Thanks for your reply. I think I must have misunderstood your posting, as your line of descent does not mention John Pace. My apologies for my misunderstanding. Here is what I know about John Pace son of Silas Pace Sr: John Pace married Sarah UNK, six children, d. 1828. One of his children was indeed a Silas, and I thought you were saying that you had him down as the same person as Silas Pace Jr m. Elizabeth Foreman. But that seems to have been my misunderstanding of your post, so I think we can be pretty sure that John's son Silas Pace was the Silas Pace who died in 1849 without issue. The other children of John Pace were Richard (m. UNK), Louisa (m. Aiken Brazeal), Lucinda (m. Henry Cannon), Eliza, and Thomas William (m. Drucilla Anderson). That's all I know about John's family and have no documentation on any of it. My information on our line differs from yours in a few respects: 1. I don't think we know the name of the wife of Richard born about 1665. It did used to be thought she was a Poythress but I think this turned out to be unsupported by the evidence. 2. As I understand it, there is no proof of descent back to Richard and Isabella because we don't know which Richard Pace went into NC. 3. Silas Jr only had five children, Sarah (m. John M. Funderburg), Serena (m. Peter Pope), Bartley Martin (m. Elizabeth Taylor as you say), Salina (m. Stephen S. Gray), and Miranda (m. Eli Bynum). Thomas William Pace b. 1812 was the son not of Silas Jr but of Silas Jr's brother John (see above). Regards, Ellen