And there is another really worthwhile statement regarding history: "The winners, or the victors always wrote it". We now know that some of what we learned in school wasn't necessarily 100% accurate, for various reasons - including more modern techniques for almost everything. Brenda Howorko Executive Assistant to the Deputy Minister Alberta Energy Ph: (780) 427-7727 Fx: (780) 422-3920 -----Original Message----- From: GTPace [mailto:gordpace@eagle.ca] Sent: December 8, 2005 4:37 PM To: PACE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Re: [] RE-D. N. A. ????? Roy Johnson wrote: > There's a lot that we don't know about history. I taught history all my > life, and I always emphasized to my students--history is NOT the past. > History is what we THINK the past was like. > Roy Johnson A wonderful and truthful statement !! I have always kept within a group of friends, here in Canada, who definitely, in their personal manner of thinking and reasoning, adhere basically to the above concept of thought. Gordon Thomas Pace in Canada http://www.phc.igs.net/~gordpace/ mainly to do with Paces of England but some who emmigrated from there, including: John of M interests to many US PACE Family historians who may have a new interest. ==== PACE Mailing List ==== Check out the new Pace Society of America web page at: www.pacesociety.org, and please join the Pace Society of America for only $25.00 per year. This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and or privileged information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended recipients of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed.

>And there is another really worthwhile statement regarding history: >"The winners, or the victors always wrote it". > >Brenda Howorko An exception to that rule is the American Civil War. It has perhaps been better covered in the Southern press than by those of northern persuasion. To understand the true worth of a history, know the bias of its author. Not always an easy task. Returning to the subject of genealogy, consider with suspicion the identity of a child's mother when the claimed mother was past 40 when the child was born. It was sometimes the case that a wayward daughter gave birth, but to prevent scandal the grandmother claimed to be the child's mother. Also, when viewing the US censuses prior to 1880, where relationships are not specified, be careful about assigning relationships. For example, look at this census record for one of my ancestors: 1850 Barren County Census, Division 2, Page 458, Household 779 John Bowles, 58 M, farmer, $1500, VA Editha A. Bowles, 34 F, KY Elza M. Bowles, 32 M, farmer, KY John M. Bowles, 21 M, farmer, KY Lafayette Bowles, 17 M, farmer, KY Eliza C. Bowles, 15 F, KY Willis W. Bowles, 14 M, KY Martha Bowles, 12 F, KY Harriet Bowles, 9 F, KY Is Editha the daughter of John, or perhaps his second wife? Without additional documentation we cannot be certain. At 34 she is old enough to be the mother of Eliza, Willis, Martha, and Harriet. She is also young enough to be the daughter of 58 year old John. Other documentation clearly shows that she was John's daughter. His wife was Celia White who was born about 1797 and was apparently the mother of all of John's children. Harriett, the last Bowles child was born about 1841 when Celia would have been in her early forties. One more clue, Editha was living with Martha and her husband in the 1870 census. Now, without further documentation, can you tell me for sure whether Martha and Harriet were children of Celia or were they born out of wedlock to Editha? The truth is that I don't know with certainty. I choose to believe that all of these Bowles children belonged to John and Celia, and that Editha never birthed any children, but I can't prove it. BTW, just to tie this back to PACE genealogy, John and Celia had another son named Austin Washington Bowles who married Nancy Clark, and Nancy was the daughter of Samuel Clark and his wife Nancy Gatewood Pace who was a descendent of John Pace of Middlesex. Charlie

someone wrote recently: Returning to the subject of genealogy, consider with suspicion the > identity of a child's mother when the claimed mother was past 40 when the > child was born. It was sometimes the case that a wayward daughter gave > birth, but to prevent scandal the grandmother claimed to be the child's > mother. Consider the following story and this happening in the modern era of birth control. Don't be too ready to dismiss an ancestor over 40 bearing children before the advent of birth control. SYLVESTER, Ga., Nov. 11, 2004 (AP) A 59-year-old great-grandmother living in south Georgia is set to give birth to twins next month, which would steal some of the limelight, and a purported record, from a 56-year-old New York City woman who gave birth to twins this week. Frances Harris of rural Sylvester, Ga., says she wasn't trying to get pregnant. She didn't even know she was carrying a child - let alone two- until she visited a doctor in August while trying to figure out some unusual weight gain over the summer. "A lot of things changed about me," said Harris, a homemaker whose twins are due Dec. 21. "I started craving grapes and apples, things I don't usually crave. By then I was four months' pregnant." John