Pace is also Italian, where the Pace surname apparently originated independently of the English Pace surname. It is pronounced Pah-chee in Italian. I have a picture from the Leaning Tower of the name "Pace" in white letters on a distant hillside. It means "peace" in Italian as it did in Latin so the inscription on the hillside was a call for peace, not the surname. There was a speculative hint that I came across once that MIGHT link the two surnames. An Italian correspondent felt that the surname originated in the Norman-ruled parts of Italy, and we know that the Normans conquered England in 1066. An article in a Pace bulletin cited a document found at York Minster in Yorkshire stating that the Pace name came over with the Normans, However, I believe the Pace surname in the Midlands did not have Norman origins. These are just impressions that I formed and totally speculative. The Pace Network has an article on the Pace name, which needs updating as Gordon had not fully traced his ancestry at that time. The article says, among other things: "This distinguished Norman family originated with the Sire of Pace in Pacy Su Eure at Evreux in Normandy." That town does exist, but later research shows that this article originated from an outfit called the "House of Names" which has been noted for sloppy research, and no source evidence was shown for the above conclusion and others. Several factual errors were clear in the document. To read the Pace Network page on this, go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pace/ and scroll down and click on "The Ancient History of the Distinguished Surname Pace" Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Keith Lester Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 7:58 AM To: gtp3066@nexicom.net; pace@rootsweb.com Cc: 'Clarinda Pace'; 'Julian Pace'; 'Tanya Pace-Crosschild'; 'Dianne Wiltshire'; mnholding@shaw.ca; 'Robyn Pace'; 'Tom Pace'; 'Pat Anderson'; 'Lionel Young'; 'Darrell Pace'; 'Franne'; 'marj charman'; 'A.L. Dodsworth'; 'Ellen Cadman'; 'Al Pace'; 'Kate Cole'; 'Betty A Pace' Subject: Re: [PACE] Easter and Pace Eggs Thanks Gord for all your emails. I realised a long time ago that the latin 'pace' means 'peace'. I suppose it is quite an honour to belong to a family of peace in this turbulent world. A lot to live up to! Keith -----Original Message----- From: gtp3066@nexicom.net [mailto:gtp3066@nexicom.net] Sent: 04 April 2010 19:01 To: pace@rootsweb.com Cc: A.L. Dodsworth; Franne; Keith Lester; Dianne Wiltshire; mnholding@shaw.ca; Al Pace; Robyn Pace; Betty A Pace; Clarinda Pace; Tanya Pace-Crosschild; Tom Pace; Pat Anderson; Darrell Pace; Antony Pace; Julian Pace; Ellen Cadman; marj charman; Kate Cole; Lionel Young Subject: Easter and Pace Eggs "Getting on the Band Wagon" in the UK Pace Egging: A Lancashire Tradition by John Ravenscroft http://www.timetravel-britain.com/columns/traditions/traditions02.shtml When I first heard the term Pace Egging I thought it probably had something to do with drunken villagers rolling eggs down steep English hillsides -- we Brits do things like that with all kinds of items, including cheeses, barrels of beer and significant others -- but I was wrong. Apparently the word "Pace" is nothing to do with the relative speeds of competitive egg-rollers. The truth is far more mundane. "Pace" comes from the Latin "Pacha" which means Easter, and Pace Egging is just one more of our many and varied Easter Traditions. Pace Egging Today Pace Egging Although it was noted as early as 1842 that the Pace Egging Play was being performed less and less frequently, the revival of interest in English folk customs after the Second World War helped to rekindle enthusiasm. http://www.folkplay.info/Gallery/Bury2002.htm Bury Pace Eggers outside the Victoria Hotel, Walshaw Bury Pace Eggers' collector in traditional Costume, Easter 2002 (Photo: Catherine Pearce) - I wonder - the DNA of males in her family. Bury Pace Eggers circle round as they sing their song, Ramsbottom Market, 23rd March 2002 (Photo: Francis Roe) Pace Eggers, Easter 2002 - Heptonstall, West Yorkshire http://www.folkplay.info/Gallery/Heptonstall2002.htm "The Fight - another fight - Singing to the Crowd" http://www.folkplay.info/Gallery/Midgley2002.htm Pace Eggers, Easter 2002 - Midgley, West Yorkshire Boys from Calder Valley High School perform the Midgley Pace Egg Play at Weavers Square, Heptonstall, Good Friday 2002 Midgley Pace Eggers 1932. http://www.folkplay.info/Forum/TD_Forum_11_Midgley.htm ABOUT THE PLAY - Eddie Cass One thing which was said stuck in my mind. St George, who was 10 at the time, still recalled after all these years, his feeling that he was the Christian hero defending Christendom from the infidel Turks. The infidel Turks, Slasher, Black Prince of Paradine, Hector were all of 12! What he couldn't tell me was the source of that feeling, who suggested that the play had an origin in the Crusades. That idea was certainly part of the theoretical views expressed on the play by Frank Marsden. Eddie Cass ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message