I haven't studied Columbus very thoroughly. It's possible. But I'm not sure what that would have to do with DNA. Also, we are now drifting off topic and I didn't intend to do that. I was only mentioning him to illustrate the use of DNA to trace ancestry. If human bones are ever found at Pace sites, it could be useful as technology improves. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of donebest@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:13 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Archaeolgical digs at George Pace property Roy. Somewhere I read that Columbus fought in that last battle against the Moors, when Ferdinan and Isabella and others went out, having a picnic, as they waited for the fort to fall. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [PACE] Archaeolgical digs at George Pace property A little googling produces the result that yes, they can extract Y chromosome DNA from bones, but this DNA deteriorates more rapidly than other types and is harder to get pure samples. There is a controversy over whether Columbus was actually born in Genoa, as the books say, or whether he may have been born in northern Spain. They are trying to get Y chromosome DNA to find out, but one difficulty is making sure they have his bones and not someone else's, and secondly, the problem of deterioration. That's where I found a lot of information on how they do it. Here is the site: http://www.christopher-columbus.eu/dna-tests.htm And here is a quote: DNA from y-chromosomes is much more scarce than the mitochondrial kind and deteriorates more rapidly. The team is using Hernando's because that of his alleged father is in bad shape. Lorente and company want to see if the DNA pattern in Columbus' y-chromosome still shows up in men in either Catalonia or Italy, Here is a site that explains how it is done: http://www.dczogbi.com/dna.html Yes, it would be interesting to see some DNA from bones at that site, but I have no idea how we would get the results to transfer over and compare with out Pace DNA. There would of course be no way to tell initially if the bones were Pace bones but if there was a match with our I results, that would tell us. It's fascinating to think about but I have serious doubts whether it will transpire or how we or FTDNA could get the results. The archaeologists would need some reason of their own to extract the DNA--they wouldn't do it just to see if they are Pace bones--and I don't know what that would be. It sounds like a fairly expensive process. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fpg0663@wmconnect.com Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:06 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Archaeolgical digs at George Pace property Roy, can they not do DNA on bones? I didn't know if they could or not. Addie</HTML> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You were trying to determine the birthplace of Columbus. I thought the fact that he was fighting in the Spanish army might have some bearing. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 10:39 pm Subject: Re: [PACE] Archaeolgical digs at George Pace property I haven't studied Columbus very thoroughly. It's possible. But I'm not sure what that would have to do with DNA. Also, we are now drifting off topic and I didn't intend to do that. I was only mentioning him to illustrate the use of DNA to trace ancestry. If human bones are ever found at Pace sites, it could be useful as technology improves. Roy -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of donebest@aol.com Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:13 PM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Archaeolgical digs at George Pace property Roy. Somewhere I read that Columbus fought in that last battle against the Moors, when Ferdinan and Isabella and others went out, having a picnic, as they waited for the fort to fall. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: Roy Johnson <royj@webster.edu> To: pace@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, Mar 20, 2010 12:21 pm Subject: Re: [PACE] Archaeolgical digs at George Pace property A little googling produces the result that yes, they can extract Y chromosome DNA from bones, but this DNA deteriorates more rapidly than other types and is harder to get pure samples. There is a controversy over whether Columbus was actually born in Genoa, as the books say, or whether he may have been born in northern Spain. They are trying to get Y chromosome DNA to find out, but one difficulty is making sure they have his bones and not someone else's, and secondly, the problem of deterioration. That's where I found a lot of information on how they do it. Here is the site: http://www.christopher-columbus.eu/dna-tests.htm And here is a quote: DNA from y-chromosomes is much more scarce than the mitochondrial kind and deteriorates more rapidly. The team is using Hernando's because that of his alleged father is in bad shape. Lorente and company want to see if the DNA pattern in Columbus' y-chromosome still shows up in men in either Catalonia or Italy, Here is a site that explains how it is done: http://www.dczogbi.com/dna.html Yes, it would be interesting to see some DNA from bones at that site, but I have no idea how we would get the results to transfer over and compare with out Pace DNA. There would of course be no way to tell initially if the bones were Pace bones but if there was a match with our I results, that would tell us. It's fascinating to think about but I have serious doubts whether it will transpire or how we or FTDNA could get the results. The archaeologists would need some reason of their own to extract the DNA--they wouldn't do it just to see if they are Pace bones--and I don't know what that would be. It sounds like a fairly expensive process. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Fpg0663@wmconnect.com Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 10:06 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] Archaeolgical digs at George Pace property Roy, can they not do DNA on bones? I didn't know if they could or not. Addie</HTML> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message