Roy, Thank you for all you have done, and continue to do, for the Pace family research, especially in the DNA area. It is amazing how much the PSA DNA project has contributed to our understanding of family relationship. We have come a long way since we started the DNA project in 2001-2002, and very fortunate that you agreed to manage the project. We also thank Rebecca Christensen for her many contributions to the DNA project. Her expertise in interpreting the results has proven invaluable. Again, thanks to both of you. Bob Pace On Dec 1, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Roy Johnson wrote: > I have been working on improving and better organizing the DNA > charts. I > have started with group 3, separating group 3a from 3b with a row > showing > the DYS numbers for easier reading, grouping the descendents from a > common > ancestor and using colors to separate them, and giving a more complete > lineage in each case (thanks to Rebecca for the suggestion). This > makes for > easier analysis. For example, one interesting occurrence is in 15548 > and > 163053, both descendents of William Pace + Ruth Lambert and whose > common > ancestor is Harvey Pace. > > > > They both have a mutation in DYS 385a. It appears that this mutation > occurred at Harvey Pace because (a) none of the other lineages up to > and > including Harvey's father have that mutation, and (b) these two lines > diverge immediately after Harvey, so the mutation probably did not > occur > after Harvey. I say probably because there might be a rare case of two > separate mutations after Harvey that just happened to coincide. > > > > However, this is helpful information. If we get more Harvey > descendents > through different sons, it would verify this hypothesis, and it > could help > to verify the lineage of some who might not be sure or even to > provide a > clue to the lineage of those who do not have a tree going back that > far. > > > > I have received numerous suggestions on improving the pages, some > worth > following, some would not work. Quite a few came from a lady named > Ellen. > The discussion became so detailed that I did not feel it belonged on > the > list so I tried to go off list, but Ellen refused in a rather caustic > posting that she does not do "back door" interchanges. She and I are > both > stubborn people and I will not discuss matters going into minute > detail on > the list, as I do not think it is pertinent to all on the list. So our > collaboration is over, but I have filed the better suggestions and > will act > on some of them. > > > > The DNA pages have sort of "just grown" and can stand some > reorganizing and > clarifying. Doing so will take some time but I will peck away at it > little > by little. > > > > Glad to hear any suggestions. > > > > The changes are on the group 3 page at > http://www.pacesociety.org/DNA/Group3.htm > > > > Have a look and give me your reactions. > > > > Roy Johnson > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message