Bob, This is one of the first letters I received back in 1998. The writer talks of JOHN BURGESS PACE (his grandfather) who moved to TACOMA, Washington. He was son of CALVIN PACE (62 years old-1881 census) (20 years senior to his wife RACHEL) SUBJECT: PACE Family - VIENNA, Elgin County, ONTARIO, Canada Date: 98-03-10 From: John Terry Looking for ancestors of my great grandfather and great grandmother, CALVIN and RACHEL PACE, pioneers of VIENNA, ONTARIO, CANADA. Per the 1881 Canadian census, CALVIN was 62 years old at the time of the census (20 years senior to his wife RACHEL). He was born in ONTARIO Province about 1819 and of Prussian decent. He was a machinist by trade. Was a member of the Methodist church. RACHEL moved to VIENNA from the NIAGARA District with her family when she was 2 years old (about 1841). Per the 1881 Canadian census RACHEL was born in Ontario and of ENGLISH decent. Her father was a builder of houses and built the first grist mill in Vienna. After she married, she had a farm on the OTTER CREEK Bank overlooking VIENNA. She was a member of the Methodist Brethren in pioneer days. Have newspaper clipping commemorating RACHEL's 98th and 100th birthdays (one printed in the ST THOMAS TIMES, the other from a paper in PORT BURWELL). There son, JOHN BURGESS PACE (my grandfather) moved to TACOMA, WA and married my grandmother SIGNA AUGUSTA ANDERSON. JOHN BURGESS PACE was killed in a hit-and-run auto accident in 1937. Please respond to JOHN TERRY, 211 Campbell, Redlands, CA 92373 ----- We know CALVIN PACE 1830-1908 March 4 1830 had a brother MICHAEL PACE Chr March 10 1830, both MICHAEL & CALVIN were Christened March 10 1830 "Move to WASHINGTON" (in JOHN TERRY's 1998 email) can possibly be linked to another member of this PACE family. WILLIAM JOHN PACE, a son of MICHAEL, CALVIN's brother, also had a leg in WASHINGTON State. WILLIAM JOHN PACE married + MARGARET TIERNEY 1868-1944 MARGARET Malima (Maggie) TIERNEY born 13 Aug 1868 VANCOUVER Washington State US where her family lived and father worked at the time. She died in TORONTO 1944. The TIERNEY family was from OTTAWA, Ontario (Napean) NEW INFO came on JUNE 13, 2009 from a TIERNEY Descendent that indicates the 1901 British Columbia census info on WILLIAM JOHN PACE may not be accurate and points to a PACE family in ONTARIO origin of UNITED EMPIRE LOYALIST background from New Jersey. also mentions WILLIAM JOHN PACE born abt 1863 in either Lambton or Elgin county in Ontario to Michale Pace and Catherine DAVIS - m Elgin county on 12 May 1859 - Michael Pace was a son of William Pace and Paulina Chapel who married Old Anglican Church St. THOMAS, ONTARIO MARRIAGE 26th Dec 1827 I have as the parents of 4 WILLIAM PACE + PAULINA CHAPEL - from early registers of the Old Anglican Church St. THOMAS, ONTARIO MARRIAGE 26th Dec 1827 3 MICHAEL WILLIAM PACE - born NJ 1781 Records regarding Michael Pace (that married Annie Eveland) list that his father William was a loyalist (unlike Johann Michael). NOTE: - "On Dec 2, 1811 Michael Pace filed a land petition requesting a lease on Lot 11, Con 7, Chalotteville Twp. An attached certificate of Jacob Sovereign noted that Michael's father, WILLIAM PACE supported the British cause during the American Revolution and "lost a handsome property which was possessed in New Jersey at the commencement of the American War." This coincides with the 1964 Pace memo that supposes the William Pace that was arrested for "provisioning the enemy" was William Pace, brother of Michael and Daniel. + ANNA EVELAND - married 11 February 1801 SUSSEX Co NJ children - Fred, William, David, Jacob, Samuel, and John E. ----- At this point since much of the early history of this family took place in eastern Pennsylvania with considerable German-Welsh settlement, enough to have towns named of their European origins, and the Prussian family adopted the name spelling PACE, would it not be logical to wonder if there were Paces of Welsh origin in the near vicinity of these Prussian families? More at http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/lines/yarmouth.htm http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info#lew Another interesting piece surfaced this year while going over some PACE family - Montana events - of Fred Pace's 1st Nations wife + MEDICINE BEAR WOMAN - Naa'tookyiaaki who survived the Baker Massacre of 23 January 1870 along the Marias River, east of Fort Benton & Great Falls, Montana which no doubt led to the Battle of Little Big Horn six years later. http://www.pacefamilyhistory.info/fredpace.htm#marias this name came up, also of the NJ PACE descendency Joseph Kipp half-Mandan Indian (North Dakota) son of white trader James Kipp Kipp (Joseph) married one of Heavy Runner's daughters, Martha, and adopted her children, who had been left fatherless by the soldiers. He had a colorful career in Canada and Montana, being known as "The Merchant Prince of the High Missouri." He testified under oath to the Indian Claims Commission in February, 1913, forty-three years after the massacre.] The KIPP-PACE names connect DAVID PACE - b abt 1817 + CATHERINE EVERITT 5 HANNAH PACE + DARWIN KIPP - m YARMOUTH Township ELGIN County, Ontario Scott Aaron wrote: The DARWIN KIPP you listed was the great-grandson of JAMES KIPP (1751-1785). JAMES KIPP (the famous fur-trader, who was close with many indian tribes in Montana) was named after JAMES (1751-1785)...his uncle. The JOSEPH KIPP that you mention was JAMES' (the furtrader) son. I'm not sure on the WELSH possibility, but there could be a connection. - SA also shown on the MARIAS SITE a person with name a variation of Pace: Lt. W. B. PEASE Blackfoot Indian Agent Lieutenant William Pease (actually a variation of PACE) acting as a Blackfoot agent, reported the massacre to the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, Ely Samuel Parker, a Civil War veteran, confidante to U.S. Grant and an Iroquois Indian whose real name was Donehogawa demanded a investigation, but the outcome was prevarication as the Army closed ranks with General Sherman saying he would prefer to believe his soldiers. In the end, no official recognition of the massacre was forthcoming and only time has brought a gradual acceptance of the fact of this massacre. The researchers of these events are many, my family has connections to Sitting Bull's time, the 1890s, in southern Alberta, the Blood Tribe, the NWMP, the railways, etc. the PACE family, as well as Charles Russell (Museum at Great Falls) who also spent time with the Bloods and Paces to learn more of the Indian-cowboy early pioneer life so he could paint his famous paintings. So Bob, the paths of Pace family history have intriguing wanderings that hold our interest. Yours has a most interesting background and the descendents continue to emerge and add their pieces, to the story. Gord Pace, gathering up the pieces