has been tested.>>> He has been tested. He is number N5752 on the Results page, clearly John of M. He came to us from the National Geographic study, which is the reason for the alphanumeric number instead of the completely numeric numbers used by FTDNA. But now I am a little confused myself. I assumed Bill was the submitter. But when I check William Charles Pace's address, it is not Arizona, but is Vail, Colorado. I will have to question them about this. Maybe William Charles is Bill's father. Roy Johnson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elborn Mendenhall" <alspace@cox.net> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [PACE-L] William Floyd Pace KY to KS > At 04:51 PM 10/13/2005, you wrote: >>Bill and Nancy: >>The parents of your William Floyd Pace was James McClung Pace and Susanna >>Elizabeth Hawkins. >>James was b. 4/16/1851 in Edmonson Co, KY and died 3/21/1926 in Kansas. >>They married 11/22/1877 in Edmonson Co. His siblings were Tyra H. Pace, >>Jehru John Doc, Susanna (married a Blair) Presley O'dire, William Wall >>(had a son named Presley O.) Mary A., John W., Sarah E., Lettetia and >>Rachel. >>James was a son of Benjamin J. Pace b. 1801 VA, d 10/17/1859 Edmonson Co, >>and Catherine B. Hawkins b. 1811, d 1896, married abt 1828. Benjamin was >>a son of Edward M. Pace, Sr. b. 1761 Goochland Co, VA, d. bef 1820, >>married Susanna Johnson. >>With your information I was able to find James McClung Pace on the 1880 >>census of Edmonson Co, KY with wife Susan and son William F., age 1 (born >>in Edmonson Co, KY) They were also on the 1900 census of Haskell Co, >>Kansas with sons James P. and Frederick R. This census shows that they >>had been married 22 years and had 9 children. William Floyd Pace had >>apparently already moved out on his own. I don't know the names of the >>other children nor whether they were still living. This lineage goes back >>several more generations to John Pace of Middlesex, VA, who, according to >>the results of the Pace DNA study, had parents from Shropshire England in >>the middle 1600's. >>Gordon W. Pace > > Gordon: Do you have good DNA evidence that the children of Benjamin J. > Pace and Catherine are in the line going back to John Pace of Middlesex, > VA? Also, sometime ago, on a Pace mailing list which you are the > administrator the folowing note was posted: > > I would like to get in touch with Arleta if at all possible. My old > email address was at cjnetworks.com; however, I haven't had that address > for at least five years. > > Henry Lewis Pace > Posted by: Arleta Howe Date: February 28, 2002 at 05:57:50 > of 3578 > > Would like to find anyone connected to these families. Thank you in > advance for any information in helping me find my aunts and uncles and > cousins. The family had a beautiful farm in Eugene, Oregon for quite a few > years in the ?-1950-1960-1970s. > > Henry Lewis PACE b: 19 Jun 1904 Kentucky, d: Nov 1971 Eugene, Lane Co., OR > married Grace Emma BROWN (m: 22 Dec 1928 Norwalk, Los Angeles Co., CA) b: > 20 May 1906 Pasadena, CA, d: 26 Feb 1983 Albany, Linn Co., OR (Father: > Willis Edwin BROWN, Mother: Mabel Edna GARDNER > Children: > 1 John Robert PACE b: 1925 m1 Coeta RAGSDALE, m2 Virginia ?, m3 Colleen > HAUN. > 2 William Lewis PACE b: 1931 m Eleanor HALL. > 3 Sylvanus Hubert PACE b: 1933 m Connie STOME. > 4 Sylvester Elbert PACE b: 1933 m Betty LANG. > > I have an Uncle and a Cousin both males who are direct descendants of > Benjamin. I have tried to get them to give some DNA; however, so far I > have not had any luck. The only other male Paces that I know in this > direct line are the last three listed above and I think at least two of > them are dead. William may have had a son, and I don't know about the > other two. John Robert Pace was adopted as he was the son of Grace Emma > Brown, who had been married previously before she married Henry, this is > according to my mother who was an older sister to Henry Lewis Pace. In > fact, my oldest sister lived for a while with Henry and Grace. He was > the son of Grace Emma Brown. > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Check out the Pace GenConnect Boards where you can post or peruse Pace > Bibles, Obits, Bios, Deeds, Wills, Queries, etc. Bookmark this URL: > http://boards.ancestry.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.14/131 - Release Date: > 10/12/2005 > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace