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    1. Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent
    2. Micky Freeman

    3. Roy, I am a novice concerning DNA testing, but as I understand it, females are not acceptable as donors, right? I am a descendent of Twitty Pace -he was my .g.g.g.g.uncle-and I'd be happy to help if I could. Twitty Pace was the brother of Francis Pace, my ggg grandfather. So I just wanted to pass this along, I feel foolish to let everyone know how little I know about this subject! But it is amazing. Micky P Freeman [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> To: "'Gordon W. Pace'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > Yes, it would, and that has been posted on the list before, but so far no > one has come forward. Anyone know a Twitty descendent? Funding could be > obtained. > > Roy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Gordon W. Pace > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > > Roy: > My database showed that Twitty Pace was a descendant of Richard Pace of > Jamestown and the documentation seemed fairly good. This is now somewhat > questionable, but there could have been a paternity error subsequent to > Twitty Pace. So another DNA test from a descendant of Twitty would > probably > be very helpful. > Gordon W. Pace > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sep 22, 2008 3:57 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent >> >>Kit 55000 submits this lineage: >> >> >> >>. Donor >> * 1. Father >> * 2. Grandfather >> * 3. JOHN ASHLY PACE b Oct 1861 Fannin Co. TX d Abt. 1921/22 >> -----Lamar or Fannin Co. TX >> + GEORGIE MAE SCALES (sources for John and Georgie are verbal >> information from living individuals, including my father, grandmother, >> and great aunt. >> Some of my family still residing in Fannin/Grayson/Lamar county have >> most of the documented sources from the court houses in those counties. >> I have received most of my information from them via emails; 1870, 1900, >> 1910, 1920, and 1930 census records) >> * 4. ASHLEY L. PACE b 12 Dec 1834 AR d 7 Feb 1863 Grayson >> Co. TX; >> (same sources as above; 1860 census record) >> + ARAMINTA DAVIS m. 20 Dec 1860 Fannin Co. TX (2nd Wife, mother of >> John Ashly) >> * 5. TWITTY PACE b 29 Dec 1789 Greenville Co., SC d 11 Feb >> 1849 Fannin Co., TX + SUSANNAH DUNCAN m. 19 Apr 1810 Warren Co., Kentucky >>(Twitty Pace Bible, owned by Bland and Simeon Smith of Bonham, TX... >>published in the >> Fannin County Folks and Facts book (Bonham Public Library - 1977) >> >> >> >>DNA results for alleles 1-25 were inconclusive showing possible inclusion > in >>group 3b with three differences-the borderline area. >> >> >> >>Results for 26-37 show conclusively that this donor is NOT in 3b. >> >> >> >>Modal for 3b 26-37: 11 11 19 22 16 15 17 17 36 40 12 12 >> >> >> >>Results for kit 55000: 10 10 23 23 16 15 20 16 37 37 12 12 >> >> >> >>As you can see, there are almost too many differences to count. I will > need >>to remove this kit from the 3b chart to the unidentified Paces chart. >> >> >> >>Are there any other Twitty Pace descendents out there? It would be good to >>get more DNA. >> >> >> >>Roy Johnson >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 > 7:01 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    11/12/2008 04:08:26
    1. Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent
    2. Roy Johnson

    3. Don't feel foolish; everyone has to start somewhere. As I tell my classes, there is no such thing as a silly question if you don't know the answer. Genealogical studies have to use test the Y chromosome, which passes only male to male, because it is the only one that passes in pure form male to male, and male to male is the only way to follow a surname, due to our custom of passing surnames male to male. The mtdna test for females also passes in pure form. (Males have it but do not pass it on.) But it goes straight up the female line, never crossing over, since males to not pass it on. So your mtdna would go to your mother, her mother, etc., and would never hit the male or Pace side. Other DNA is impossible to trace because there is no way to tell which ancestor it came from. If you know any male Pace descendents of Francis, it would be good to get their DNA. His DNA should be identical to or closely match Twitty's. Actually you are not a descendent of Twitty, but of his brother Francis. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Micky Freeman Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent Roy, I am a novice concerning DNA testing, but as I understand it, females are not acceptable as donors, right? I am a descendent of Twitty Pace -he was my .g.g.g.g.uncle-and I'd be happy to help if I could. Twitty Pace was the brother of Francis Pace, my ggg grandfather. So I just wanted to pass this along, I feel foolish to let everyone know how little I know about this subject! But it is amazing. Micky P Freeman [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> To: "'Gordon W. Pace'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > Yes, it would, and that has been posted on the list before, but so far no > one has come forward. Anyone know a Twitty descendent? Funding could be > obtained. > > Roy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Gordon W. Pace > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 7:26 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent > > Roy: > My database showed that Twitty Pace was a descendant of Richard Pace of > Jamestown and the documentation seemed fairly good. This is now somewhat > questionable, but there could have been a paternity error subsequent to > Twitty Pace. So another DNA test from a descendant of Twitty would > probably > be very helpful. > Gordon W. Pace > > -----Original Message----- >>From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >>Sent: Sep 22, 2008 3:57 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: [PACE] New DNA results for Twitty Pace descendent >> >>Kit 55000 submits this lineage: >> >> >> >>. Donor >> * 1. Father >> * 2. Grandfather >> * 3. JOHN ASHLY PACE b Oct 1861 Fannin Co. TX d Abt. 1921/22 >> -----Lamar or Fannin Co. TX >> + GEORGIE MAE SCALES (sources for John and Georgie are verbal >> information from living individuals, including my father, grandmother, >> and great aunt. >> Some of my family still residing in Fannin/Grayson/Lamar county have >> most of the documented sources from the court houses in those counties. >> I have received most of my information from them via emails; 1870, 1900, >> 1910, 1920, and 1930 census records) >> * 4. ASHLEY L. PACE b 12 Dec 1834 AR d 7 Feb 1863 Grayson >> Co. TX; >> (same sources as above; 1860 census record) >> + ARAMINTA DAVIS m. 20 Dec 1860 Fannin Co. TX (2nd Wife, mother of >> John Ashly) >> * 5. TWITTY PACE b 29 Dec 1789 Greenville Co., SC d 11 Feb >> 1849 Fannin Co., TX + SUSANNAH DUNCAN m. 19 Apr 1810 Warren Co., Kentucky >>(Twitty Pace Bible, owned by Bland and Simeon Smith of Bonham, TX... >>published in the >> Fannin County Folks and Facts book (Bonham Public Library - 1977) >> >> >> >>DNA results for alleles 1-25 were inconclusive showing possible inclusion > in >>group 3b with three differences-the borderline area. >> >> >> >>Results for 26-37 show conclusively that this donor is NOT in 3b. >> >> >> >>Modal for 3b 26-37: 11 11 19 22 16 15 17 17 36 40 12 12 >> >> >> >>Results for kit 55000: 10 10 23 23 16 15 20 16 37 37 12 12 >> >> >> >>As you can see, there are almost too many differences to count. I will > need >>to remove this kit from the 3b chart to the unidentified Paces chart. >> >> >> >>Are there any other Twitty Pace descendents out there? It would be good to >>get more DNA. >> >> >> >>Roy Johnson >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ________________________________________ > PeoplePC Online > A better way to Internet > http://www.peoplepc.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 > 7:01 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1784 - Release Date: 11/12/2008 7:01 PM

    11/13/2008 02:19:46