I just found this;was posted by Betty Pace .. and Betty noted that Mc Daniel Pace was son of Bartley Pace s/o John and this certainly does not mention Zilpha Pace as Mother of McDaniel but does state forsure he was a Grandson of John Pace ... this Mc Daniel Maybe son of one of John Pace children that died ... and John Pace took him on to raise Loose paper from NC archives PACE, BARTLEY - 1859 - Wid. Zilpha [Batten] Pace dower 25-1/2 ac. (10+) I looked for 1850 Cen for John Pace <from Chuck Campbell--ccampbell4@carolina.rr.com, another researcher of this line--his ancestor was Zilpha Pace Garner, daughter of John Pace and Edney Batten. Zilpha was married to W. M. Garner.> "What I found last week when I re-visited the Register of Deeds Office at the County Courthouse in Smithfield was a Land Deed between John Pace, the grantor, and Zilpha Garner, the grantee. This record can be found in Deed Book 'O', page 33. The first part of it (the part that caused my heart to go pitter-patter!) reads as follows: "This indenture made the 25th of July 1871 between John Pace of Johnston County and State of North Carolina of the first part and Zilpha Garner wife of Wm H Garner [sic] of the above written County and State. Witnesseth that the said John Pace for and in consideration of natural love and affection to him in hand paid by his daughter Zilpha Garner [that's the exciting part!!] the receipt is hereby acknowledged hath granted bargained and given and by these presents doth grant bargain give the said Zilpha Garner and her heirs a certain tract of land in Johnston County adjoining the lands of Jas H Batten and others on the south side of little creek [sic]." The remainder of the document is typical "deed-speak" with a description of the property given in metes and bounds terminology, etc. On the next page (page 34) of the same book is another Deed with John Pace as the Grantor and McDanel [sic] Pace as the Grantee. "McDanel" is cited in the document as "his grandson McDanel Pace", referring to John Pace. Chuck" ----- Original Message ----- From: "darlene" <darlene@adweb.net> To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 12:55 PM Subject: McDaniel Pace s/o Zilphia Pace ?of Johnston Co NC..Where is Betty Pace > On Gen Connect it report a Zilpha Pace -m- 3 AUG 1870 in Johnston County, > North Carolina Henry Garner > > Where is Betty Pace ?.... she did a lot of research on those Johnston Co NC > Pace's > > I did look up the 1870 Cen in Johnston Co NC and it shows a Mc Daniel Pace > age 15 years be born abt 1855 in hh of John Pace age 72 altho that Census > does not note what relationship is ...altho McDaniel is in that hh... There > is also a child Frances E female age 7 years all born in NC > > Cked 1860 Cen Johnston Co NC pine level P.O Aug 9th > HH 618 John Pace age 62 NC > Edney age 60 NC She is too old to have son Mc Daniel so Looks like Zilpha > maybe his mother > Zilpha age 21 > Rilda age 16 > Mc Daniel age 3 > HH 619 Larry Pace 26 > HH620 another Zilphia Pace with three other children in Hh David John > Bettie and Merit This I believe is Zilphia Hall -m- Alsey Pace in Johnston > Co NC > > > 1880 Census Place: Selma, Johnston, North Carolina ........... So this is > another Zilpha so is she a sister of John Pace abv and is she the one having > children out of wedlock or the 21 year old Zilpha abv who might h ave > married Henry Garner...???? > Source: FHL Film 1254969 National Archives Film T9-0969 Page 561B > Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace > Zilpha PACE Self F W W 47 NC > Occ: Keeping House Fa: NC Mo: NC > Merit PACE Son M S W 25 NC > Occ: Farmer Fa: NC Mo: NC > A lot of questions here ....who's Male Blood run thru Mc Daniel Nee unknown > adopted the Pace Name ..or maybe Zilpha union was from a Pace many things > happened then as now ... also maybe McDaniel was named for his father last > name that a thought .....does anyone have the Will or probate of that John > Pace abv might say who McDaniel Pace is s/o I know on my John Pace in Ky > the probate listed all Grandchildren as Heirs of his children that had > died... > Darlene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <genealogy@snuffy.britishlibrary.net> > To: <PACE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 10:26 AM > Subject: [PACE-L] McDaniel Pace > > > > Yes, in that case I agree. > > > > Also, is there any doubt about McDaniel Pace's parentage? Elsewhere > > in the forums he is said to be Zilpha's nephew rather than her > > son. Zilpha is said to have married a Garner, though of course that > > doesn't rule out her being also mother of McDaniel. > > > > If there's any uncertainty, perhaps DNA could come up with an answer. > > > > Also, I notice Zilpha is said to have had a brother Bartley. That > > name occurs also in my Pace line (Richard, Silas, Silas). Since it > > seems there is doubt about the origin of John Pace (McDaniel Pace's > > grandfather), is it possible he could have been from the Richard line > > rather than the John of Middlesex line? A given name's not much of a > > clue I know. > > > > Ellen > > > > > > ==== PACE Mailing List ==== > > Check out the new Pace Society of America web page at: > www.pacesociety.org, and please join the Pace Society of America for only > $25.00 per year. > > > > __________ NOD32 1.1343 (20051228) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > >