this came from my family records and also for poythress, there are marriage records. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 > Debbie and others, > > We have to be very careful to distinguish between theory and fact in > citing > these early Pace records. On the Pace Network I have a section called > Problems and Controversies in Pace research, in which several competent > Pace > authorities state that (1) there is absolutely no firm evidence that > Richard > Pace married a Knowles or a Baker, although some genealogies cite one and > some the other. (2) the Pace-Poythress marriage is also quite > questionable. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/poythres.htm#boykin > > The above is a discussion of the Pace-Poythress controversy. > > > This URL discusses the Baker-Knowles controversy: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/bkr_knwl.htm > > If there are no sources verifying an assertion, it cannot be cited as a > fact. > > Roy Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > Of debbie pace > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 8:18 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 > > richard pace iii born about 1663 in charles city , va and john pace born > approx 1669 in charles city, va are the sons of richard pace ii born in > charles city, va who was married to rebecca poythress ( her father was > francis poythress) she was before rebecca cogan does this help any? my > father was samuel pace jr who is the son of samuel m pace Sr who is son > of richard randall pace who is son of dreadzil evans pace and so on > thanks > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Blair" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 10:51 AM > Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 > > > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Rebecca Christensen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> James, >> I sure wish I could give constructive comments. I >> haven't generally researched the Paces this early, so am >> unfamiliar with many of the names of others that you mention >> but wish I was so I could follow where you are leading. > > > It may lead nowhere. I'm just exploring, hoping to glean some clues as to > the parents of John and Richard Pace who sold the land to Goodwyn in 1759. > > It appears to me, though I may be misinterpreting the records, that John > Westhrope patented land near Wards Creek, some of which through various > transactions came to belong to Francis Poythress, and some of which came > to > belong to George Blighton, father of Lydia Blighton Clements. > > George Blighton's share of the land, in the patent of 1686, is described > as > being near "the Southern Run". The land which Richard Pace and John Pace > sold to Goodwyn in 1759 is described as being on the southwest side of the > Southward Run. To me that suggests that the 16 acres being sold by > Richard > Pace and John Pace was near the land of George Blighton (which had > originally been patented by John Westhrope in 1650), and therefore perhaps > also near the land which Francis Poythress took up (which was originally > part of the same John Westhrope patent). > > Therefore I wonder if some of the land which Richard Pace and a later > Francis Poythress sold to a Goodwyn in 1718, might have been part of the > Westhrope land. If so, might this tract of land subsequently have become > called "Goodwins" and been sold to Lydia Blighton Clements in 1733, > together > > with "a second plantation on which Lydia was then living". > > This line of reasoning, if borne out by the land descriptions, might > suggest > > that John and Richard Pace were of the line of George Pace, eldest son of > Richard and Mary. > > On the other hand, one of the witnesses to the sale of the 16 acres to > Goodwyn in 1759 was Laurence Biggins, presumed to be the son of Arthur > Biggins who in 1715 owned land bounding the land of James Pace. This > might > suggest that Richard and John Pace could have been of the line of James > Pace. > > As I say, I'm exploring, rather than drawing any conclusions. > > James > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 1/4/2009 > 4:32 PM > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message