Notes for GEORGE PACE II from Richard Eugene Pace's family tree gedcom: George Pace II is the older brother of John I and Richard III. In the absence of a will, all of Richard's real estate went to the oldest son, George II. We know little of George II's history. In 1699 he was appointed tobacco inspector for the warehouse at Maycox. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Blair" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 Thank you but it wasn't I who identified George as being the probable eldest son of Richard and Mary. It was probably Boddie, or perhaps Jester & Hiden. James --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:43 PM > I wish I could help also. This is exactly the kind of > research needed to > establish a line from the southern Paces to Richard of > Jamestown--so many of > the submitted lineages simply assume it. James, I believe > you have done more > than anyone else on the list to establish a line through > George as the > oldest son of Richard and Mary. I am beginning a quest to > better understand > groups 3a and 3b, which I have mainly just left to the > families to sort out. > I have your email somewhere which established the best > evidence for this > George, and I have to go back and find it and post it > somewhere as our only > documentary evidence even suggesting what the relationship > back to Richard > of Jamestown could be. My compliments, and keep it up. > > Roy Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of James Blair > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard > Pace 1759 > > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Rebecca Christensen > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > James, > > I sure wish I could give constructive comments. I > > haven't generally researched the Paces this early, > so am > > unfamiliar with many of the names of others that you > mention > > but wish I was so I could follow where you are > leading. > > > It may lead nowhere. I'm just exploring, hoping to > glean some clues as to > the parents of John and Richard Pace who sold the land to > Goodwyn in 1759. > > It appears to me, though I may be misinterpreting the > records, that John > Westhrope patented land near Wards Creek, some of which > through various > transactions came to belong to Francis Poythress, and some > of which came to > belong to George Blighton, father of Lydia Blighton > Clements. > > George Blighton's share of the land, in the patent of > 1686, is described as > being near "the Southern Run". The land which > Richard Pace and John Pace > sold to Goodwyn in 1759 is described as being on the > southwest side of the > Southward Run. To me that suggests that the 16 acres being > sold by Richard > Pace and John Pace was near the land of George Blighton > (which had > originally been patented by John Westhrope in 1650), and > therefore perhaps > also near the land which Francis Poythress took up (which > was originally > part of the same John Westhrope patent). > > Therefore I wonder if some of the land which Richard Pace > and a later > Francis Poythress sold to a Goodwyn in 1718, might have > been part of the > Westhrope land. If so, might this tract of land > subsequently have become > called "Goodwins" and been sold to Lydia Blighton > Clements in 1733, together > with "a second plantation on which Lydia was then > living". > > This line of reasoning, if borne out by the land > descriptions, might suggest > that John and Richard Pace were of the line of George Pace, > eldest son of > Richard and Mary. > > On the other hand, one of the witnesses to the sale of the > 16 acres to > Goodwyn in 1759 was Laurence Biggins, presumed to be the > son of Arthur > Biggins who in 1715 owned land bounding the land of James > Pace. This might > suggest that Richard and John Pace could have been of the > line of James > Pace. > > As I say, I'm exploring, rather than drawing any > conclusions. > > James > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release > Date: 1/4/2009 > 4:32 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I question whether there is any documentary evidence for "Richard III' and John being siblings of George. The only documentation I know is the Winifred Aycock Lane letter, which is not primary evidence and doesn't identify which of the three Richard Paces in Virginia at that time was her ancestor. There is much that go into many gedcoms that is not based on documentation. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ricky Pace Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 7:09 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 Notes for GEORGE PACE II from Richard Eugene Pace's family tree gedcom: George Pace II is the older brother of John I and Richard III. In the absence of a will, all of Richard's real estate went to the oldest son, George II. We know little of George II's history. In 1699 he was appointed tobacco inspector for the warehouse at Maycox. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Blair" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; "Roy Johnson" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 Thank you but it wasn't I who identified George as being the probable eldest son of Richard and Mary. It was probably Boddie, or perhaps Jester & Hiden. James --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Roy Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Roy Johnson <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard Pace 1759 > To: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 6:43 PM > I wish I could help also. This is exactly the kind of > research needed to > establish a line from the southern Paces to Richard of > Jamestown--so many of > the submitted lineages simply assume it. James, I believe > you have done more > than anyone else on the list to establish a line through > George as the > oldest son of Richard and Mary. I am beginning a quest to > better understand > groups 3a and 3b, which I have mainly just left to the > families to sort out. > I have your email somewhere which established the best > evidence for this > George, and I have to go back and find it and post it > somewhere as our only > documentary evidence even suggesting what the relationship > back to Richard > of Jamestown could be. My compliments, and keep it up. > > Roy Johnson > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of James Blair > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 12:52 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PACE] The PG land sold by John and Richard > Pace 1759 > > > --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Rebecca Christensen > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > James, > > I sure wish I could give constructive comments. I > > haven't generally researched the Paces this early, > so am > > unfamiliar with many of the names of others that you > mention > > but wish I was so I could follow where you are > leading. > > > It may lead nowhere. I'm just exploring, hoping to > glean some clues as to > the parents of John and Richard Pace who sold the land to > Goodwyn in 1759. > > It appears to me, though I may be misinterpreting the > records, that John > Westhrope patented land near Wards Creek, some of which > through various > transactions came to belong to Francis Poythress, and some > of which came to > belong to George Blighton, father of Lydia Blighton > Clements. > > George Blighton's share of the land, in the patent of > 1686, is described as > being near "the Southern Run". The land which > Richard Pace and John Pace > sold to Goodwyn in 1759 is described as being on the > southwest side of the > Southward Run. To me that suggests that the 16 acres being > sold by Richard > Pace and John Pace was near the land of George Blighton > (which had > originally been patented by John Westhrope in 1650), and > therefore perhaps > also near the land which Francis Poythress took up (which > was originally > part of the same John Westhrope patent). > > Therefore I wonder if some of the land which Richard Pace > and a later > Francis Poythress sold to a Goodwyn in 1718, might have > been part of the > Westhrope land. If so, might this tract of land > subsequently have become > called "Goodwins" and been sold to Lydia Blighton > Clements in 1733, together > with "a second plantation on which Lydia was then > living". > > This line of reasoning, if borne out by the land > descriptions, might suggest > that John and Richard Pace were of the line of George Pace, > eldest son of > Richard and Mary. > > On the other hand, one of the witnesses to the sale of the > 16 acres to > Goodwyn in 1759 was Laurence Biggins, presumed to be the > son of Arthur > Biggins who in 1715 owned land bounding the land of James > Pace. This might > suggest that Richard and John Pace could have been of the > line of James > Pace. > > As I say, I'm exploring, rather than drawing any > conclusions. > > James > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release > Date: 1/4/2009 > 4:32 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.2/1874 - Release Date: 1/4/2009 4:32 PM