There is a Frederick Pace listed in the 1800 Chesterfield SC census along with John and William Pace. When this was discussed earlier, I believe that the consensus was that this Frederick was too young to be the father of John and William. If someone has time, you might want to check this out to see if I am remembering correctly. Kim, I suspect that your Frederick in 1803 may be the same one in the 1800 census. That is, a contemporary of John and William rather than their father. I don't know what to make of this Frederick Pace. Due to name and location, one suspects that he is of our line and had been forgotten when Dr. J.M. Pace came to write his autobiographical sketch. If a male line from the Frederick in the 1800 census survives, perhaps a DNA sample will show up one day that might resolve the question. Joe Anderson > From: mnixon1@centurytel.net > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:44:06 -0600 > Subject: Re: [PACE] FYI: Frederick Pace - Chesterfield County, South Carolina 1803 > > Kim, we are very proud of you for your diligence in researching our line. > Can't wait to read your book when it is finished!!! > > Miriam Nixon > > -----Original Message----- > From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Robert Webb > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:12 PM > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PACE] FYI: Frederick Pace - Chesterfield County, South > Carolina 1803 > > Outstanding find, Kim. > > On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Kim Stracener Zapalac wrote: > > > This may be the first mention of the progenitor, Frederick Pace of > > Wales. > > For those who also have Frederick Paces in this time period, please > > do not > > rule out the possibility that the person mentioned in the newspaper > > article > > is not yours. However, I am basing this person on supposed son and > > daughter-in-law's, William and Drucilla Pace, residence in > > Chesterfield > > County, SC, on the 1800 census. William's own son, Frederick Pace is > > too > > young to be this man. Please feel free to make any comments. > > > > > > > > Val, please add this to the Pace Society files. > > > > > > > > Source: South Carolina State Gazette, dated September 16, 1803, Page 1 > > > > Repository: www. genealogybank.com > > > > Transcribed by Kim Stracener Zapalac > > > > > > > > "State of South-Carolina, Chesterfield district ss. [ss? - anyone > > know what > > this abbreviation stands for?] > > > > > > > > At a court of General Sessions and Common Pleas, begun and holden for > > Chesterfield district, at Chesterfield court-house, on the fourth > > Monday in > > March, 1803, John Evans and Joel Norris, were duly returned summoned > > to > > appear and serve as Grand Ju-rors; and Isaac Course, Joseph J. > > Handcock, > > Christopher Vernon, Frederick Pace, Philip Hurst, Josiah Middleton, > > John > > Nicholson, German Berry, Nicholas Copeland and Hugh Blackeney, were > > duly > > returned summoned to appear and serve as petit and common plea > > jurors, who > > severally made default, and were noted for non-appearance. > > > > > > > > Notice is hereby given, that unless the afore-said jurors shall shew > > [yes, > > this was the way it was spelled] good and sufficient cause of > > excuse, upon > > oath, to any of the Associate Judges of the said state, at the next > > sitting > > of the said court, on the fourth Monday in Octo-ber next, that they > > will > > severally and respect-ively be fined agreeably to law. > > > > > > > > By the Court, > > > > ALEXANDER CRAIG, Clerk, > > > > Clerk's Office, 4th April, 1803." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.139/2620 - Release Date: 01/17/10 > 07:35:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/

This is not my line but I have been fascinated by it. This Pace could be the father of William and Dempsey; run the math back: The biography of Dr. JM Pace says Frederick came to the US in 1768 when William was 11. Thus William was born about 1757, conceived about 1756. Assume Frederick was at least 21 when William was conceived means Frederick was probably worn ca 1735 or before. That would make him 65 or older in 1800, 68 or older in 1803. You could even add a few years and he could well be alive in that era and be the father of William, Dempsey, etc. Contemporary yes--but maybe contemporary to his own sons? Just speculating. Roy Johnson -----Original Message----- From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janders 45 Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:09 AM To: pace@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [PACE] FYI: Frederick Pace - Chesterfield County, South Carolina 1803 There is a Frederick Pace listed in the 1800 Chesterfield SC census along with John and William Pace. When this was discussed earlier, I believe that the consensus was that this Frederick was too young to be the father of John and William. If someone has time, you might want to check this out to see if I am remembering correctly. Kim, I suspect that your Frederick in 1803 may be the same one in the 1800 census. That is, a contemporary of John and William rather than their father. I don't know what to make of this Frederick Pace. Due to name and location, one suspects that he is of our line and had been forgotten when Dr. J.M. Pace came to write his autobiographical sketch. If a male line from the Frederick in the 1800 census survives, perhaps a DNA sample will show up one day that might resolve the question. Joe Anderson > From: mnixon1@centurytel.net > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:44:06 -0600 > Subject: Re: [PACE] FYI: Frederick Pace - Chesterfield County, South Carolina 1803 > > Kim, we are very proud of you for your diligence in researching our line. > Can't wait to read your book when it is finished!!! > > Miriam Nixon > > -----Original Message----- > From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > Of Robert Webb > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:12 PM > To: pace@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [PACE] FYI: Frederick Pace - Chesterfield County, South > Carolina 1803 > > Outstanding find, Kim. > > On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Kim Stracener Zapalac wrote: > > > This may be the first mention of the progenitor, Frederick Pace of > > Wales. > > For those who also have Frederick Paces in this time period, please > > do not > > rule out the possibility that the person mentioned in the newspaper > > article > > is not yours. However, I am basing this person on supposed son and > > daughter-in-law's, William and Drucilla Pace, residence in > > Chesterfield > > County, SC, on the 1800 census. William's own son, Frederick Pace is > > too > > young to be this man. Please feel free to make any comments. > > > > > > > > Val, please add this to the Pace Society files. > > > > > > > > Source: South Carolina State Gazette, dated September 16, 1803, Page 1 > > > > Repository: www. genealogybank.com > > > > Transcribed by Kim Stracener Zapalac > > > > > > > > "State of South-Carolina, Chesterfield district ss. [ss? - anyone > > know what > > this abbreviation stands for?] > > > > > > > > At a court of General Sessions and Common Pleas, begun and holden for > > Chesterfield district, at Chesterfield court-house, on the fourth > > Monday in > > March, 1803, John Evans and Joel Norris, were duly returned summoned > > to > > appear and serve as Grand Ju-rors; and Isaac Course, Joseph J. > > Handcock, > > Christopher Vernon, Frederick Pace, Philip Hurst, Josiah Middleton, > > John > > Nicholson, German Berry, Nicholas Copeland and Hugh Blackeney, were > > duly > > returned summoned to appear and serve as petit and common plea > > jurors, who > > severally made default, and were noted for non-appearance. > > > > > > > > Notice is hereby given, that unless the afore-said jurors shall shew > > [yes, > > this was the way it was spelled] good and sufficient cause of > > excuse, upon > > oath, to any of the Associate Judges of the said state, at the next > > sitting > > of the said court, on the fourth Monday in Octo-ber next, that they > > will > > severally and respect-ively be fined agreeably to law. > > > > > > > > By the Court, > > > > ALEXANDER CRAIG, Clerk, > > > > Clerk's Office, 4th April, 1803." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.139/2620 - Release Date: 01/17/10 > 07:35:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Still at my Mom's helping her after her surgery, so I have limited abilities to get on the Internet or do research. . . Joe, thanks for mentioning that this Frederick may be the same one as the one on the 1800 census. I forgot to do so. You are absolutely right. That is why I said "may" be, because we don't know if the census enumerator possibly made a mistake while he was ticking off the age category, or if he is not of the FPW group, or whether Frederick the progenitor was actually living in Chesterfield County in 1800 or 1803. All we have to go on at the moment is the Dr. Pace autobiography for this family line, family traditions, and DNA samples. That is also why I said for the people who have other lines to not rule out that this Frederick may be theirs. In 1810, this Frederick (based on his age on the 1800 census) seems to have disappeared or died. As always, this is just another clue for us to follow and I will keep looking for more as sources come available. By the way, I have not had a chance to follow up with legal research on how old someone must be to serve on a petit juror in South Carolina back then, but I seemed to remember they had to be at least between 21 and 65? And, a land owner too? Does anyone have the right answer? Kim On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Janders 45 wrote: > > There is a Frederick Pace listed in the 1800 Chesterfield SC census along with John and William Pace. When this was discussed earlier, I believe that the consensus was that this Frederick was too young to be the father of John and William. If someone has time, you might want to check this out to see if I am remembering correctly. > > > > Kim, I suspect that your Frederick in 1803 may be the same one in the 1800 census. That is, a contemporary of John and William rather than their father. I don't know what to make of this Frederick Pace. Due to name and location, one suspects that he is of our line and had been forgotten when Dr. J.M. Pace came to write his autobiographical sketch. If a male line from the Frederick in the 1800 census survives, perhaps a DNA sample will show up one day that might resolve the question. > > > > Joe Anderson > >> From: mnixon1@centurytel.net >> To: pace@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:44:06 -0600 >> Subject: Re: [PACE] FYI: Frederick Pace - Chesterfield County, South Carolina 1803 >> >> Kim, we are very proud of you for your diligence in researching our line. >> Can't wait to read your book when it is finished!!! >> >> Miriam Nixon >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pace-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:pace-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of Robert Webb >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 8:12 PM >> To: pace@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [PACE] FYI: Frederick Pace - Chesterfield County, South >> Carolina 1803 >> >> Outstanding find, Kim. >> >> On Jan 17, 2010, at 1:14 PM, Kim Stracener Zapalac wrote: >> >>> This may be the first mention of the progenitor, Frederick Pace of >>> Wales. >>> For those who also have Frederick Paces in this time period, please >>> do not >>> rule out the possibility that the person mentioned in the newspaper >>> article >>> is not yours. However, I am basing this person on supposed son and >>> daughter-in-law's, William and Drucilla Pace, residence in >>> Chesterfield >>> County, SC, on the 1800 census. William's own son, Frederick Pace is >>> too >>> young to be this man. Please feel free to make any comments. >>> >>> >>> >>> Val, please add this to the Pace Society files. >>> >>> >>> >>> Source: South Carolina State Gazette, dated September 16, 1803, Page 1 >>> >>> Repository: www. genealogybank.com >>> >>> Transcribed by Kim Stracener Zapalac >>> >>> >>> >>> "State of South-Carolina, Chesterfield district ss. [ss? - anyone >>> know what >>> this abbreviation stands for?] >>> >>> >>> >>> At a court of General Sessions and Common Pleas, begun and holden for >>> Chesterfield district, at Chesterfield court-house, on the fourth >>> Monday in >>> March, 1803, John Evans and Joel Norris, were duly returned summoned >>> to >>> appear and serve as Grand Ju-rors; and Isaac Course, Joseph J. >>> Handcock, >>> Christopher Vernon, Frederick Pace, Philip Hurst, Josiah Middleton, >>> John >>> Nicholson, German Berry, Nicholas Copeland and Hugh Blackeney, were >>> duly >>> returned summoned to appear and serve as petit and common plea >>> jurors, who >>> severally made default, and were noted for non-appearance. >>> >>> >>> >>> Notice is hereby given, that unless the afore-said jurors shall shew >>> [yes, >>> this was the way it was spelled] good and sufficient cause of >>> excuse, upon >>> oath, to any of the Associate Judges of the said state, at the next >>> sitting >>> of the said court, on the fourth Monday in Octo-ber next, that they >>> will >>> severally and respect-ively be fined agreeably to law. >>> >>> >>> >>> By the Court, >>> >>> ALEXANDER CRAIG, Clerk, >>> >>> Clerk's Office, 4th April, 1803." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACE-request@rootsweb.com >>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>> the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.139/2620 - Release Date: 01/17/10 >> 07:35:00 >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390707/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to PACE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message