We have $155 pledged toward funding this line, as we have discussed, so we can go with a 12 marker and keep the rest back in case it appears worthwhile to upgrade, unless others want to chip in. Before I set it up, I want to be sure she has secured the consent of her brother to donate. She seems to be a good researcher herself and has turned up some info that could be useful. Here is her latest email: Dear Roy, Thanks so much for response and advice. Yes, I have done some tracing for McDonald's Family. A fairly well off family of the period and found his marriage and census info. also. I do have some tracing of Zilpha's father because he is who had always been thought to be McDaniel's father until I found John Pace's will in Johnston Co. Courthouse and McD is noted as " my grandson "and Zilphia as John's daughter. I am near sure John's birth was similar because he suddenly appeared as John Pace when he and Eddie BATTEN Pace were marrying in 1821. The bondsman for the marriage was who John had been apprenticed to as a very young boy-----Levi Yelvington. It seems that Mr. Yelvington had some type of school for I have found several children as his apprentices. Any leads for how I can determine this about 1799?? Thanks much for all leads. As i do not have a home computer I come to Chesapeake Public Library as I can and just read your note as library has had some holidays. Also I only have a cell phone and not a land line== This is a definite family challenge and I hope will supply some answers for many PACE Folks. Whatever is to be learned I want to be passed along and shared. Thanks to All. Please let me know what else I need to do. LOve, Ida Paulette PACE Saunders Roy Johnson