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    1. Re: [PACE] James Pace and Richard Pace, York Co.
    2. James Blair
    3. That's right, it's the same William Corker (see Boddie "Southside Virginia Families" p169). He bought the land from Thomas Rolfe (son of Pocahontas) in 1657. I haven't found anything more about Richard Rawlings. In case others are interested, there was a Richard Rawlings, who could be the same one that George Pace claimed headright for, who married Susannah Daux, daughter of Walter Daux, who may be the same Walter Daux claimed as a headright by William Perry in 1633 and again in 1637. I haven't found out whether Richard Rawlings was related to Roger Rawlings. James --- On Mon, 2/2/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] James Pace and Richard Pace, York Co. > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 11:29 AM > James: > > I think we've discuss this before. There is a William > Corker who lived just below Richard & Isabella's > Paces Paines, and it was George Pace's 1650 patent that > lists Richard Rawlins. > > Val > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > > James Pace of York Co. died by 25 May 1673. Where did > he come from, who did he > > associate with, and was he related to the Paces of > Charles City Co.? > > > > He was apparently adult by 1659 when he bought a gun > at the estate sale of John > > Marsh. So he must have been born by or before 1638, > which means he was not a > > younger brother of Richard Pace (m. Mary). > > > > To be descended from Richard and Isabella, he would > have to be a younger brother > > of George (m. Sarah Maycock). Or he might have been a > later immigrant, > > unrelated to Richard and Isabella. > > > > Another interesting question: was James Pace of York > Co. related to the Richard > > Pace who was claimed as headright by William Corker? > > > > Some additional information: > > > > As previously mentioned in this thread, in 1673 > "William Major on behalf of Mr. > > James Pace, entered a claim against the estate of > Clement Marsh for _16 10sh > > sterling." > > > > Also as previously mentioned, Clement Marsh married > the relict of Maj. Joseph > > Croshaw. Joseph Croshaw's brother, Richard > Croshaw, died by May 1669 (will > > proved, York Co); his widow married William Corker. > > > > That suggests (to me) that there might well have been > a relationship between > > James Pace (d. 1673) and the Richard Pace whom Corker > claimed as headright. But > > clearly it remains only a possibility. > > > > There is also the question of whether the Richard Pace > who was claimed as > > headright by William Corker was the same person as the > Richard Pace whose widow > > married William Briscoe. > > > > Several records in York Co, previously cited, show > William Briscoe collecting or > > paying debts connected with Richard Pace's > ordinary. Briscoe's attorney, in > > some of these court cases, is Roger Rawlings. For > instance: > > > > "6 Sept 1681, Surry Co. Court Orders Book 3, page > 348 > > Roger Rawlins attorney of Wm Briskoe who married the > relict of Rich. Pace dec'd. > > Agst Mr. Fran. Taylor for expenses in the said > Pace's ordinary." > > > > Roger Rawlings' brother-in-law was William > Newsome. (Rawlings married Newsome's > > sister Alice.) > > > > William Newsome's stepfather was George Watkins, > who married the widow of > > William Newsome's father, also called William > Newsome. George Watkins' will > > mentions "Elizabeth Spencer, my God-daughter, > daughter of my well > > > beloved friend, Captain Robert Spencer..." > Robert Spencer married Elizabeth > > White, daughter of William Corker's second wife. > (See Boddie, "Southside > > Virginia Families", p169; and "The Newsom > Family: And Related Families of Surry, > > Isle of Wight, Southampton and Sussex Counties, > Va.", B. C. Holtzclaw, Virginia > > Magazine of History and Biography, Vol. 47, No. 4 > (Oct., 1939), pp. 363-374) > > > > This shows that William Corker, who claimed headright > for Richard Pace, was part > > of the same web of relationships as Roger Rawlings who > acted as attorney for > > William Briscoe who married the widow of Richard Pace. > It's not proof, but it > > does seem to me that probably the Richard Pace who was > claimed as headright was > > the same Richard Pace who ran the ordinary. > > > > Another question: if the Richard Pace who ran the > ordinary was the one who was > > claimed by Corker as headright, what about Richard > Pace who on 17 March 1673 > > served on a jury which escheated the land of Cornelius > Johnathan? > > > > The land was re-patented 26 March 1674 by Daniel Wyld. > Daniel Wyld's > > brother-in-law Philip Chesley patented land jointly > with Nicholas Meriwether, > > who was mentioned (together with Joseph Croshaw) in > the nuncupative will of > > William Corker. > > > > In the York court of Oct 1665, Daniel Wyld proved the > will of Thomas Bromfield, > > whose widow Mary remarried to Joseph Croshaw and, > after Croshaw's death, to > > Clement Marsh whose estate was in dispute with the > estate of James Pace in 1673. > > > > I think these associations support (though they do not > prove) the hypothesis > > that the Richard Pace who sat on the escheating jury > was the same Richard Pace > > who was claimed by Corker as headright, ran the > ordinary, and may have been > > related to James Pace who by 1673 had died in York Co. > > > > One more question: what about the Richard Pace who > appears with Francis Sowersby > > on tithable lists in Surry Co for 1668, 1669, 1670? > > > > Francis Sowersby married Mary Jordan, daughter of > Thomas Jordan and Jane Browne > > (widow of Robert Spencer whose first wife was William > Corker's stepdaughter > > Elizabeth White. > > > > Thomas Jordan (Francis Sowersby's father-in-law) > married as his second wife Lucy > > Corker, daughter of William Corker. > > > > I think this supports the hypothesis that the Richard > Pace who appeared with > > Francis Sowersby on the tithable lists was the same > Richard Pace who was claimed > > by William Corker as headright. (Speculation: This > also fits well with the > > timing of the escheating jury record: if Richard Pace > was a relation of James > > Pace, who died by 1673, he might have moved to James > Pace's land and thus become > > available for jury duty. Pure speculation.) > > > > All in all, considering the various associations and > interactions, my own > > opinion is that James and Richard Pace of York > probably WERE related to one > > another. Whether either or both was related to any > other Paces in Virginia is > > anybody's guess, but I will mention again the > record of 7 Nov 1656: "Thomas Pace > > of Bath, Som gent, bound to John White, merchant, > > to serve 4 years in Virginia." (Coldham, > "The Complete Book of Emigrants > > 1607-1660" pg 331). John White, whose widow > married William Corker, was a > > merchant in James City Co. It could be the same John > White. > > > > James > > > > > > --- On Wed, 1/14/09, James Blair > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > From: James Blair <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [PACE] James Pace d. York Co 1673 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:19 AM > > > In 1659, a James Pace attended the estate sale of > John Marsh > > > in York Co. VA; he bought a gun. Also present at > the sale: > > > Capt. Langley, Jeremiah Rawlings. [In 1683, > Nicholas Ware > > > patented 300 acres in New Kent County adj > "land of > > > Jeremiah Rawlins, decd". > > > Nicholas Ware was a merchant and was related by > marriage to > > > the Vassall family. He is a forebear of the > James Ware who > > > is said to have married "Agnes Pace".] > > > > > > Fourteen years later, in 1673, also in York Co., > > > "Mr" James Pace has died, and there is > a dispute > > > concerning his estate, and the estate of a > Clement Marsh: > > > > > > 24 MAR 1673 William Major on behalf of Mr. James > Pace, > > > entered a claim against the estate of Clement > Marsh for _16 > > > 10sh sterling. > > > > > > 25 MAY 1673 James Pace , deceased. General Court > ordered > > > that no judgements should pass against his > estate, so ref > > > granted in diff betw his estate and estate of > Clement Marsh > > > -- perhaps, or perhaps not, a relative of the > John Marsh at > > > whose estate sale James Pace bought a gun. Also > of > > > interest: a William MAJOR is acting on behalf of > Mr. James > > > Pace. > > > > > > So who was Clement Marsh? I don't know, but > he > > > evidently had a dispute, in 1672, with Robert > Spring: > > > > > > 11 JAN 1671/2 Know all men that I Clement Marsh > stand > > > indebted to Mr. Robert Spring, _130, upon demand > of his > > > executors, administrators, or assigns. > > > > > > 27 FEB 1671/2 Clement Marsh confessed judgement > to Mr. > > > Robert Spring for _130 sterling. > > > > > > [24 OCT 1683 Judgement granted Mr. William > Briscoe (who > > > married the relict of a Richard Pace) agn Mrs. > Ann Spring > > > exr of Mr. Robert Spring.] > > > > > > But Clement Marsh's main claim to fame is > that he > > > married the widow of Joseph Croshaw, son of > Raleigh Croshaw > > > who arrived in 1608 on the Second Supply. > "27 FEB > > > 1671/2 Clement Marsh to marry Mary Croshaw, > agrees Mary has > > > full power and authorization after marriage to > her real and > > > personal property and to give to her children or > > > otherwise." Attagirl. > > > > > > Joseph Croshaw had five wives; the last, who > outlived him, > > > was Mary PERHAPS Ballard. Mary PERHAPS Ballard > marred (1) > > > Thomas Broomfield (2) Joseph Croshaw and (3) > Clement Marsh. > > > Mary PERHAPS Ballard was PERHAPS sister of Thomas > Ballard, > > > later to be sheriff of York Co. The Ballards and > the > > > Langleys (Capt. Langley, who was present at the > estate sale > > > of John Marsh} and the Majors were all > intermarried; it > > > would be very interesting to know if the Judith > Major who > > > married Henry Walker in Granville Co NC was > related to these > > > Majors. > > > > > > Joseph Croshaw's daughter Unity married (in > 1654) John > > > West, son of the Governor. Their son Nathaniel > West married > > > the widow of Gideon Macon. [24 OCT 1679 > Judgement granted > > > unto Wm Briscoe adm of estate of Richard Pace > decd agn Jno > > > Vaden adm of estate of Nick Toop decd for payment > of 48sh > > > sterling with costs. John Vaden enters Gideon > Macon his > > > attorney.] > > > > > > These records seem to show that the James Pace > who died in > > > York Co in 1673, and the Richard Pace whose widow > married > > > William Briscoe had associates in common. I > myself have not > > > been able to arrive at a convincing hypothesis as > to who > > > James Pace might have been, what might have been > his > > > relationship (if any) to Richard Pace (relict m. > Briscoe), > > > or what, if any, might have been the relationship > of any of > > > them to Richard Pace m. Mary. > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > [email protected] with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of > > the message

    02/02/2009 02:56:29
    1. Re: [PACE] James Pace and Richard Pace, York Co.
    2. James Blair
    3. Here's a description of the land William Corker bought from Thomas Rolfe, from "Virginia: A Guide to the Old Dominion" (WPA): "...one hundred & fivety Acres of land in Surry County lyeing between Smith's fort old feild & the Divill's Woodyard Swampe...being due unto the said Rolfe by Guift from the Indyan King." But it looks like what William Corker bought was only a portion of the King's Guift, because Boddie also says (SVG p153): "This [1639 deed from John Kempe to Henry Hart] shows that Henry Hart was a neighbor of the Warrens and Shephards who lived in this locality and with whom his family intermarried. It was also adjacent to the land of Thomas, son of John Rolfe, which was later purchased by Thomas Warren. (C.P.121). "Henry Hart was deceased before July 3, 1648, for "Thomas Hart(2), son of Henry Hart, deceased, was granted 100 acres at Smith's Fort (C.P.176). Thomas Hart married Anne Sheppard, daughter of Major Robert Sheppard (1604-1654).... Major Robert Sheppard married Elizabeth, daughter of William Spencer, Burgess of Mulberry Island 1624-32-33.... Mrs. Elizabeth Shepard, widow of Major Robert Shepard married, secondly, Thomas Warren, builder of the famous "Warren House". (Id. 66-72. V.H.G. 244-46). "... Mrs Hart married secondly, William Newson between June 10, 1669 and Jan.4,1669/70, when as the wife of William Newson, she deeded land to their sister Alice Rawlings." (Alice Rawlings was the wife of Roger Rawlings.) According to a description of "Warren House" at http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/jamesriver/war.htm, "The house was long thought to have been the 17th-century home of either John Rolfe or Thomas Warren. However, a dendrochronological study, which included an analysis of tree ring sizes in the timbers of the house, indicated the house was built c. 1763, and most likely first occupied by Jacob Faulcon." James --- On Mon, 2/2/09, James Blair <[email protected]> wrote: > That's right, it's the same William Corker (see > Boddie "Southside Virginia Families" p169). He > bought the land from Thomas Rolfe (son of Pocahontas) in > 1657. > > > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, [email protected] > > > > I think we've discuss this before. There is a > William > > Corker who lived just below Richard & > Isabella's > > Paces Paines, and it was George Pace's 1650 patent > that > > lists Richard Rawlins. > > > > Val

    02/02/2009 07:51:34