i have this in my family older records from jimme c pace born 1902. i know barnabus pace (son of richard iv) first wife was agnes aycock. at least according to our records ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 >I question whether there is any documentary evidence for "Richard III' and > John being siblings of George. The only documentation I know is the > Winifred > Aycock Lane letter, which is not primary evidence and doesn't identify > which > of the three Richard Paces in Virginia at that time was her ancestor. > > There is much that go into many gedcoms that is not based on > documentation. > > Roy Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of Ricky Pace > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:09 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 > > Notes for GEORGE PACE II from Richard Eugene Pace's family tree gedcom: > George Pace II is the older brother of John I and Richard III. In the > absence of a will, all of Richard's real estate went to the oldest son, > George II. We know little of George II's history. In 1699 he was appointed > tobacco inspector for the warehouse at Maycox. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Blair" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:51 PM > Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 > > > Thank you but it wasn't I who identified George as being the probable > eldest > > son of Richard and Mary. It was probably Boddie, or perhaps Jester & > Hiden. > > James > > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 >> To: [email protected], [email protected] >> Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:43 PM >> I wish I could help also. This is exactly the kind of >> research needed to >> establish a line from the southern Paces to Richard of >> Jamestown--so many of >> the submitted lineages simply assume it. James, I believe >> you have done more >> than anyone else on the list to establish a line through >> George as the >> oldest son of Richard and Mary. I am beginning a quest to >> better understand >> groups 3a and 3b, which I have mainly just left to the >> families to sort out. >> I have your email somewhere which established the best >> evidence for this >> George, and I have to go back and find it and post it >> somewhere as our only >> documentary evidence even suggesting what the relationship >> back to Richard >> of Jamestown could be. My compliments, and keep it up. >> >> Roy Johnson >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of James Blair >> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:52 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard >> Pace 1759 >> >> >> --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Rebecca Christensen >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > James, >> > I sure wish I could give constructive comments. I >> > haven't generally researched the Paces this early, >> so am >> > unfamiliar with many of the names of others that you >> mention >> > but wish I was so I could follow where you are >> leading. >> >> >> It may lead nowhere. I'm just exploring, hoping to >> glean some clues as to >> the parents of John and Richard Pace who sold the land to >> Goodwyn in 1759. >> >> It appears to me, though I may be misinterpreting the >> records, that John >> Westhrope patented land near Wards Creek, some of which >> through various >> transactions came to belong to Francis Poythress, and some >> of which came to >> belong to George Blighton, father of Lydia Blighton >> Clements. >> >> George Blighton's share of the land, in the patent of >> 1686, is described as >> being near "the Southern Run". The land which >> Richard Pace and John Pace >> sold to Goodwyn in 1759 is described as being on the >> southwest side of the >> Southward Run. To me that suggests that the 16 acres being >> sold by Richard >> Pace and John Pace was near the land of George Blighton >> (which had >> originally been patented by John Westhrope in 1650), and >> therefore perhaps >> also near the land which Francis Poythress took up (which >> was originally >> part of the same John Westhrope patent). >> >> Therefore I wonder if some of the land which Richard Pace >> and a later >> Francis Poythress sold to a Goodwyn in 1718, might have >> been part of the >> Westhrope land. If so, might this tract of land >> subsequently have become >> called "Goodwins" and been sold to Lydia Blighton >> Clements in 1733, together >> with "a second plantation on which Lydia was then >> living". >> >> This line of reasoning, if borne out by the land >> descriptions, might suggest >> that John and Richard Pace were of the line of George Pace, >> eldest son of >> Richard and Mary. >> >> On the other hand, one of the witnesses to the sale of the >> 16 acres to >> Goodwyn in 1759 was Laurence Biggins, presumed to be the >> son of Arthur >> Biggins who in 1715 owned land bounding the land of James >> Pace. This might >> suggest that Richard and John Pace could have been of the >> line of James >> Pace. >> >> As I say, I'm exploring, rather than drawing any >> conclusions. >> >> James >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release >> Date: 1/4/2009 >> 4:32 PM > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 1/4/2009 > 4:32 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message