James: I think we've discuss this before. There is a William Corker who lived just below Richard & Isabella's Paces Paines, and it was George Pace's 1650 patent that lists Richard Rawlins. Val -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: James Blair <[email protected]> > James Pace of York Co. died by 25 May 1673. Where did he come from, who did he > associate with, and was he related to the Paces of Charles City Co.? > > He was apparently adult by 1659 when he bought a gun at the estate sale of John > Marsh. So he must have been born by or before 1638, which means he was not a > younger brother of Richard Pace (m. Mary). > > To be descended from Richard and Isabella, he would have to be a younger brother > of George (m. Sarah Maycock). Or he might have been a later immigrant, > unrelated to Richard and Isabella. > > Another interesting question: was James Pace of York Co. related to the Richard > Pace who was claimed as headright by William Corker? > > Some additional information: > > As previously mentioned in this thread, in 1673 "William Major on behalf of Mr. > James Pace, entered a claim against the estate of Clement Marsh for _16 10sh > sterling." > > Also as previously mentioned, Clement Marsh married the relict of Maj. Joseph > Croshaw. Joseph Croshaw's brother, Richard Croshaw, died by May 1669 (will > proved, York Co); his widow married William Corker. > > That suggests (to me) that there might well have been a relationship between > James Pace (d. 1673) and the Richard Pace whom Corker claimed as headright. But > clearly it remains only a possibility. > > There is also the question of whether the Richard Pace who was claimed as > headright by William Corker was the same person as the Richard Pace whose widow > married William Briscoe. > > Several records in York Co, previously cited, show William Briscoe collecting or > paying debts connected with Richard Pace's ordinary. Briscoe's attorney, in > some of these court cases, is Roger Rawlings. For instance: > > "6 Sept 1681, Surry Co. Court Orders Book 3, page 348 > Roger Rawlins attorney of Wm Briskoe who married the relict of Rich. Pace dec'd. > Agst Mr. Fran. Taylor for expenses in the said Pace's ordinary." > > Roger Rawlings' brother-in-law was William Newsome. (Rawlings married Newsome's > sister Alice.) > > William Newsome's stepfather was George Watkins, who married the widow of > William Newsome's father, also called William Newsome. George Watkins' will > mentions "Elizabeth Spencer, my God-daughter, daughter of my well > > beloved friend, Captain Robert Spencer..." Robert Spencer married Elizabeth > White, daughter of William Corker's second wife. (See Boddie, "Southside > Virginia Families", p169; and "The Newsom Family: And Related Families of Surry, > Isle of Wight, Southampton and Sussex Counties, Va.", B. C. Holtzclaw, Virginia > Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 47, No. 4 (Oct., 1939), pp. 363-374) > > This shows that William Corker, who claimed headright for Richard Pace, was part > of the same web of relationships as Roger Rawlings who acted as attorney for > William Briscoe who married the widow of Richard Pace. It's not proof, but it > does seem to me that probably the Richard Pace who was claimed as headright was > the same Richard Pace who ran the ordinary. > > Another question: if the Richard Pace who ran the ordinary was the one who was > claimed by Corker as headright, what about Richard Pace who on 17 March 1673 > served on a jury which escheated the land of Cornelius Johnathan? > > The land was re-patented 26 March 1674 by Daniel Wyld. Daniel Wyld's > brother-in-law Philip Chesley patented land jointly with Nicholas Meriwether, > who was mentioned (together with Joseph Croshaw) in the nuncupative will of > William Corker. > > In the York court of Oct 1665, Daniel Wyld proved the will of Thomas Bromfield, > whose widow Mary remarried to Joseph Croshaw and, after Croshaw's death, to > Clement Marsh whose estate was in dispute with the estate of James Pace in 1673. > > I think these associations support (though they do not prove) the hypothesis > that the Richard Pace who sat on the escheating jury was the same Richard Pace > who was claimed by Corker as headright, ran the ordinary, and may have been > related to James Pace who by 1673 had died in York Co. > > One more question: what about the Richard Pace who appears with Francis Sowersby > on tithable lists in Surry Co for 1668, 1669, 1670? > > Francis Sowersby married Mary Jordan, daughter of Thomas Jordan and Jane Browne > (widow of Robert Spencer whose first wife was William Corker's stepdaughter > Elizabeth White. > > Thomas Jordan (Francis Sowersby's father-in-law) married as his second wife Lucy > Corker, daughter of William Corker. > > I think this supports the hypothesis that the Richard Pace who appeared with > Francis Sowersby on the tithable lists was the same Richard Pace who was claimed > by William Corker as headright. (Speculation: This also fits well with the > timing of the escheating jury record: if Richard Pace was a relation of James > Pace, who died by 1673, he might have moved to James Pace's land and thus become > available for jury duty. Pure speculation.) > > All in all, considering the various associations and interactions, my own > opinion is that James and Richard Pace of York probably WERE related to one > another. Whether either or both was related to any other Paces in Virginia is > anybody's guess, but I will mention again the record of 7 Nov 1656: "Thomas Pace > of Bath, Som gent, bound to John White, merchant, > to serve 4 years in Virginia." (Coldham, "The Complete Book of Emigrants > 1607-1660" pg 331). John White, whose widow married William Corker, was a > merchant in James City Co. It could be the same John White. > > James > > > --- On Wed, 1/14/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > > Subject: [PACE] James Pace d. York Co 1673 > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:19 AM > > In 1659, a James Pace attended the estate sale of John Marsh > > in York Co. VA; he bought a gun. Also present at the sale: > > Capt. Langley, Jeremiah Rawlings. [In 1683, Nicholas Ware > > patented 300 acres in New Kent County adj "land of > > Jeremiah Rawlins, decd". > > Nicholas Ware was a merchant and was related by marriage to > > the Vassall family. He is a forebear of the James Ware who > > is said to have married "Agnes Pace".] > > > > Fourteen years later, in 1673, also in York Co., > > "Mr" James Pace has died, and there is a dispute > > concerning his estate, and the estate of a Clement Marsh: > > > > 24 MAR 1673 William Major on behalf of Mr. James Pace, > > entered a claim against the estate of Clement Marsh for _16 > > 10sh sterling. > > > > 25 MAY 1673 James Pace , deceased. General Court ordered > > that no judgements should pass against his estate, so ref > > granted in diff betw his estate and estate of Clement Marsh > > -- perhaps, or perhaps not, a relative of the John Marsh at > > whose estate sale James Pace bought a gun. Also of > > interest: a William MAJOR is acting on behalf of Mr. James > > Pace. > > > > So who was Clement Marsh? I don't know, but he > > evidently had a dispute, in 1672, with Robert Spring: > > > > 11 JAN 1671/2 Know all men that I Clement Marsh stand > > indebted to Mr. Robert Spring, _130, upon demand of his > > executors, administrators, or assigns. > > > > 27 FEB 1671/2 Clement Marsh confessed judgement to Mr. > > Robert Spring for _130 sterling. > > > > [24 OCT 1683 Judgement granted Mr. William Briscoe (who > > married the relict of a Richard Pace) agn Mrs. Ann Spring > > exr of Mr. Robert Spring.] > > > > But Clement Marsh's main claim to fame is that he > > married the widow of Joseph Croshaw, son of Raleigh Croshaw > > who arrived in 1608 on the Second Supply. "27 FEB > > 1671/2 Clement Marsh to marry Mary Croshaw, agrees Mary has > > full power and authorization after marriage to her real and > > personal property and to give to her children or > > otherwise." Attagirl. > > > > Joseph Croshaw had five wives; the last, who outlived him, > > was Mary PERHAPS Ballard. Mary PERHAPS Ballard marred (1) > > Thomas Broomfield (2) Joseph Croshaw and (3) Clement Marsh. > > Mary PERHAPS Ballard was PERHAPS sister of Thomas Ballard, > > later to be sheriff of York Co. The Ballards and the > > Langleys (Capt. Langley, who was present at the estate sale > > of John Marsh} and the Majors were all intermarried; it > > would be very interesting to know if the Judith Major who > > married Henry Walker in Granville Co NC was related to these > > Majors. > > > > Joseph Croshaw's daughter Unity married (in 1654) John > > West, son of the Governor. Their son Nathaniel West married > > the widow of Gideon Macon. [24 OCT 1679 Judgement granted > > unto Wm Briscoe adm of estate of Richard Pace decd agn Jno > > Vaden adm of estate of Nick Toop decd for payment of 48sh > > sterling with costs. John Vaden enters Gideon Macon his > > attorney.] > > > > These records seem to show that the James Pace who died in > > York Co in 1673, and the Richard Pace whose widow married > > William Briscoe had associates in common. I myself have not > > been able to arrive at a convincing hypothesis as to who > > James Pace might have been, what might have been his > > relationship (if any) to Richard Pace (relict m. Briscoe), > > or what, if any, might have been the relationship of any of > > them to Richard Pace m. Mary. > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message