DNA test can always help to verify documentary research. I encourage you to do that. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of debbie pace Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:27 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Bignal DNA test hi, Gordon did some research for me and I and my brother are direct descendants of Richard vs Isabella down through samuel m pace. my brother is samuel maurice pace III and his son is samuel maurice pace iv. would dna from either of them help? thanks. my names is jimmie deborah pace. our ancestor is smuel m pace jr our grandfather and great, great etc are samuel m pace sr, richard randall pace, dredzil evans pace, william pace, drury pace. these are all on my fathers side. i could ask my brother to do dna test. he doesnt know of pace soceity yet. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "val & jeff tice" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: [PACE] Bignal DNA test > I've received e-mails off the list, but I'm going to respond on the list > to > the issues raised by the results of the Bignal Pace DNA test. Prior to > that > test, the DNA results had come back as we had expected as follows: > > 1. Richard m. Isabella > a. George m. Sarah > i. Richard m. Mary > A. George Pace - 3b DNA > B. John Pace m. Elizabeth (prob. Lowe) - 3a DNA > C. Richard Pace m. Rebecca - 3a DNA > D. James Pace - 3a DNA > E. Thomas Pace - no known issue. > > But the Bignal test raises research issues whether you use the Pace > Society > research, Bruce's research or any other research I've seen. The problem > is > here: > > A. George Pace (or if using Bruce's research - James Pace) > a. Richard (poss. m. Sarah Woodlief) > i. Francis Pace (poss. m. Ann) > 1. Bignal - 3a DNA > ii. John Pace m. Sarah - 3b DNA > iii. Richard Pace m. Elizabeth - 3b DNA > > We can't have two 3b DNA lines off Richard and Sarah and one 3a DNA. Even > if I use later research and switch Stephen Pace to John Pace m. Sarah's > line, so that we don't have any descendants from Richard m. Elizabeth, > William Pace m. Sisley has also tested 3b DNA, and I'm not sure whether he > is young enough to be John & Sarah's son. If William is young enough, then > all the 3b DNA lines would be John m. Sarah descendants: > > A. George Pace (or if using Bruce's research - James Pace) > a. Richard Pace (poss. m. Sarah Woodlief) > i. Francis Pace > 1. Bignal - 3a DNA > ii. John Pace m. Sarah - 3b DNA (Jesse m. Polly would fall > somewhere here as John Pace has shown Jesse first appears in Surry County, > North Carolina) > 1. William Pace m. Sisley - 3b DNA > iii. Richard Pace m. Elizabeth - no one tested > > That would work with the DNA evidence, but I'm not so sure how well it > works > with the records. > > Val > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.17/1844 - Release Date: 12/11/2008 8:58 PM