Many slaves took the last name of their owners regardless of how they were treated as it was a way to stay connected to their families and only life that they had known. I'm sure many descendants of slave owning families would like to assume that African Americans that kept the surname of their families did so because their ancestors were 'good' slave owners, but often it had nothing to do with how they were treated as slaves. In researching my own wife's family we found slavery horror stories, yet there her ancestors were, post Civil War, carrying the surnames of their owners. Scott --- On Sat, 10/18/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] tri-racial Paces > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 10:31 PM > I missed the earlier posts .... however, no big surprise for > me. My Dad > used to tell me how many slaves in the south would take on > the last name of > their "owners" if they were treated very well . > Besides that, we are really > all one anyway. > > > In a message dated 10/17/2008 9:42:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I am surprised that there were no responses to my previous > posts about the > tri-racial group in the upper south which included Paces. > Since members of > this group were classified variously as white, mulatto, or > FPC (free person > of color). Some of our non-matching Paces could come from > this group, many > of whom were so light skinned that they could easily pass > into the white > world and pass their name on. > > > > > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening > at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

<< Many slaves took the last name of their owners>> Yes, and thought some might not like it, some of those slaves were the children of the owners. Thus, some of them may carry male Pace genes. I would be much in favor of soliciting DNA from black Paces if we can find any who would donate. An unpleasant topic, and likely to stir controversy, but it needs to be said. I have private email from a society member that, only a few years ago, when he was contacted by a black Pace who wanted to join the society, he was told he would be ostracized if he pursued it and brought the person to a Pace Society meeting. The Pace society had a "whites only' restriction in the by-laws up to 2001. I certainly hope that feeling no longer exists and I think a strong stand should be made against it if it does. I have encouraged Europe Ahmed Farmer, the mixed race contact of mine who has Pace lineage, to join the Pace Society. I would not want him to feel unwelcome. Comment? Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Aaron Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] tri-racial Paces Many slaves took the last name of their owners regardless of how they were treated as it was a way to stay connected to their families and only life that they had known. I'm sure many descendants of slave owning families would like to assume that African Americans that kept the surname of their families did so because their ancestors were 'good' slave owners, but often it had nothing to do with how they were treated as slaves. In researching my own wife's family we found slavery horror stories, yet there her ancestors were, post Civil War, carrying the surnames of their owners. Scott --- On Sat, 10/18/08, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] tri-racial Paces > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 10:31 PM > I missed the earlier posts .... however, no big surprise for > me. My Dad > used to tell me how many slaves in the south would take on > the last name of > their "owners" if they were treated very well . > Besides that, we are really > all one anyway. > > > In a message dated 10/17/2008 9:42:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > [email protected] writes: > > I am surprised that there were no responses to my previous > posts about the > tri-racial group in the upper south which included Paces. > Since members of > this group were classified variously as white, mulatto, or > FPC (free person > of color). Some of our non-matching Paces could come from > this group, many > of whom were so light skinned that they could easily pass > into the white > world and pass their name on. > > > > > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening > at your destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: 10/18/2008 6:01 PM

> The Pace society had a "whites > only' restriction in > the by-laws up to 2001. Wow...I had know idea that was the case. I guess it shouldn't be overly surprising given that genealogy is primarily an 'older generation' hobby, and older generations grew up in a time when that mentality was tolerated (especially in the south, and of course most of the PACE lines have southern heritage...and I'm guessing the Society may have been founded in the south given that fact), but its still kind of shocking when you see/read something like that...especially today. In 2001? Whew. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com