-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rebecca Christensen Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] William Pace-Sicely Walker descendents Roy,   I'm not sure why this is "emerging as an interesting study" based on the new results for the William Pace/Sicely Walker line. (What am I missing?)  The new participant #134499, through William and Sicely's son Gideon only tested 12 markers and they are a perfect match not only to the previous participant through William and Sicely's son William Richard (#10683), but also to the modal (most common) result for all of Group 3b.   In this case 12 markers really isn't enough to tell us anything new about this branch of the family.   The other participant from this line (#16218) through William and Sicely's son Alsey does have a DNA difference at DYS 390 (marker 2), but this appears to have been a more "recent" change - somewhere between Alsey Pace and the participant.    We do now have 12 marker DNA results for three lines of descent from William Pace and Sicely Walker - through Alsey, William Richard, and Gideon.   Between the three sets of results, the results show that the father William Pace's 25 marker DNA results are a perfect match to the Group 3b modal - with the 1st 12 matching DNA marker results of the William Richard and Gideon lines and markers 13-25 matching for the Alsey and William Richard lines.  These three results place this line solidly in Group 3b with the modal for these three results a perfect match overall at 25 markers to the Group 3b modal. Rebecca Christensen --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> Subject: [PACE] William Pace-Sicely Walker descendents To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 9:00 PM This small group is emerging as a very interesting study. There are three donors now tracing different lineages back to William and Sicely. DNA evidence relates them to the John Pace-Sarah ?Burgh? (John the Tory) group, but their submitted lineages show no relationship to that group. The problem is that there is no documentation as to William's father, and all before that seems to be speculation and circumstantial evidence. I have grouped these three at the bottom of the Group 3b chart so that they will be together, and I have grouped them on the Donors page, where there is also a link to some speculation by Charles R. Pace as to William's possible parentage-look for the link. Rebecca might have some commentary on this line???? http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm and scroll to the bottom of the chart. Click the kit numbers if you want to see the lineages. Roy Johnson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.14/1829 - Release Date: 12/4/2008 2:59 PM