Maybe we should try to contact Orlando Pace to see if he might be interested. I remember reading that right after he signed his pro contract he hired a genealogist to trace his family history. It would be interesting to learn what he learned and would be doubly interesting if he were interested. Jonathan A Pace Marietta, GA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Aaron Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Alabama Paces I've been interested for some time in learning how the African American PACE lines tie in. Orlando Pace, for example has been one of the best offensive linemen in the NFL....and as a Michigan fan, it pains me to say that since Pace is an Ohio State guy. :) Scott --- On Mon, 10/20/08, Lois Long Carey <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Lois Long Carey <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] Alabama Paces > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 8:06 AM > I agree with Joe . I would love to hear from any black Paces > from Alabama( > or elsewhere) who could submit to a DNA test. > Is it possible that since in 1850 Cherokees were listed as > black, that some > black Paces today could believe they > are black because of being listed that way on earlier > census, rather than > Cherokee? Are there any Paces in the > Society with Cherokee ancestry who have done the DNA test? > Is there DNA > different from others? > Anyone with Pace ancestry should be welcomed to the Society > .They may > possibly solve many questions. > If my Canadian friend is a subscriber to this list. I would > love to hear > from her and whether she ever did get a relative > to do the test. Do you know,Gordon in Canada? She brought > pictures of her > relatives in the USA who were black, > but she looks as white as anyone I know. > >From some notes from her. > William Chastain Captain went to Canada between 1837-1842 > With him was a Lucy Ann White b, June 16, 1827 in > Charlottesville or > Staunton,Va > >From more notes from her there seems to be a > connection to William Moment > Pace b. 1806 and Dicy King > The approx. location of the land that the Captain Children > inherited is 130 > acres at Cuffey's Creek > In her notes are also the following Virginia family names, > Meriwether > Anderson > Lewis > Henry Pace(editor of the" Gazette of the United > States"- broke the news on > Oct. 13, 1802 that > Thomas Jefferson had fathered a child by a slave( Slly > Hemmings) > Henry Pace's partner was found floating in the river > after the story broke. > Ann Meriwether Johnson( from her Captain line) had a second > marriage to John > Cosby. > This is of particular interest to me as the lady who lived > with my Pace > family was Fannie Cosby( wife of Edw.Cosby) > > > Lois Carey > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * > > Please note: My new email address is [email protected] > Please remove > [email protected] from your address books and files so that > we can stay in > touch! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janders 45" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: [PACE] tri-racial Paces > > > The black Paces that I knew growing up in Clarke Co, AL, > did not appear to > be of mixed race, but undoubtedly there are a number of > black Paces out > there who would be a yDNA match for our white Pace lines. > I only became > aware of a famous case from my home county a couple of > years ago: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pace_v._Alabama > > http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~novkov/research/pacechap.htm#_edn4 > The link will take you to a rather scholarly study of a > court case that went > all the way to the US Supreme Court. "Tony Pace . . . > . and his partner Mary > Ann Cox were convicted in 1881 of engaging in adultery or > fornication, a > felony because she was white and he was (in the statute's > language) a Negro > or a descendant of a Negro. . . . At the time of their > arrest, they were > living in Clarke County, in the south central region of > Alabama where many > former slaves had remained after emancipation. . . ." > > My hypothesis is that Tony Pace was a possible descendent > of Dempsey Pace > and, hence, a cousin. I had a lead on a possible > descendent of the Tony > Pace in the court case and I attempted to contact him in > order to invite him > to join the Pace Society and submit a DNA sample, but I got > no response to > my emails, possibly because the addresses I had were no > longer valid. > > I personally think that it would be great if we had some > DNA samples from > black Paces and I would welcome them into the Society. > > Joe Anderson > > > > > > From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]; > [email protected]> Date: > > Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:42:19 -0500> Subject: Re: > [PACE] tri-racial Paces > > > > << Many slaves took the last name of their > owners>> > > > > Yes, and thought some might not like it, some of those > slaves were the> > > children of the owners. Thus, some of them may carry > male Pace genes. 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