What is the difference between a "dower" and "dowry"? Bob Pace On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:30 PM, James Blair wrote: > Then "Major" was his name, not his title. I wondered about that. > > I misinterpreted the 1779 record because (as has now been explained > to me) I confused the term "dower" with the term "dowry". Apologies. > > James > > > --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Betty A Pace <[email protected]> wrote: > >> From: Betty A Pace <[email protected]> >> Subject: [PACE] Major Walker and Stephen Pace sell 160 acres to >> Jesse Bryant-deedof 1779 in Halifax Co va- >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 3:23 PM >> I am quoting Gordon W. Pace here: >> >> Stephen Pace married Nancy Ann >> Walker (b. aft 1758) abt. 1777 in Halifax Co, NC. Nancy >> was >> apparently from Halifax Co. as Stephen married her there. >> Nancy Ann had >> two >> brothers named Jacob and Joseph Walker. Nancy's father >> is unknown. >> Stephen's 2nd wife, who he m. in 1799, was the widow of >> one of the >> brothers >> of Nancy Ann, either Jacob or Joseph. A Major Walker (son >> of Henry >> Walker >> and Judith Major of Old Granville (Bute Co.) NC was >> bondsman for the >> marriage >> of Stephen Pace and Lucy Walker. >> >> I am descended from Stephen but from a different mother >> (Indian girl, >> mother of Alsey Pace). >> >> Betty Pace >> >> >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:30:27 -0800 (PST) James Blair >> <[email protected]> writes: >>> Apparently Ann Pace was Stephen Pace's wife and >> Major Walker's >>> daughter, since she relinquished her dower rights in >> the land that >>> was being sold. More than that I do not know. >>> >>> I speculate that because Stephen Pace was evidently in >> the same area >>> as the Tembte/Murden/Webb/Daniel families (in which >> "Henning" occurs >>> as a given name), there could be some connection to >> William Pace of >>> Montgomery Co TN who mentions his son Henning in his >> will written >>> 1829. But that's merely speculation. >>> >>> Sorry not to be able to provide any more information. >>> >>> James >>> >>> >>> --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Lois Long Carey >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Lois Long Carey >> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [PACE] Major Walker and Stephen Pace >> sell 160 acres >>> to Jesse Bryant-deedof 1779 in Halifax Co va- >>>> To: [email protected], [email protected] >>>> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 9:24 AM >>>> Who is this Major Walker and what is the >> relationship( if >>>> any) between him and Stephen and Ann Pace?( also >> mentioned) >>>> >>>> >>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >> * * * * * >>>> * * * >>>> >>>> Please note: My new email address is >> [email protected] >>>> Please remove [email protected] from your address >> books and >>>> files so that we can stay in touch! >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James >> Blair" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:49 PM >>>> Subject: [PACE] The name Henning >>>> >>>> >>>>> This may not be relevant but it seems >> interesting. >>>>> >>>>> While looking for information about Henning >> Pace, I >>>> came across Henning Tembte, who I had not heard >> of before. >>>>> >>>>> I found an article about Dr Henning Tembte >> of >>>> Nansemond Co VA, by Mary Dean Clement, in the >> Virginia Mag. >>>> of History and Biography, Jan 1957. (The writer >> does not >>>> know Tembte's origins but the surname, at >> least, >>>> doesn't seem to be English; >> "Henning" is a >>>> German name, I believe.) >>>>> >>>>> The article describes Tembte's move from >> Maryland >>>> to Nansemond Co. VA, then by 1765 to Halifax Co. >> VA, where >>>> he bought land on Fishing Creek. Tembte's >> daughter >>>> Elizabeth married first Malachi Murden, and then >> Edmond >>>> Daniel. Tembte's daughter Mary married >> Richard Webb >>>> and, yes, named a son Henning. >>>>> >>>>> No reason so far to suppose that >> "Henning >>>> Pace" had anything to do with "Henning >>>> Tembte", but an interesting series of deed >> extracts was >>>> posted to this list by Betty A. Pace on 8 May >> 2001, tracing >>>> land which was sold by Edmond Daniel and >> Elizabeth his wife >>>> (that would be Malachi Murden's widow) to >> John Bradford, >>>> and subsequently tracing this land (I think -- my >> error if >>>> not) through several transactions to the deed of >> 1779 in >>>> which Major Walker and Stephen Pace sell 160 >> acres to Jesse >>>> Bryant -- signed by both Stephen Pace and Ann >> Pace, and Ann >>>> Pace relinquishes dower. >>>>> >>>>> James >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an >> email to >>>> [email protected] with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the >> subject and >>>> the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Right on time. 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Over to you, Val. James --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Bob Pace <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Bob Pace <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PACE] Major Walker and Stephen Pace sell 160 acres to Jesse Bryant-deedof 1779 in Halifax Co va- > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 4:12 PM > What is the difference between a "dower" and > "dowry"? > Bob Pace > > On Jan 13, 2009, at 3:30 PM, James Blair wrote: > > > Then "Major" was his name, not his title. I > wondered about that. > > > > I misinterpreted the 1779 record because (as has now > been explained > > to me) I confused the term "dower" with the > term "dowry". Apologies. > > > > James > > > > > > --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Betty A Pace > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> From: Betty A Pace <[email protected]> > >> Subject: [PACE] Major Walker and Stephen Pace sell > 160 acres to > >> Jesse Bryant-deedof 1779 in Halifax Co va- > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 3:23 PM > >> I am quoting Gordon W. Pace here: > >> > >> Stephen Pace married Nancy Ann > >> Walker (b. aft 1758) abt. 1777 in Halifax Co, NC. > Nancy > >> was > >> apparently from Halifax Co. as Stephen married her > there. > >> Nancy Ann had > >> two > >> brothers named Jacob and Joseph Walker. > Nancy's father > >> is unknown. > >> Stephen's 2nd wife, who he m. in 1799, was the > widow of > >> one of the > >> brothers > >> of Nancy Ann, either Jacob or Joseph. A Major > Walker (son > >> of Henry > >> Walker > >> and Judith Major of Old Granville (Bute Co.) NC > was > >> bondsman for the > >> marriage > >> of Stephen Pace and Lucy Walker. > >> > >> I am descended from Stephen but from a different > mother > >> (Indian girl, > >> mother of Alsey Pace). > >> > >> Betty Pace > >> > >> > >> On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:30:27 -0800 (PST) James > Blair > >> <[email protected]> writes: > >>> Apparently Ann Pace was Stephen Pace's > wife and > >> Major Walker's > >>> daughter, since she relinquished her dower > rights in > >> the land that > >>> was being sold. More than that I do not know. > >>> > >>> I speculate that because Stephen Pace was > evidently in > >> the same area > >>> as the Tembte/Murden/Webb/Daniel families (in > which > >> "Henning" occurs > >>> as a given name), there could be some > connection to > >> William Pace of > >>> Montgomery Co TN who mentions his son Henning > in his > >> will written > >>> 1829. But that's merely speculation. > >>> > >>> Sorry not to be able to provide any more > information. > >>> > >>> James > >>> > >>> > >>> --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Lois Long Carey > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> From: Lois Long Carey > >> <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: Re: [PACE] Major Walker and > Stephen Pace > >> sell 160 acres > >>> to Jesse Bryant-deedof 1779 in Halifax Co va- > >>>> To: [email protected], > [email protected] > >>>> Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 9:24 AM > >>>> Who is this Major Walker and what is the > >> relationship( if > >>>> any) between him and Stephen and Ann > Pace?( also > >> mentioned) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > * * * * > >> * * * * * > >>>> * * * > >>>> > >>>> Please note: My new email address is > >> [email protected] > >>>> Please remove [email protected] from your > address > >> books and > >>>> files so that we can stay in touch! > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: > "James > >> Blair" > >>>> <[email protected]> > >>>> To: <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:49 PM > >>>> Subject: [PACE] The name Henning > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> This may not be relevant but it seems > >> interesting. > >>>>> > >>>>> While looking for information about > Henning > >> Pace, I > >>>> came across Henning Tembte, who I had not > heard > >> of before. > >>>>> > >>>>> I found an article about Dr Henning > Tembte > >> of > >>>> Nansemond Co VA, by Mary Dean Clement, in > the > >> Virginia Mag. > >>>> of History and Biography, Jan 1957. (The > writer > >> does not > >>>> know Tembte's origins but the surname, > at > >> least, > >>>> doesn't seem to be English; > >> "Henning" is a > >>>> German name, I believe.) > >>>>> > >>>>> The article describes Tembte's > move from > >> Maryland > >>>> to Nansemond Co. VA, then by 1765 to > Halifax Co. > >> VA, where > >>>> he bought land on Fishing Creek. > Tembte's > >> daughter > >>>> Elizabeth married first Malachi Murden, > and then > >> Edmond > >>>> Daniel. Tembte's daughter Mary > married > >> Richard Webb > >>>> and, yes, named a son Henning. > >>>>> > >>>>> No reason so far to suppose that > >> "Henning > >>>> Pace" had anything to do with > "Henning > >>>> Tembte", but an interesting series of > deed > >> extracts was > >>>> posted to this list by Betty A. Pace on 8 > May > >> 2001, tracing > >>>> land which was sold by Edmond Daniel and > >> Elizabeth his wife > >>>> (that would be Malachi Murden's widow) > to > >> John Bradford, > >>>> and subsequently tracing this land (I > think -- my > >> error if > >>>> not) through several transactions to the > deed of > >> 1779 in > >>>> which Major Walker and Stephen Pace sell > 160 > >> acres to Jesse > >>>> Bryant -- signed by both Stephen Pace and > Ann > >> Pace, and Ann > >>>> Pace relinquishes dower. > >>>>> > >>>>> James > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------- > >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an > >> email to > >>>> [email protected] with the word > >>>> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the > >> subject and > >>>> the body of the message > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> [email protected] with the word > >> 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >>> > >>> > >> > ____________________________________________________________ > >> Right on time. 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