Spencer Pace was a figment of my imagination. I meant Dempsey Pace and I think my brain scrambled the letters around. My mistake. Roy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lois Long Carey Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] Wales group kit 126592 and Spencer Pace Somewhere in my notes I heard from a man who lived in N.C in the house that once belonged to Spencer Pace. Was there more than one Spencer Pace? Will try to find my notes! Lois carey * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Please note: My new email address is [email protected] Please remove [email protected] from your address books and files so that we can stay in touch! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lonnie Pace" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] Wales group kit 126592 > Roy, > > Well, I might as well "pile on" too. > > In the black paragraph under the chart, you say "126591 is a descendent > of the third brother, Spencer." > > We can't all be without error. I appreciate the work that you do, and > only wish that I had your understanding of the subject. > > Let's see if I have this straight. I gather from the information that: > A: it is believed that there were three brothers, John, William and > Dempsey Pace, and > B: we have DNA samples from direct line descendants of each of these > three brothers, and the commonality of these samples appears to prove > that belief, and > C: There is no such thing as "Proof Positive", rather only a > preponderance of the evidence submitted that strengthens said belief. > > Thank You, > > Lonnie Pace > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Roy Johnson > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] Wales group kit 126592 > > Thanks for the heads up. Don't know where Ic ame up with Spencer. > > Roy > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Janders 45 > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 5:13 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] Wales group kit 126592 > > I see one error in the chart - Spencer should be Dempsey. Yes, > Frederick > Pace of Wales is alive and well, at least from a family tree/ancestral > chart > point of view. > > The DNA results only indicate that it is highly probable that the five > individuals tested have a common male ancestor at some point in time, > but > the DNA results alone can't speak to the exact nature of that > relationship. > To determine this, we have to rely on other sources and, fortunately, > the > nature of the relationship of the three Clarke Co Paces, William, John, > and > Dempsey, is rather well documented. The DNA evidence does not "prove" > that > these old sources are true, but the evidence is consistent with the old > sources, so it does suggest that they are likely to be true. As Roy > pointed > out, we can now be confident that the father of these Paces "was not > "John > the Tory" as has been alleged." > > Joe Anderson > > > >> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 > 22:17:08 -0500> Subject: Re: [PACE] Wales group kit 126592> > I just > re-read > Bob Webb's commentary that at least one of these persons> might be a > brother > of Frederick rather than a son. The DNA would results> would neither > prove > nor disprove that belief. As far as the DNA is> concerned, this would be > quite possible.> > Roy> > -----Original Message-----> From: > [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf> > Of > Roy Johnson> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 9:57 PM> To: > [email protected]> Subject: [PACE] Wales group kit 126592> > The results > on > this kit are interesting and relevant to further> understanding this > group. > With results in for the three sons of the believed> Frederick, we now > have a > perfect 37/37 match for two of the sons, William> and Spencer, and a > 25/25 > match for two of the four descendents of John. This> would make it > likely > that we have 37 markers of the DNA of the fathers of> these sons, and > virtually certain that we have 25 markers of his DNA.> > > > This group > seems very firmly established. Too bad we can't find any> documentary > records on the father, but we can be sure that he was not "John> the > Tory" > as has been alleged.> > > > The chart is at > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Walesetc.htm> > > > Roy Johnson> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send > an email to> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in> the subject and the body of the message> > No virus found > in > this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: > 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date: 11/1/2008> 7:56 > PM> > >> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send > an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > When your life is on the go-take your life with you. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/115298558/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1760 - Release Date: > 11/1/2008 > 7:56 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. 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