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    1. Re: [PACE-L] Geo. Pace what is his wife Sarah's maiden name Snowe? OR Maycock?
    2. Rebecca Christensen
    3. The document mentioned below provides evidence that Richard Pace's mother at some point in her life was known as Sarah Maycocke - whether that is her maiden name or a married name is now a matter of debate. It is my understanding that Mrs. does not mean "married" during that time period, but is a social title and can be used by both married and single women based on their rank in society. I do not have an answer to the question of Sarah's maiden name and really haven't formed a personal opinion either way. We just have too little information available at this point and we need to make sure we evaluate the little evidence known to us now in the context of what was meant at the time, not by today's terms, customs, and laws, etc. I am not aware of any evidence whatsoever that her name was ever Sarah Snowe. Where is it mentioned in any *document* that her name was Sarah Snowe? or what documents used together support that conclusion? Has the Genealogical Proof Standard been used to draw that conclusion? Or is it an unsubstantiated theory that made it into print? or published on the internet? It needs to be remembered that Bruce Howard (or any living person today, for that matter) is not a *source of evidence* - he was not there (or Guiness Book of World Records I am sure would like to know), so he is not a *source*. He (and anyone else) can cite sources that provide evidence to support a conclusion but a living person today is not a *source* for events that occurred in the 1600s. Also, it must be remembered that the *Internet* is not a source. It is a repository for information - like your library only on a much larger scale. Just because information can be found on the internet or in a library or published in any format, doesn't make it true. My 2 cents. If anyone is aware of any *evidence* to support the theory that Sarah's name at some point was Sarah Snowe, I am very interested in learning of it. Rebecca Kathlynn3@aol.com wrote: According to the convoluted information I have: George Pace [s.o. Richard 1 & Isabella Smythe] m: Sarah Snowe...their children were: Richard, Elizabeth and John. After George died Sarah Snowe m: 2nd _____? Maycock. This is based on the following: Per Bruce Howard: The primary document that has led many researchers to believe that George's wife was Sarah Maycock was one dated April 25, 1659, when George's oldest son, Richard, confirms a sale of land to Thomas Drewe. Richard stated that "I Ric'd Pace Sonne and heire apparent of mr. George Pace of the Com: of Charles Citty att Mount Mar. in VA, and sonn and heire as the first issue of my mother Mrs. Sarah Macocke wife unto my aforesd father (being both dec'd) do hereby by these presents...confirme and allow of the sale of eight or nine hundred acres of land... sold by my dec'd father mr. George pace unto mr. Thomas Drewe." Mr. Howard points out that Richard is telling us that his mother has a second issue of children, he being of the first issue. He doesn't say the first issue of his father because his father died before his mother. In the same breathe he says "Mrs. Sarah Macocke." He does not say "my mother known before marriage as Sarah Maycock" or "my mother formerly Sara Maycock daughter of Samuel."based on statement of George's son Richard. Questions 1. What is the first name of Mr. Maycock? 2 Who are the children of Sarah Snowe [aka Mrs Sarah Maycock] and her 2nd husband Mr Maycock? Any help will be greatly appreciated....corrections/opinions requested? ~Kathlynn~ ==== PACE Mailing List ==== You can search archived messages from the Pace Mailing List by going to http://searches.rootsweb.com. If you need instructions just ask me - gordonpace@comcast.net

    06/11/2006 04:16:57
    1. Re: [PACE-L] Geo. Pace what is his wife Sarah's maiden name Snowe? OR Maycock?
    2. Just one more point about the Sarah Maycock issue. Pace researchers "assumed" for years that George Pace married the daughter of Saml. Maycock. who would have been a girl of 14 or 15 in 1637 (date?) Bruce made the case that Gorge's wife was the widow of Samuel Maycock since the court clerk referred to her as "Mrs." rather than Mistres Sarah Maycock. Here is what I think: If it was the widow of Samuel Maycock that George Pace married, she would have remainded unmarried for about 14 years. How hard is it to believe that a woman at that time in that place would remain unmarried for that length of time! If she returned to England in the interim it is even more difficult to believe.. Of course I can't prove it but I believe: A. That th clerk made a mistake or B. That it was sort of an honorary thing to refer to her (the young Sarah) as a Mrs. As for the "Snowe" issue, I have no idea where that came from. W. James Pace ----- Original Message ----- From: Rebecca Christensen <rchristen@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:19 pm Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Geo. Pace what is his wife Sarah's maiden name Snowe? OR Maycock? To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com > The document mentioned below provides evidence that Richard > Pace's mother at some point in her life was known as Sarah > Maycocke - whether that is her maiden name or a married name is > now a matter of debate. It is my understanding that Mrs. does > not mean "married" during that time period, but is a social title > and can be used by both married and single women based on their > rank in society. I do not have an answer to the question of > Sarah's maiden name and really haven't formed a personal opinion > either way. We just have too little information available at this > point and we need to make sure we evaluate the little evidence > known to us now in the context of what was meant at the time, not > by today's terms, customs, and laws, etc. > I am not aware of any evidence whatsoever that her name was > ever Sarah Snowe. Where is it mentioned in any *document* that > her name was Sarah Snowe? or what documents used together support > that conclusion? Has the Genealogical Proof Standard been used to > draw that conclusion? Or is it an unsubstantiated theory that > made it into print? or published on the internet? It needs to > be remembered that Bruce Howard (or any living person today, for > that matter) is not a *source of evidence* - he was not there (or > Guiness Book of World Records I am sure would like to know), so he > is not a *source*. He (and anyone else) can cite sources that > provide evidence to support a conclusion but a living person today > is not a *source* for events that occurred in the 1600s. Also, > it must be remembered that the *Internet* is not a source. It is > a repository for information - like your library only on a much > larger scale. Just because information can be found on the internet > or in a library or published in any format, doesn't make it true. > My 2 cents. > > If anyone is aware of any *evidence* to support the theory > that Sarah's name at some point was Sarah Snowe, I am very > interested in learning of it. > > Rebecca > > Kathlynn3@aol.com wrote: > According to the convoluted information I have: > > George Pace [s.o. Richard 1 & Isabella Smythe] m: Sarah > Snowe...their > children were: Richard, Elizabeth and John. After George died > Sarah Snowe m: 2nd > _____? Maycock. This is based on the following: > > Per Bruce Howard: The primary document that has led many > researchers to > believe that George's wife was Sarah Maycock was one dated April > 25, 1659, when George's oldest son, Richard, confirms a sale of > land to Thomas Drewe. Richard stated that "I Ric'd Pace Sonne and > heire apparent of mr. George Pace of the Com: of Charles Citty att > Mount Mar. in VA, and sonn and heire as the first issue of my > mother Mrs. Sarah Macocke wife unto my aforesd father (being both > dec'd) do hereby by these presents...confirme and allow of the > sale of eight or nine hundred acres of land... sold by my dec'd > father mr. George pace unto mr. Thomas Drewe." Mr. Howard points > out that Richard is telling us that his mother has a second issue > of children, he being of the first issue. He doesn't say the first > issue of his father because his father died before his mother. In > the same breathe he says "Mrs. Sarah Macocke." He does not say "my > mother known before marriage as Sarah Maycock" or "my mother > formerly Sara Maycock daughter of Samuel."based on statement of > George's son > Richard. > > Questions > 1. What is the first name of Mr. Maycock? > 2 Who are the children of Sarah Snowe [aka Mrs Sarah Maycock] and > her 2nd husband Mr Maycock? > > Any help will be greatly appreciated....corrections/opinions > requested? > ~Kathlynn~ > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > You can search archived messages from the Pace Mailing List by > going to http://searches.rootsweb.com. If you need instructions > just ask me - gordonpace@comcast.net > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to check the Pace Family Genealogy Forum at > http://genforum.com/pace/ and the Pace Network at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace

    06/11/2006 08:28:54